prez presides security meeting w/ th presence of sanbalolshe

[GeoSeven]

I know and as far as I'm aware, the power to dismiss the Director lies with the president and if he does not approve, I don't see how not to mention why the PM and some ministers are circumventing him. Not quite sure what political protocol Voltage is talking about.

[thegoodshepherd]

I know and as far as I'm aware, the power to dismiss the Director lies with the president and if he does not approve, I don't see how not to mention why the PM and some ministers are circumventing him. Not quite sure what political protocol Voltage is talking about.

If the PM cannot remove a ineffective member of his cabinet, then his role is ceremonial.
If the PM does not have this most basic of powers, then what can he actually do??
Why even have a PM??

[sahal80]

I know and as far as I'm aware, the power to dismiss the Director lies with the president and if he does not approve, I don't see how not to mention why the PM and some ministers are circumventing him. Not quite sure what political protocol Voltage is talking about.

Not quite sure what political protocol Voltage is talking about

its the president authorities(constitution says with the recomandation of the cabinet but all abdullahi yusuf, sharif were appointing them without challenge, he knows one of these guys appointed by abdullahi yusuf is gen ali madoobe whos related to him, its just for information to say with the recomandation not as ...)

look how i was close to the truth

sanbaloolshes crew: hes doing his normal job and hasnt been fired

independent sources: presedent called them all but yet has to take decision

rumours: he has reached the decision and has approved it

non of them was saying the pm has fired him and its over!

volatajiyaat at its finest!.

[The`Republic]

The President has no legal right to fire anyone. He only confirms what the PM and his government says just like what the Queen of England does to David Cameron.

This is a parliamentary democracy and the Constitution is clear.

Sanbaloolshe is fired. I know he is fired because the PM has already publicly said he is fired. The only thing left is to name the permanent replacement.

Case closed.

War jiraba cakaarahuu imaan.

[BigBreak]

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[GeoSeven]

I know and as far as I'm aware, the power to dismiss the Director lies with the president and if he does not approve, I don't see how not to mention why the PM and some ministers are circumventing him. Not quite sure what political protocol Voltage is talking about.

If the PM cannot remove a ineffective member of his cabinet, then his role is ceremonial.
If the PM does not have this most basic of powers, then what can he actually do??
Why even have a PM??

Evidently the system is beyond dysfunctional. To be honest, I don't even know why we even discuss it sometimes. Driving a car without wheels.

[original dervish]

^^^Somalia has no sovereignty....most politicians are only concerned with lining their pockets.
Don't expect things to change anytime soon.

[sahal80]

The President has no legal right to fire anyone. He only confirms what the PM and his government says just like what the Queen of England does to David Cameron.

This is a parliamentary democracy and the Constitution is clear.

Sanbaloolshe is fired. I know he is fired because the PM has already publicly said he is fired. The only thing left is to name the permanent replacement.

Case closed.

War jiraba cakaarahuu imaan.

Lol I swear to god abdiwali has no power to fire any one rather he does taqamus(taqamus is derived from qamis, meaning a shirt, which carries the implication that the body is the shirt"

Here abdiwali is ridwan hirsi!!

Tanasukh/taqamus=reincarnation-transmigration


I know abdiwali is right now in his way to london so I basically know his cercles more than you!


I can confirm now this issue as I got connected with my own sources in there

Yes sanbaloolshe is going

I really didn't know him well as I met him two times but my sources are telling me that he's stupid person that disrespect the people

When deputy pm ridwan hirsi come to him to talk about the security situation he said ti him "I will deport you"!

Hirsi has called the cabinet to fire him

According to my sources, he can be fired only by decree but there's direct dismissal and indirect dismissal

Example if a worker commits a thift he can be dismissed directly without going back to the manager!

The issue here is a moral one

Arresting an mp has made it a strong case against sanbaloolshe after he was fired

Pez hassan has told sanbalooshe I gave you the best ambassadorial post and you left it I'm sorry!

Sanbaloolshe left his job after he shares business with farah abdulqadir, he brought some unknown business brokers to intermediate between the govt and the oil companies but the brokers have been rejected by the companies

He also had some connections with some countries so that why he got his last job through farah abdulqadir.

