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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Chinaman » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:32 pm

No, I don't know if some Marehan lived there, but I trace my lineage to Caabudwaaq, then Wardheer and Walwal, do you trace your lineage to Eyl ?

Without getting emotional, it is true we share a region with Hawiye called Galgaduud, however you share a town, and now Hawiye want to form a real federal state, there is nothing wrong with that, don't hate the player, hate the game.
And I'm guessing Majerteens dropped from the sky and forced the Hutus down south too Kkkkk

Adali the Stockholm syndrome sufferer, Hutus know me and know not to test me, Galkacyo is a PL town, controlled fully by PL with the exception of the ghetto called Bar-xaarley. Hutus from Afgooye to Bar-xaarley see me as a real problem, a real threat, they know what I am and what I am capable of. You on the other hand come from a folk so abused by Hutus, they've fully accepted being subservient to them. A whole clan whose people suffer from Stockholm's syndrome, how fucked up is that? Kkkkkk

Anyway, my message to the Hutus is you claim what you want, come & try to get even an inch of Pl if you folks are man enough, before you dare to try that, you can claim all the way to Saylac for all I care..
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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Adali » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:32 pm

Let's not derail this thread ladyboy Skywalker aka General SNM.
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Shots have been fired, we can confirm one casualty.

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Xamud. » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:33 pm



:lol: :lol: :lol:


war amuu ku jeclaaday lolThat is some gay stuff bro. watch your back

:lol: mindha meesha wuxu mooday eharmony, I have no idea why he is so upset with me, I have not been on this forum in ages, perhaps wuxuu ka xanaqay maxad ii salamii weyday :lol:

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:35 pm

No, I don't know if some Marehan lived there, but I trace my lineage to Caabudwaaq, then Wardheer and Walwal, do you trace your lineage to Eyl ?

Without getting emotional, it is true we share a region with Hawiye called Galgaduud, however you share a town, and now Hawiye want to form a real federal state, there is nothing wrong with that, don't hate the player, hate the game.
And I'm guessing Majerteens dropped from the sky and forced the Hutus down south too Kkkkk

Adali the Stockholm syndrome sufferer, Hutus know me and know not to test me, Galkacyo is a PL town, controlled fully by PL with the exception of the ghetto called Bar-xaarley. Hutus from Afgooye to Bar-xaarley see me as a real problem, a real threat, they know what I am and what I am capable of. You on the other hand come from a folk so abused by Hutus, they've fully accepted being subservient to them. A whole clan whose people suffer from Stockholm's syndrome, how fucked up is that? Kkkkkk

Anyway, my message to the Hutus is we can all claim all we want, come & try to get even an inch of Pl if you folks are man enough, before you dare to try that, you can claim all the way to Saylac for all I care..

stop wearing dhirac and military uniform together :lol:

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Adali » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:44 pm

No, I don't know if some Marehan lived there, but I trace my lineage to Caabudwaaq, then Wardheer and Walwal, do you trace your lineage to Eyl ?

Without getting emotional, it is true we share a region with Hawiye called Galgaduud, however you share a town, and now Hawiye want to form a real federal state, there is nothing wrong with that, don't hate the player, hate the game.
And I'm guessing Majerteens dropped from the sky and forced the Hutus down south too Kkkkk

Adali the Stockholm syndrome sufferer, Hutus know me and know not to test me, Galkacyo is a PL town, controlled fully by PL with the exception of the ghetto called Bar-xaarley. Hutus from Afgooye to Bar-xaarley see me as a real problem, a real threat, they know what I am and what I am capable of. You on the other hand come from a folk so abused by Hutus, they've fully accepted being subservient to them. A whole clan whose people suffer from Stockholm's syndrome, how fucked up is that? Kkkkkk

Anyway, my message to the Hutus is we can all claim all we want, come & try to get even an inch of Pl if you folks are man enough, before you dare to try that, you can claim all the way to Saylac for all I care..
May the best man win, I don't see the need to support anyone, HG vs MJ is fair fight, you're same age.

