article about the last federal region to be formed

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It may be the last to be announced but looks much easier than many other regions


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Qorshaha Maamulka Goboleedka Hiiraan iyo Shabeellaha Dhexe oo dar-dar ku socda (Warbixin)
by A M | Monday, Sep 15, 2014 | 972 views




Kadib markii dowladda Soomaaliya ay aqoonsatay maamulka KMG ah ee Jubba ayaa gobollada kale ee dalka marka laga reebo Puntland iyo Soomaliland waxaa ka bidhaamay rajo ah hirgelinta nidaamka federaalka.

Kala jiidasho gobollada oo wadatashi ku saleysnaa ka ib waxaa isku biiray gobollada Bay, Bakool iyo Shabellaha Hoose oo aqoonsi ka heshay Dowladda Federaalka iyo Beesha Caalamka, Sidoo kale Gobollada Mudug iyo Galgaduud ayaa dadaal xoog leh oo ay ku bixisay Dowladda iyo siyaasiyiin ka soo jeeda Gobollka lagu guuleystay in dadka deegaankaasi isku waafaqaan dhisidda maamul goboleed.

Dhismaha maamulka gobollada dhexe ee Galgaduud iyo Mudug oo dhowaan la isku raacay ayaa waxaa soo baxday in dalka uu cagta saaray wadadii federaalka, ha yeeshee waxaa dad badan ka war-dhowrayaan ambaqaadka maamulka labada gobol ee soo hartay oo ay daruuri tahay in maamul sameystaan kuwaasi oo ah Shabeelaha Dhexe iyo Hiiraan.

Wada-tashiyo

Siyaasiyiin, Xildhibaano iyo wax-garad ka soo jeeda gobollada Hiiraan iyo Shabellaha Dhexe ayaa Muqdisho ka bilaabay wada tashiyo ku aadan hanaankii lagu bilaabi lahaa iyo sidii dhidibada loogu taagi lahaa maamul uu yeesho labada gobol ee qaniga u ah wax soo saarka beeraha.

Wada tashiyada socda waxaa ugu dambeeyay kulan casho ah oo uu habeen hore Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud u sameeyay siyaasiyiin, aqoonyahano, odayaal dhaqameedyo iyo xildhibaano labada gobol ka soo jeeda.

Madaxweynaha ayaa loo arkaa nin door weyn ka qaadan kara dhismaha maamulka labada Gobol Hiiraan iyo Shabeelaha Dhexe.

Tan koowaad Madaxweynuhu labada gobol si qoys ahaan ayuu uga soo jeedaa, dhinaca hooyada iyo aabaha dhalay, marka xal loo baahdana waa uu ku guuleysan karaa marka uu is qab qabsi dhaco, hase ahaatee waxay u badan tahay in meel dhow la isugu imaan doono.

Magaalooyinka Muqdisho, Jowhar iyo Beledweyn ayaa waxaa ka socda kulamo siyaasadeedyo lagu dejinayo shaxda maamulka iyo sidii dadka saameynta ku leh labada gobol loogu mideyn lahaa fikirka maamul dhisida labada Gobol.

Dhaqaalaha

Dadka odorasa arrimaha dhaqaalaha ayaa sheegaya in kheyraadka labada gobol leeyihiin ay ku laba jibaarmayaan dhammaan maamulada kale ee dalka ee ka hana-qaaday iyaga oo tusaalo u soo qaadanaya badda ku dherarsan gobolka Sh/Dhexe iyo wabiga Shabelle oo mara labada gobolba, iyada oo intaasi u sii dheer-tahay dhul-beereedka iyo ganacsiga ka jira maagaalooyinka labadda gobol.

Xiriirka labada gobol

Inkastoo aan labada gobol soo marin colaad qoto dheer ayaa hadana waxaa loo arki doonaa dadka ku wada nool inay yihiin dad wada dhashay, waxaana dadka aadka ugu xeelka dheer dajinta strategy-yada dhul deegaaneedka iyo taariikhda labada Gobol ay sheegayaan in Hiiraan iyo Sh/Dhexe yihiin kuwa isku mid ah dhanka dhalashada dadka deegaanka.

Dadka ku nool labada gobolka ayaa lagu tilmaamaa dhaqan wadaag aad isku dhax-milan taasi oo ka dhigan in maamul yagleelida labada gobol uu noqon doono mid si fudud oo dar-dar leh ku sameysma dadkuna mowqifkooda mideyn kara.

Caasimadda iyo Hogaanka

Inkastoo gobollo ku midoobay sameysashada maamul gobolleed dood dheer ka dhalatay magaalada noqon lahayd caasimadda maamulka goboleedka ayaa dad badan waxa ay is-weydiinayaan magaalada noqon karta caasimadda maamulka lagu wado in dhisidiisa si rasmi ah u bilaabato.