According to my sources prez hassan wants sanbaloolshe to quit in a good way not by the decision of the cabinet.

[original dervish]

Why would the Govt need brokers between them and the oil companies?
Clearly this fellow left his Ambassadorship to make money of the Govt in Xamar.

[XimanJaale]

I know and as far as I'm aware, the power to dismiss the Director lies with the president and if he does not approve, I don't see how not to mention why the PM and some ministers are circumventing him. Not quite sure what political protocol Voltage is talking about.

Have you read the constitution?

[GeoSeven]

I know and as far as I'm aware, the power to dismiss the Director lies with the president and if he does not approve, I don't see how not to mention why the PM and some ministers are circumventing him. Not quite sure what political protocol Voltage is talking about.

Have you read the constitution?

I have, why?

[The`Republic]

Yes sanbaloolshe is going
.

It's been a joke to see you make a fool of yourself.

I willl say again the man was fired when the PM fired him days ago.

You just woke up.

[The`Republic]

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[sahal80]

Yes sanbaloolshe is going
.

It's been a joke to see you make a fool of yourself.

I willl say again the man was fired when the PM fired him days ago.

You just woke up.

I see you concentrating on my unbiased professional words in case they can help your miserable situation lollol

Do you know the difference between he's gone and is going?

He's right now in his office how he's gone?

Your story has no bases its based on your clan emotions!!

How many times these weak emotions have let you down? Why it hard for you to depend on your brain rather than depending on your heart?

Is all somalia crazy and your right? Every body knows that the president said the decision of the cabinet is null and void!

Firstly forget about that "decision", the cabinet and your PM stuff!!

If there's a case against sanbaloolshe, it will be sorted out though the right channels!

This is what I'm saying you thick emotional being!

Right now the remours on the news sites are saying the pm as he couldnt remove him through the cabinet and the inational security minister, he contected with amisom to pressure on him leave the office!

Lol at going to amism! And wich order they will take?

President sees the other way!

Clashes could happen but again who have the right to fire? The pm?

Check out your constitution wich I don't even believe it matters in villa somalia and dj circles!


This is dr uluso
"True, the Somali Cabinet has the collective responsibility to formulate and implement national policies on unity and security but the president retains the constitutional responsibility to assent the civil and political appointments as well as policy and legislative priorities of the Cabinet as president and Commander-In-Chief for subsequent legal decrees. More importantly, the parliament has the legislative and oversight responsibility over the executive."

The constitution
"Article 90. The Responsibilities and Powers of the President of the Federal Republic of Somalia
The powers and responsibilities of the President of the Federal Republic of Somalia are to:
(a) Declare a state of emergency and war in accordance with the law;
(b) Serve as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces;
(c) Appoint and dismiss the Commanders of the Forces at the Federal Government Level on the recommendation by the Council of Ministers;
(d) Appoint the Prime Minister, and to dissolve the Federal Government if it does not get the required vote of confidence from the House of the People of the Federal Parliament by a simple majority (50% +1);
(e) Dismiss ministers, state ministers and deputy ministers on the recommendation of the Prime Minister;
(f) Sign draft laws passed by the Federal Parliament in order to bring them into law;
(g) Open the House of the People of the Federal Parliament;
(h) Hold an annual session with the House of the People of the Federal Parliament;
(i) Address the House of the People of the Federal Parliament at any other time;
(j) Appoint the chairman of the Constitutional Court, the High Court, and other judges at the Federal Government Level in accordance with the recommendation of the Judicial Service Commission;
(k) Appoint senior Federal Government officials and the heads of the Federal Government Institutions on the recommendation of the Council of Ministers;
(l) Appoint ambassadors and high commissions on the recommendation of the Council of Ministers;
(m) Receive foreign diplomats and consuls;
(n) Confer State Honors on the recommendation of the Council of Ministers;
(o) Dissolve the House of the People of the Federal Parliament when its term expires, thereby prompting new elections;
(p) Pardon offenders and commute sentences on the recommendation of the Judicial Service Commission;
(q) Sign international treaties proposed by the Council of Ministers and approved by the House of the People of the Federal Parliament.
Somali Federal Constitution
SOMALI CONSTITUTION"
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