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Adali » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:49 pm



:lol: mindha meesha wuxu mooday eharmony, I have no idea why he is so upset with me, I have not been on this forum in ages, perhaps wuxuu ka xanaqay maxad ii salamii weyday :lol:
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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby 1moonlight » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:06 pm

In this interview with radio mogadishu, abdi qaybdiid and qoorleex the presidents of galmudug and ximanxeeb are confirming being about the whole mudug and that it depends on the clans who want to be part of it or not hence they welcomed some of the northern mudug clans who are partaking in the current arrangements and will welcome and other group from there

Lately, one northern mudug subclan has announced that they will join it, confirmed now by these leaders

Its a long interview so you have to keep listening until that point.
http://radiomuqdisho.net/barnaamijka-ku ... -ee-dalka/




Interesting clan power sharing analysis says HG will dominate the central state or basically it empowers HGs political future but hiiraan and middle shaballe will be 50/50(not fair at all!! How can you campare baladweyne to jowhar, buloburde to...I think reer hiiraan were too generous for middle shabelle bc they were trying to avoid the central state!) though the adminstration will be based in hiiraan, leadership to be a rotation.

By samatalis haile(I think he's wacaysle)
....new interim regional administration consisting of Mudug and Galgadud, two regions located in central Somalia.

The formation of this administration is constitutional per article 49 of the Provisional Constitution, PC, of the Federal Republic of Somalia, which stipulates two or more regions can emerge, on voluntary basis, to form Federal Member State.

However, northern Mudug, especially northern part of the Galk'ayo town, the regional capital of Mudug region is inhibited by clans that support Puntland. Puntland administration's president had claimed that it cut relations with Federal Government of Somalia, FGS, and recalled its parliamentarians, including its member of the Constitution Review Commission. Some members of the parliament originating from Puntland have answered the call and returned to Puntland.

This is a quote that I took from United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia Facebook, attributed to UN Secretary General special representative for Somalia, SRSG, Nicholas Kay, which appears to be an attempt to address the fall out of the intent to form new regional administration in central Somalia:“I urge parties to the agreement to engage in constructive consultation and reconciliation involving all stakeholders, ensuring that the interests of both emerging and existing administrations are protected,”.

Puntland is among existing regional administrations. If its interests are protected, then northern Mudug, or at least part of Mudug, will not be part of about to be formed interim regional administration for Mudug and Galgaduud.

If so, the interim administration that is about to be formed, in about two months, according to the agreement signed, will fail to qualify for a Federal Member State, FMS, per article 49 of the PC, which stipulates only two or more regions of pre-1991 regions can form, on voluntary basis, a Federal Member State.

One solution is to add Hiiraan to these regions so that about to formed regional administration may qualify, after interim period ends, for FMS.

Power distribution, clans and about to formed regional administration in central Somalia, is hereby discussed.

The clan that will benefit the most from this new political dispensation, about to be formed administration in central Somalia, is Habargidir. There are number of reasons for this thesis. First, H/Gidir consists of five sub- clan, two smaller, and three larger. The new administration, to be formed, will bring them under one tent, and as such they will acquire new political power lacked when smaller administrations divided them, for there is strength, as the old adage says, in unity.

This new strength or power will be available, for the first time, to address grievances and press claims against other regions or Federal Government.

Such power will not be available, to their recent historical rival, Mudolood, President's sub-clan. This clan like Habargidir is made of three major sub-clans and numerous smaller clans. One of the three major sub-clans of Mudulood, Wa'aysle, the president's sub-sub-clan, is scheduled to become part of about to be formed central administration,
Where Habargidir due to it's unity will constitute the majority clan, and Wa'aysle a minority due to scheduled separation of Wa'aysle from larger Mudolood clans.

Somalis should appreciate the presidents's lack of clannish agenda: he is separating his clan to assure their weakness in future federated Somalia.

Mudolood clans in Middle Shabelle also about to be united with HIiraan, mainly inhibited by Hawadle and Gugundhabe clans, Mudulood, in this realm will be equal partner with these clans, lacking strength accruing from unity.

Another less numerous Mudulood clans who reside in Waadi, valley, as it was known, from the perspective of this clan, or as it is officially known Lower Shabelle region, have already been added to Bay and Bakool, another Mudulood Minority.

To complete this process of Mudulood fragmentation, which enjoys geographical contiguity, extending from Haradheere, Waxwayn, Mudug to lower Shabelle, and thus make them weak, Mogadishu will be another region standing alone.

This project will be completed under watchful eye of a President who hails from the clan

The power implications of this expected fragmentation is lack of mechanism to address grievances, press claims against other regions and the Federal Government."

you are right Ximan iyo Xeeb president Baarleex believes that Puntland don't even control Mudug, he believes the whole Mudug is part of Galmudug in an interview he gave when he was in London in 19th of July before Muqdisho agreement shir to build Central State, he also said we are in talks with Galdogob/Leelkase.