Marka laga yimaado awood qeybsiga unugyada hoose ee maamul dhisida ayaa u baahan in aad looga baaraan dego, halka ay noqon karto caasimadda maamulka lagu wado in dhowaan dhidibada loo taago haddii caasimadda laga dhigi karo magaalooyinka Gobolka Hiiraan ama kuwa Shabeellaha Dhexe.

Aragtida ugu hadal heynta badan ayaa ah in mid ka mid ah magaalooyinka gobolka Hiiraan laga dhigo caasimadda, waxaase la ogeyn wali in xal laga gaaray taas iyo in kale, maadaama hal gobol aan wada qaadan karin Madaxweyne iyo Caasimad, waana tan ugu horeysa ee lagu ogaan doono meeshii caasimad laga dhigo.

Inkastoo awood qeybsi walba ee u dhaxeeya labo gobol ee isku biirtay ay ugu muhiimsan yihiin cidii noqon lahayd hogaanka maamulka goboleedka iyo magaalada laga dhigi lahaa caasimadda ayaa hadana waxaa isfaham lagu qaadan karin hogaanka sare maamul gobolleedka oo ku imaan doona doorasho ay sameynayaan xildhibaannada la soo xuli doono.

Dowladda Federaalka ayaa dooneysa inay hirgeliso nidaamka federaalka ka hor sanadka 2016, isla markaana Gobolada dalkana ay ka dhaqan galaan Maamul goboleedyo rasmi ah.

By C/casiis Golf

Jowhar.

[BigBreak]

while i want to make clear somaliland will not be part of a single country with our neighbour somalia, i want to express my belief that for somalia they need to adopt centralism: you guys must completely disregard federalism of any type as this will be a step on the road of disintegration into clan based mini states. however if conditional unionists who are the (clan) federalists e.g. puntland say that there is no other governing system that makes them willing to stay part of somalia, then its best for everyone to be honest to say "we should all go our separate ways since we are not able to commit to somalia's unity unless our political objectives are met - even if it isnt beneficial to other citizens (clans)"

fake unionists inside somalia (ex italian colony) should lay off somaliland and look at themselves demanding igad back balkanizing style federalism

[Murax]

Sahal,


The last Federal State. Finally the borders have been drawn and peace will reign Inshallah.

[gurey25]

while i want to make clear somaliland will not be part of a single country with our neighbour somalia, i want to express my belief that for somalia they need to adopt centralism: you guys must completely disregard federalism of any type as this will be a step on the road of disintegration into clan based mini states. however if conditional unionists who are the (clan) federalists e.g. puntland say that there is no other governing system that makes them willing to stay part of somalia, then its best for everyone to be honest to say "we should all go our separate ways since we are not able to commit to somalia's unity unless our political objectives are met - even if it isnt beneficial to other citizens (clans)"

fake unionists inside somalia (ex italian colony) should lay off somaliland and look at themselves demanding igad back balkanizing style federalism

They did not mention Somaliland for once, why do you have to interject our name into this issue?
If they mentioned SL then we have all the right to march into this thread and troll the fuck out of it.

for future posts please leave us out of it.

[Murax]

Gurey25,

I am a 100% supporter of Somaliland idependence. Not 1 foreign soldier there for them to have law and order. However for geopolitical reasons, I don't see a scenario Where that can happen. The UN, EU, US don't seem all that supportive of that cause. The Arab League while it doesn't give a crap about Somalia or involve in any of their causes, they are Nazi in their opposition of Somaliland indepenence.

[sahal80]

while i want to make clear somaliland will not be part of a single country with our neighbour somalia, i want to express my belief that for somalia they need to adopt centralism: you guys must completely disregard federalism of any type as this will be a step on the road of disintegration into clan based mini states. however if conditional unionists who are the (clan) federalists e.g. puntland say that there is no other governing system that makes them willing to stay part of somalia, then its best for everyone to be honest to say "we should all go our separate ways since we are not able to commit to somalia's unity unless our political objectives are met - even if it isnt beneficial to other citizens (clans)"

fake unionists inside somalia (ex italian colony) should lay off somaliland and look at themselves demanding igad back balkanizing style federalism

lol he said govt is making admins with the exception of somaliland and puntland, means south-central region.

He's not claiming any thing just talks to the minds of his common people readers.

[GeoSeven]

Ultimately, it would depend on the preferences of the populace, I personally wouldn't have a problem with the merger, not that my opinion would amount to much . I suppose we have to start giving serious consideration to the prospect but to put it simply Sahal, if Reer Hiiraan want to make a stand alone, I'm all for it

I know our folks have been engaged in serious internal discussions for the past week and the issue is apparently polarizing. Some heavyweights are dead set on Hiiraan standing alone. We'll see how it goes. Wonder what Reer Jowhar think of it all?

