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Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for darod

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:43 pm

Not really i am merely discussing the whole mudug dispute from another perspective wardheernews poster Geeldoon clearly agrees with me.

Arguments guys not qabiil cay iyo waxyaalo la mid ah

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby thegoodshepherd » Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:43 pm

Khalid it wouldn't work.
Here is why:
If MJ and Merehan Join this new mamul, they will make up 35% of the population of this new mamul.
Add in leelkase and that is 40% of the population of the new mamul being Darood :lol:
If there are elections Hawiye won't stand a chance, because MJ and Merehan can truck in voters from Shilabo and Wardheer. Think about it, Darood would then have three federal states instead of two, and Hawiye would only have one.
Hawiye, in a few years would lose political control of the new federal state.
They will never accept this, leading to another war in the central regions.
You should always look at state formation from a long term perspective.
it is better if we keep things as they are :up:

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:13 pm

Thegoodsphered xisaabta ka khaldan if Darood of Mudug join galguduud as u say they will be around 40% sax
Now Puntland still exsists bari and nugaal puntland state , and gedo two jubbas jubbaland . 2 states darood have exclusively. And one they have a big share in central state. with Hawiye means darood have 2 and a half state. if we follow geeldoon strategy ,, he even said that to create another federal state sool and sanaag darood sharing a state with isaaq Means darood share 2 states with isaaq and hawiye and have 2 exclusive states. Geeldoon strategy

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby Marques » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:01 pm

Khalid, horaa loo yiri 'kuwii xaqdaro ku heshiiya, xaqa bay ku diriraan'...nimankii federalismka Naga dayn waayay maantay cabaad leeyihiin...I've said it before, federalism has been exposed and its propagators casted out in the open for being sick tribalists who want to start a new cycle of clan warfare in modern day Somalia.

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby STARKAST » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:14 am

^ Says the 1 xafaad hargeisa boy. Tribalism, 1 clan state called SL, that has created new regions out of the air and your talking bout federalism ? Also Modern warfare ? futile witch-hunt in sax dheer last week propagated by your uncles ?

What ever empowers reer north mudug will happen, no point talking about stuff that won't happen. Khalid focus on Gabiley then hargeisa maybe, everywhere else on the Somali peninsula is not your concern, nor what you dream about matters.

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby Khalid Ali » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:58 pm

Somaliland is not one clan it allows all clan to be represented , but this topic is not about Somaliland lets focus on Mudug shall we. Starkast i thought u were a unionist a pan Somaliweynist , why are you excluding me from talking about Mudug. U cant say i am opposed to Somaliland as a separate state and at the same reject a Somali man from Somaliland to share some thoughts about Mudug. :lol:

Our darood friends marka la qabto bay ku washaan blease oo blease na dayaaaa :D :up:

Marques i know Mudug dispute has exposed the tribal federalists

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby theyuusuf143 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:22 pm

pintland policy is the worst in the horn. its pure darodism. for example they want clan based borders . but when it comes jubaland they dont support clan based borders. the reality is if they reject all mudug to join the central state then hawiye and raxanwwyn will do the same in jubaland.

pintland must give up mudug. if they dont hawiye (sheekhal and habrgidir) will never accept to be part of jubaland, same goes to shabeele both habargidir and biyo maal will not accept to join the raxanweyn dominated southwest state. federalim is cool but pintland style clan based federalism is a desease not development.

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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby thegoodshepherd » Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:57 pm

habrgidir will never accept to be part of jubaland
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Re: Mudug entirely Joining central state is not to bad for d

Postby theyuusuf143 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:50 pm

:lol: waxa miyaan kala aqaan baad moodaysaa. habargidir kuma jirto miyaa hawiyaha jubaland. BTW mooryaantu waa muruqa hawiye hadegaan ama yeysan degin yagaa u xilsaaran ilaalinta dhulka hawiye iyo boobka dhulka cusub ! dhabayaco horta idinku waxaan mashxarad ahayn makutartaan cagdheerta. maalin dhow marka keenyaatigu baxay kala cadaan doontaa cida meesha xoog kuleh. amiir godane laftiisu meel aan kismaayo ahayn ku qanci maayo, xanuunka barre hiiraale ku dhacaa amiirkana ku dhacay :lol:


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