Everyone should watch this interview from around 18:22 Baarleex clearly says that Mudug will be controlled by the new Central state Maamul. Also watch around 19:25 Mudane Baarleex doesn't believe puntland controls Mudug.......




Remember Puntland attacked Leelkase in Galkacyo and they killed so many innocent Leelkase civilians and many more of them were put in prison, Sacad was the only clan that saved Leelkase, Sacad gave Leelkase weapons and free medical help.
There are videos of Leelkase elders and people thanking Sacad Siciid.


Baarleex and Sahal80 know something not everyone knows about this new Central State Maamul.
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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Chinaman » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:12 pm

^Xamud, you should look at the Bullshit the above Hutu just spewed KKKK

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Osob101 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:23 pm

Correction Abgaal did not get 2 seats rather Waceysle got it and for your info you can keep your Hiiraan to yourself.

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Somali-Transporter » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:29 pm

In this interview with radio mogadishu, abdi qaybdiid and qoorleex the presidents of galmudug and ximanxeeb are confirming being about the whole mudug and that it depends on the clans who want to be part of it or not hence they welcomed some of the northern mudug clans who are partaking in the current arrangements and will welcome and other group from there

Lately, one northern mudug subclan has announced that they will join it, confirmed now by these leaders

Its a long interview so you have to keep listening until that point.
http://radiomuqdisho.net/barnaamijka-ku ... -ee-dalka/




Interesting clan power sharing analysis says HG will dominate the central state or basically it empowers HGs political future but hiiraan and middle shaballe will be 50/50(not fair at all!! How can you campare baladweyne to jowhar, buloburde to...I think reer hiiraan were too generous for middle shabelle bc they were trying to avoid the central state!) though the adminstration will be based in hiiraan, leadership to be a rotation.

By samatalis haile(I think he's wacaysle)
....new interim regional administration consisting of Mudug and Galgadud, two regions located in central Somalia.

The formation of this administration is constitutional per article 49 of the Provisional Constitution, PC, of the Federal Republic of Somalia, which stipulates two or more regions can emerge, on voluntary basis, to form Federal Member State.

However, northern Mudug, especially northern part of the Galk'ayo town, the regional capital of Mudug region is inhibited by clans that support Puntland. Puntland administration's president had claimed that it cut relations with Federal Government of Somalia, FGS, and recalled its parliamentarians, including its member of the Constitution Review Commission. Some members of the parliament originating from Puntland have answered the call and returned to Puntland.

This is a quote that I took from United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia Facebook, attributed to UN Secretary General special representative for Somalia, SRSG, Nicholas Kay, which appears to be an attempt to address the fall out of the intent to form new regional administration in central Somalia:“I urge parties to the agreement to engage in constructive consultation and reconciliation involving all stakeholders, ensuring that the interests of both emerging and existing administrations are protected,”.

Puntland is among existing regional administrations. If its interests are protected, then northern Mudug, or at least part of Mudug, will not be part of about to be formed interim regional administration for Mudug and Galgaduud.

If so, the interim administration that is about to be formed, in about two months, according to the agreement signed, will fail to qualify for a Federal Member State, FMS, per article 49 of the PC, which stipulates only two or more regions of pre-1991 regions can form, on voluntary basis, a Federal Member State.

One solution is to add Hiiraan to these regions so that about to formed regional administration may qualify, after interim period ends, for FMS.

Power distribution, clans and about to formed regional administration in central Somalia, is hereby discussed.

The clan that will benefit the most from this new political dispensation, about to be formed administration in central Somalia, is Habargidir. There are number of reasons for this thesis. First, H/Gidir consists of five sub- clan, two smaller, and three larger. The new administration, to be formed, will bring them under one tent, and as such they will acquire new political power lacked when smaller administrations divided them, for there is strength, as the old adage says, in unity.

This new strength or power will be available, for the first time, to address grievances and press claims against other regions or Federal Government.

Such power will not be available, to their recent historical rival, Mudolood, President's sub-clan. This clan like Habargidir is made of three major sub-clans and numerous smaller clans. One of the three major sub-clans of Mudulood, Wa'aysle, the president's sub-sub-clan, is scheduled to become part of about to be formed central administration,
Where Habargidir due to it's unity will constitute the majority clan, and Wa'aysle a minority due to scheduled separation of Wa'aysle from larger Mudolood clans.

