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Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

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Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby Murax » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:38 pm

You'd have 2 states led by Daroods. 2 States led by Hawiyes. 1 State led by D&M.

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Re: Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby thegoodshepherd » Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:39 pm

I don't understand how south mudug will be a gobol. Is it not unconstitutional??

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Re: Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby flyWOODY » Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:45 pm

I don't understand how south mudug will be a gobol. Is it not unconstitutional??
Miskeen wallahi u think hawiye goes by the constitution in their own kingdom u think darod can dictate hawiye some ppl r so deluded kkkkkkkkkkkkkk u think ucan beat hawiye? Y did u fool urself to begin with? Miskeen

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Re: Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby thegoodshepherd » Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:51 pm

Ironic, because Hawiye is the only somali clan to be colonized by another somali clan
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Re: Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby Ron » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:28 am

Dictator Kacankii made these 18 gobols of Somalia and the SFG may amend them in order to modernise the modern politics of Somalia, so, south Mudug may be added to Galgaduud as one gobol.

Hiiran, Shabele and Galgaduud may then become a Federal State. It is up to the people of those regions to decide and all open for further discussions.

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Re: Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby Marques » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:45 am

Dictator Kacankii made these 18 gobols of Somalia and the SFG may amend them in order to modernise the modern politics of Somalia, so, south Mudug may be added to Galgaduud as one gobol.

Hiiran, Shabele and Galgaduud may then become a Federal State. It is up to the people of those regions to decide and all open for further discussions.
You see this is where everything goes wrong. You say amendment, but where can the line be drawn for this? If a former region can be cut in half and swapped, other regions like Hiraan can claim to be two regions due to historic clan differences, same with many other regions.

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Re: Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby thegoodshepherd » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:00 am

You see this is where everything goes wrong. You say amendment, but where can the line be drawn for this? If a former region can be cut in half and swapped, other regions like Hiraan can claim to be two regions due to historic clan differences, same with many other regions.
But the Italians already made a green line in Mudug even during the colonial period.
Everything north of the green line was a protectorate, everything south a colony.
So there actually is a historic precedent for seperating Mudug.

Hiraan on the other hand has always been a gobol, it is the last of the original gobols of 1960, it was never divided but always united.

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Re: Hiiraan, M Shabelle The Final Federal State?

Postby Marques » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:08 am

You see this is where everything goes wrong. You say amendment, but where can the line be drawn for this? If a former region can be cut in half and swapped, other regions like Hiraan can claim to be two regions due to historic clan differences, same with many other regions.
But the Italians already made a green line in Mudug even during the colonial period.
Everything north of the green line was a protectorate, everything south a colony.
So there actually is a historic precedent for seperating Mudug.

Hiraan on the other hand has always been a gobol, it is the last of the original gobols of 1960, it was never divided but always united.
Well then you are contradicting your initial arguement, you claim South Mudug is unconstitutional, but here you are justifying that it is a special case.


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