somalis have three governments

[original dervish]

I don't think the Hassan Sheikh regime can block the funds of any region.....they themselves have been blocked...rightly so too.
P/L needs to be patient....this is a marathon...not a sprint.

When the USA honoured the Hassan Sheikh regime with superpower recognition, everybody thought it would be a game changer.
However, the inept, incompetent and arrogant manner with which Hassan Sheikh "governed" has totally backfired.

The IC community has lost all faith in this corrupt regime and are withholding billions of Dollars.
Sooner or later this disastrous reign will end......P/L just has to sit tight.

[quark]

Somalis don't have a real understanding on how proper governance looks like. You can't have a state with in a republic that has its own army that's not federalism. Punt land can have a strong police force but there can only be one central command which falls under the department of defense . The federal government Handel's monetary affairs defense foreign policy resource sharing local police intellegence can be done federal state level. Guys this is basic I don't get why abdiweli wants somalia two have two armies which can't be the way forward.

Your right but its more than that, there should be one system in all the sectors including education, information, resources, taxs like any other govt in the world.

Pl does fall under the govt, to reach this a lot of meetings and visits were held but have failed for political reasons

Till they reach. Such agreements and implement them, they have nothing to do with eachother.

as it should be


SFG should stop claiming shit in our name whether its oil exploration, education etc Simple.

[Khalid Ali]

Righteous puntland has an army its commander of the army is general siciid dhere and u believe in the federal constitution u cant entertain the regional pl constitution and the federal constitution should be the leading constitution.

[sahal80]

Keep crying emotional ciyaal


Looks like you lack brain otherwise what's your point of being here?

I opened this thread to expose these misinformations

I understand why it makes some hate the facts

Whatever!

[sahal80]

Somalis don't have a real understanding on how proper governance looks like. You can't have a state with in a republic that has its own army that's not federalism. Punt land can have a strong police force but there can only be one central command which falls under the department of defense . The federal government Handel's monetary affairs defense foreign policy resource sharing local police intellegence can be done federal state level. Guys this is basic I don't get why abdiweli wants somalia two have two armies which can't be the way forward.

Your right but its more than that, there should be one system in all the sectors including education, information, resources, taxs like any other govt in the world.

Pl does fall under the govt, to reach this a lot of meetings and visits were held but have failed for political reasons

Till they reach. Such agreements and implement them, they have nothing to do with eachother.

as it should be


SFG should stop claiming shit in our name whether its oil exploration, education etc Simple.

Lol govt doesn't concentrate on pl, its busy on the south-central somalia

No education or resource sharing before sharing one system

What you don't get it is that though we have different governments we still share a country and for this part govt is responsible. Of representing the country, that why hassan sheekh is at the UN right now

If you want you can look for an international recognition and then represent your region.

[quark]

Sxb he can sleep in the UN for all i care, but when someone like the SFG oil minister chats shit and says no oil companies can explore in PL without going trough the "federal gov", then we have a problem. But i blame the kumbaya PL leadership first and foremost

[Khalid Ali]

Puntland cant have it both ways though it cant say we want independence but want to remain part of Somalia at the same time Puntland should either pursue independence and leave Somalia together and share nothing with Somalia. Or fight for their share and deal with Mogadishu directly. Mogadishu cant give u their scholarship and training while u have ur own separate army. I can understand that.

[sahal80]

Sxb he can sleep in the UN for all i care, but when someone like the SFG oil minister chats shit and says no oil companies can explore in PL without going trough the "federal gov", then we have a problem. But i blame the kumbaya PL leadership first and foremost

the constitution that's backed by pl represents the country and it says that!

Govts position is that she owns the licenses but with the presence of the regional stakeholders it will make such deals

Govt is totally a different entity, it means having control on some region

Pl is not in this system until its institutions fall under the govt including the army, education etc

So, they have nothing to do with eachother!

Its misleading to say why the army in buuloburde gets wages and not those in galgale, aren't they both fighting al shabab lol

Hiiraan is controlled by the govt but does she control galgala? Put that army under the defense ministry then we will take this seriously!

Put your education system under the govts ministry of education before you could talk about scholarship!

Is not that clear?

We got all this in the name of the recognized somali govt!

[sahal80]

Puntland cant have it both ways though it cant say we want independence but want to remain part of Somalia at the same time Puntland should either pursue independence and leave Somalia together and share nothing with Somalia. Or fight for their share and deal with Mogadishu directly. Mogadishu cant give u their scholarship and training while u have ur own separate army. I can understand that.

exactly! This is the point! Chose between independence or integration!

Dadkaan waxee rabaan ardo wasaaradooda ko saxiixan in dibada loo diro, how that is logical lol

[quark]

imo, gaas should just forget it, what's the point in talking to folks who believe $$ donated in the name of all somalia which PL is part of unfortunely, is thiers?




Independence all day everyday for me and eventually when others see the enemy that is the "SFG" hopefuly they will wake up.

[Khalid Ali]

Quark well puntland refused to share its institutions with Somalia govt and refused to combine the forces and create one central command why should they give u what they got from Gaalada. They Hawiye led SFG should have it and eat it unless u share with them ur land and they share the sadaqo the west gives them. There is nothing in between and i explained it very well. Majeerteen cant survive with out Mogadishu thats why abdiweli gaas has declared that he cut ties with the Dawlada xamar.

[quark]

Quark well puntland refused to share its institutions with Somalia govt and refused to combine the forces and create one central command why should they give u what they got from Gaalada. They Hawiye led SFG should have it and eat it unless u share with them ur land and they share the sadaqo the west gives them. There is nothing in between and i explained it very well. Majeerteen cant survive with out Mogadishu thats why abdiweli gaas has declared that he cut ties with the Dawlada xamar.

[thegoodshepherd]

imo, gaas should just forget it, what's the point in talking to folks who believe $$ donated in the name of all somalia which PL is part of unfortunely, is thiers?

Quark if only they stopped at that
The tried to block Kuwait and Italy from funding the Bosaso and Galkacyo airports.
Do you know what they said?? "As the Gov of Somalia, the money should go though us as a channel"
They are literally interfering with the development of Puntland.
What do you expect from mooryan

[quark]

imo, gaas should just forget it, what's the point in talking to folks who believe $$ donated in the name of all somalia which PL is part of unfortunely, is thiers?

Quark if only they stopped at that
The tried to block Kuwait and Italy from funding the Bosaso and Galkacyo airports.
Do you know what they said?? "As the Gov of Somalia, the money should go though us as a channel"
They are literally interfering with the development of Puntland.
What do you expect from mooryan

[Estarix]

imo, gaas should just forget it, what's the point in talking to folks who believe $$ donated in the name of all somalia which PL is part of unfortunely, is thiers?

Quark if only they stopped at that
The tried to block Kuwait and Italy from funding the Bosaso and Galkacyo airports.
Do you know what they said?? "As the Gov of Somalia, the money should go though us as a channel"
They are literally interfering with the development of Puntland.
What do you expect from mooryan

well they have a case so long as puntland stays with the carcass that is somalia, puntland comes under the federal government so any attempt to deal directly with federal state without consulting the federal government is contraband.