reasons why sanbaloolshe was fired

[XimanJaale]

Sahal, the constitution gives the President the power to do those things as much as it does the Queen of England.

That is to say it is diplomatic code language that is symbolic because parliamentary democracies have a separate head of state from the head of government.

A Republic like the US and Kenya has a president who is head of state and head of government.

Parliamentary democracy has separated and gives symbolic respect to head of state even though the decision has been made by the head of government (pm) and cabinet.

So when you see the President "confirms" the appointment of ambassador or army chief or Her majesty "confirms" those folks, they are being respected as of states but without constitutional mandate to refuse.

Somalia had a huge argument about this during Saacid resignation. I think the donors have brought huge pressure since on the issue which is why the govt follows constitution better.

Sanbaloolshe was fired two months into the job. The Prez didn't "let" the PM do anything.

Exactly! Well...if we obey and carry out the exact constitutional and political rights that is. Sadly most Somalis are too retarded to follow instructions properly hence why the constant PM/President conflicts. Everybody needs to obey the power and the roles they are given.

Similar to how certain federal member state are playing the central government role. There is no order in Somalia!

[TheblueNwhite]

The guy is a loser and can't get along with anyone. He bitches like a jealous girl about trivial things. I think he is mentally ill.

"habartaa was" is his fav saying. I highly doubt, he will ever get a meaningful position after this. Good riddens!

@Habartaa was

Blue, who's going to replace him?

We will know by tomorrow. 1 of the candidates is a Gedabursi who used to be the Deputy Minister of Interior and Security in the CabdiWeli Gaas' cabinet.

FYI, this position was held by Habargedir for the longest time along with the Interior Ministry, to say it belongs to .5 is utter bs.

It doesn't belong to any clan, same goes for the Banks.

[Sanbalolshe]

War miyaa waalateen why are you guys talking about me in the third person when I'm here, present and also still have my full time job? I'm not fired at all wtf?

[thegoodshepherd]

Sahal, the constitution gives the President the power to do those things as much as it does the Queen of England.

That is to say it is diplomatic code language that is symbolic because parliamentary democracies have a separate head of state from the head of government.

A Republic like the US and Kenya has a president who is head of state and head of government.
Parliamentary democracy has separated and gives symbolic respect to head of state even though the decision has been made by the head of government (pm) and cabinet.
So when you see the President "confirms" the appointment of ambassador or army chief or Her majesty "confirms" those folks, they are being respected as of states but without constitutional mandate to refuse.

Somalia had a huge argument about this during Saacid resignation. I think the donors have brought huge pressure since on the issue which is why the govt follows constitution better.

Sanbaloolshe was fired two months into the job. The Prez didn't "let" the PM do anything.

This problem can be solved by having the PM be appointed by Parliament.
So that the president cannot interfere with the work of the PM.
Only parliament should have the power to hire and fire PM's.

[Substance]

sahal,

yuulka has a name, use his name instead of calling him yuulka every time. You sound like a bitter tribalist fool.

Ku raaxeeyso sawirkaan:

He is a tribalist fool and cant stand the fact that the pm not only doing his job without inteference but dividing and conquering control of damul jadiid from the inside. Sahal have allways had something against beesha for unknown reason altough he calls it politics but it is pure bitterness.
that's why he was on this pages before telling everyone xalane was gonna be pm etc.

[sahal80]

Substance

Wtflol when did I backed halane? All I said was farah abdulqadir was backing him!

Mate I do political analysis doesn't mean I'm with or against!

I know many stuff about the pm and how he thinks

I know many stuff about the govt

Godah is an independent outspoken politician, wasn't picked by the president for nothing but him and abdi hosh were promised for posts in exchange of a political backing

You may don't know goodah but he had 40 mps, playing good role for the govt in nairobi meetings, helpesd against saacid etc

However, he's counted on the president in this cabinet

Pm abdiwali is against him for that

Now sanbaloolshe was among the points that the pm was using against goodah

Godah had played good politics in his position from the baydhabo agreement and he still an mp so if he was removed he's waiting them in the parliament

The pm has failed to remove him

Since the attack on the NISA building, the pm was trying to get rid of sanbalooshe as an excuse, their relationship was bad

Now as xamar is cabaading against the security officers, he find it as a good chance to remove him targeting him only as a revenge from godah

This issue is a political not about contitution as this was the right of all the tfg presidents since abdullahi

However there is some political understanding with this pm, not bc of an out side pressure(infact the west backs strongly the president) but bc this pm has a dj advisors like gacal and ridwan hirsi some thing that saacid hadn't

Every time he clashes with the president, them two will sort out

There was no channels between saacid and hassan sheekh bc of his wife who rejected doodishe as the communicator between the two offices

Sanbaloolshe has improved the relationship with uk, he made contacts between the govt and M16 and they invited the ex security minister guleed to the uk offering him some logistics

Then the villa has appointed him as the director of NISA since he can work with the world

Pm was given his freedom to pick the police commander

Now he fired the presidents guy!!

How is this logical??

In the somali govt there are a political considerations and not every thing is done professionally!

The reason is the pm is taking advantage of the situation to get rid of the presidents closest guys

Next he may target some ministers who are allied with the president, thus, not bc of "the presidents relations" with sanbaloolshe but to prevent him from targeting others!

Read this westren analysis wich supports this theory!

"Mogadishu (DIPLOMAT.SO)- Informed sources ,confirms that the President of the Federal Republic of Somalia Hassan Sheikh Mohamud is not convinced the decision of the Council of Ministers which suggests the dismissal of the National Intelligence Security Agency (NISA) chief, ambassador Abdullahi Mohamed Ali “Sanbalolshe” following an accusation by shortening the performance of his duties.

Amb. Abdullahi Sanbalolshe was assigned to this position in July, and did not finish yet the second month since his appointment, which explains his dismissal of personal differences between him and some ministers.

Analysts say that the dismissal of the intelligence chief is not only a justification to show how political and constitutional differences between the president and his prime minister, but rather an attempt to intimidate the members of the cabinet closest to the president.

The president is considering his attitude toward this issue, which coincides in time government announced high alert from operations and suicide bombings may target vital areas and government buildings in Mogadishu, hatched by the Al shabaab , which issued a statement claiming that they will work to revenge the killing of its leader.

The president is not issued until now a presidential decree to dismiss the intelligence chief, and this is what may abort the decision of the Council of Ministers, which is tantamount proposal as the Constitution provides."



Rumours are saying there was a meeting between the president and dj regarding the pm and that the president may release a statement about the fired official, maybe tomorrow.