Somalis should appreciate the presidents's lack of clannish agenda: he is separating his clan to assure their weakness in future federated Somalia.

Mudolood clans in Middle Shabelle also about to be united with HIiraan, mainly inhibited by Hawadle and Gugundhabe clans, Mudulood, in this realm will be equal partner with these clans, lacking strength accruing from unity.

Another less numerous Mudulood clans who reside in Waadi, valley, as it was known, from the perspective of this clan, or as it is officially known Lower Shabelle region, have already been added to Bay and Bakool, another Mudulood Minority.

To complete this process of Mudulood fragmentation, which enjoys geographical contiguity, extending from Haradheere, Waxwayn, Mudug to lower Shabelle, and thus make them weak, Mogadishu will be another region standing alone.

This project will be completed under watchful eye of a President who hails from the clan

The power implications of this expected fragmentation is lack of mechanism to address grievances, press claims against other regions and the Federal Government."

you are right Ximan iyo Xeeb president Baarleex believes that Puntland don't even control Mudug, he believes the whole Mudug is part of Galmudug in an interview he gave when he was in London in 19th of July before Muqdisho agreement shir to build Central State, he also said we are in talks with Galdogob/Leelkase.

Everyone should watch this interview from around 18:22 Baarleex clearly says that Mudug will be controlled by the new Central state Maamul. Also watch around 19:25 Mudane Baarleex doesn't believe puntland controls Mudug.......




Remember Puntland attacked Leelkase in Galkacyo and they killed so many innocent Leelkase civilians and many more of them were put in prison, Sacad was the only clan that saved Leelkase, Sacad gave Leelkase weapons and free medical help.
There are videos of Leelkase elders and people thanking Sacad Siciid.


Baarleex and Sahal80 know something not everyone knows about this new Central State Maamul.
Lmfao... this is basically game over for Puntland... :russ: :dead:

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby quark » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:42 pm

^Xamud, you should look at the Bullshit the above Hutu just spewed KKKK

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You guys are arguing with niggaz who believe in this BS


LoL Garacad is a Saleeban city? Idiot. It's 50% Sacad and the rest MJ, Leelkase, and Siwaaqroon.

Jariiban is mostly Saleeban though I think. But I am not too sure.
Don't you read? Saleebaan have no border with MJ.
here is what I said " Sacad ayaanle subclan live from 150 KM north of Hobyo after the Saleebaan Deegan to Garacad in the coast"
which means after 150 km North of hobyo when you finish the Saleebaan deegaan , you will enter Sacad deegaan and from there til you reach Garacad. Garacad is shared city Sacad and MJ, Jariibaan is also Sacad. This makes the Entire Mudug HG land some people where arguing with me the other day.

:damn: :dead: They ought to be just ignored :pac:

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby quark » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:47 pm



you are right Ximan iyo Xeeb president Baarleex believes that Puntland don't even control Mudug, he believes the whole Mudug is part of Galmudug in an interview he gave when he was in London in 19th of July before Muqdisho agreement shir to build Central State, he also said we are in talks with Galdogob/Leelkase.

Everyone should watch this interview from around 18:22 Baarleex clearly says that Mudug will be controlled by the new Central state Maamul. Also watch around 19:25 Mudane Baarleex doesn't believe puntland controls Mudug.......





Baarleex and Sahal80 know something not everyone knows about this new Central State Maamul.
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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Substance » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:51 pm

Central state second capital should be Garowe. Allow dowr Federalism. :up:

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Righteous » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:52 pm

Langaab Xawaadle don't want to join Habar Gidir and create a viable Federal State so they're trying to force Hutus to claim North Mudug.

Stop the bullshit, even your overlord Nicholas Kay confirmed Central State doesn't include Puntland's portion of Mudug. So all these posts and arguments on here were for naught, I hope you enjoyed wasting your time like this.
Or do you want to wait until Nicholas Kay lands in Garowe and begs Puntland to reconsider talking to Moryaandishu again? Hmm.

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Re: confirmed: central state to include northern mudug clans

Postby Righteous » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:53 pm

Central state second capital should be Garowe. Allow dowr Federalism. :up:
No, Central State's capital will be Caabudwaaq and its second capital will be Beledweeyne, enjoy the new reality on the ground.


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