[gurey25]

Gurey25,

I am a 100% supporter of Somaliland idependence. Not 1 foreign soldier there for them to have law and order. However for geopolitical reasons, I don't see a scenario Where that can happen. The UN, EU, US don't seem all that supportive of that cause. The Arab League while it doesn't give a crap about Somalia or involve in any of their causes, they are Nazi in their opposition of Somaliland indepenence.

The US/EU will do whats int their interest, and the arabs can all line up and suck my ceeb.
the ship has sailed, we should be concentrating on reconciliation.
and lets end this here before we derail the topic any further.

[Murax]

Gurey25,

I am a 100% supporter of Somaliland idependence. Not 1 foreign soldier there for them to have law and order. However for geopolitical reasons, I don't see a scenario Where that can happen. The UN, EU, US don't seem all that supportive of that cause. The Arab League while it doesn't give a crap about Somalia or involve in any of their causes, they are Nazi in their opposition of Somaliland indepenence.

The US/EU will do whats int their interest, and the arabs can all line up and suck my ceeb.
the ship has sailed, we should be concentrating on reconciliation.
and lets end this here before we derail the topic any further.

Thats the thing though I don't think the ship has sailed until there is recognition. Right now the ship is still in Zoomalia.

[gurey25]

Thats the thing though I don't think the ship has sailed until there is recognition. Right now the ship is still in Zoomalia.

let me put it straight, my generation and my parents generation are the only reasonable ones you will find.
There is another generation that never knew somalia, born after 91 and if you add those that were children during the late 80's
they make up half the population.
A large population that see somalia as an eternal enemy to be fought to the death,
they hate you more than you hate the ethiopians.
Now imagine some thing highly unlikely like what we counter-factual enthusiasts call ASB(Alien Space Bat) situation
where we use the it as a literal device to set a story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_space_bats
an ASB causes Somaliland to be defeated and forced back into a union.
Do you think it will end all merry?
You will have a never ending struggle and even greater hate than Faqash regime days.
Even I a Somaliweynist a dying breed will be forced to fight, and devote myself to the cause.

i would rather devote myself to the betterment of all somalis

The reality is that union the way you see it is allot more unlikely than recognition,
we need to find a way to compromise.

[Murax]

Thats the thing though I don't think the ship has sailed until there is recognition. Right now the ship is still in Zoomalia.

let me put it straight, my generation and my parents generation are the only reasonable ones you will find.
There is another generation that never knew somalia, born after 91 and if you add those that were children during the late 80's
they make up half the population.
A large population that see somalia as an eternal enemy to be fought to the death,
they hate you more than you hate the ethiopians.
Now imagine some thing highly unlikely like what we counter-factual enthusiasts call ASB(Alien Space Bat) situation
where we use the it as a literal device to set a story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_space_bats
an ASB causes Somaliland to be defeated and forced back into a union.
Do you think it will end all merry?
You will have a never ending struggle and even greater hate than Faqash regime days.
Even I a Somaliweynist a dying breed will be forced to fight, and devote myself to the cause.

i would rather devote myself to the betterment of all somalis

The reality is that union the way you see it is allot more unlikely than recognition,
we need to find a way to compromise.

I agree with You 100%. Keep in mind I support Somaliland recognition, because assuming somehow, someway the rest of Somalia gets it together, I won't want a return back to square one again. I think the key ingredient is a very underrated element called pragmatism. Somaliland and the rest of Somalia have to be pragmatic enough that this zero sum game cannot continue until enternity and that at the end nobody will win. The world sees us all the exact same, and paints us with the same brush. The challenges and obsticles are the same generally speaking When it comes to Somalis and the world. I hope to see a Somalia based on business, and this is why I like the idea of Federalism as at the end of the day it is the autonomous model provides hope.

[GeoSeven]

So Gurey, would you personally wouldn't mind preserving the union, provided the terms were acceptable to you

[gurey25]

Idealy I want a strong united Somalia,
And I want to regain the respect we used to have.
I want those uppity xabash and kenyans and everyone
To shiver and quiver out of fear and bow their heads when they see a somali.

I guys got to dream

[thegoodshepherd]

kheyraadka labada gobol leeyihiin ay ku laba jibaarmayaan dhammaan maamulada kale ee dalka

I think the author forgot that Lower Juba alone has more resources than this new mamul.
The richest region in Somaliweyn is probably lower Juba followed by lower shebelle.

[GeoSeven]

Idealy I want a strong united Somalia,
And I want to regain the respect we used to have.
I want those uppity xabash and kenyans and everyone
To shiver and quiver out of fear and bow their heads when they see a somali.

I guys got to dream

That's enlivening bro . I suppose the average Somalilanders stance makes sense to an extent, from a social and political perspective. In all honestly, if situations were reversed, a reasonable Southerner would probably aspire to the same ideals although their actions might be different in practice.