wich pm is best suited to president hassan?

[sahal80]

Obviously the reason behind president hassan picking two pms from the region of gedo was that it was perceived as a political ally or being centralist oriented, less tribalist comparing to its sister regions


Politics are not about principles its about how to fuction, allying with and making compromises

Its not also about to have the most suitable partner this is why the political compromises that carry their risks with them

If it was about who's best suited to the centralists of mogadishu I will say a dir pm bc there's no regional power that can conspire with him

Despite what some are publically saying, there are a lot of them in there with with their own candidates to the point that the pm is close to giving up!

Their media also sounds hypocritical!

And who knows if there's a conspiracy to cause a rage against the pm!

I don't think that halane will be different than abdiwali, he's even more dangerous bc of the regional countries who are now silence in the hope of that he may be replaced by some one who's more closer to them

But him and farah abdulqadir are friends

The other reason is making a new political deal with his subclan since they control kismayo

Halane believes this policy of his sub clan involving in the central govt instead of other regions!

But there's no assurance of things going like this way


To the friends of the govt what do you think?

[MaydhMax]

hello sahal im a new user and u can call me by my initials OSH

i believe that the next pm should be dir instead of darood or even my own isaaq but he should be from a southern dir subclan not a northern dir (ciise, g'bursi, akhiso) since it makes no sense bringing any northerner to the top until the issue of unity/separation is resolved. the good thing about a southern dir e.g. qubeys or biyomaal is that they dont have much territory to form a federal state and instead their interests are more protected by a strong national govt and a pm who is from southern dir is more able to have a common centralist vision with a hawiye president

also do you believe from a clan point of view only kablalah is against a strong central govt even whether unitary or federal

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

I think that farah abdulqadir with good intentions is still giving the president of Somalia bad advice. First of all who were the people responsible in bringing this Haber Walal PM? We can't be seen to be doing silly mistakes like this, the next PM needs to be someone who's totally reliable, someone we can trust, someone who believes in a united strong Somalia.

Now Farah Abdulqadir wants to bring in Xalane as the new PM and I don't even know who Xalane is. I don't even trust the sound of the name Xalane, lol.

If I could advise the government, I would ask them to keep this Haber walan PM rather than appointing a new PM just to backstab us again and this time finish us for good. Baldy is ideal because he is weak with no base/freinds, theres tensions and mistrust between him Ahmed Madoobe even his own Sade clan blames him for them losing the Jubba's (possibly)forever and for opposing Barre Hiiraale initiative of capturing the Jubba's. HG have also grown to hatetthis PM (which is what we REALLY needed).

The government needs to push the merger of all Mudug and Galgaduud regions and encourage the Haber Walan PM to publically oppose it. So the government should use these tools

So the president looks very strong aginst this Haber walan PM, even those who had disliked the president have now been forced to back him because of them disliking the PM more.

[Osob101]

You make it seem like Xasan Sheikh actually has a power to dictate as to who he appoints , If and that is Abdiweli goes its 100% guaranteed the Position will go to reer Gedo again or who ever the international community say's must be appointed.

[SecretAgent]

kenya wants a ogaden but ethiopa wants a mj pm dam jadiid wants marehan pm till elections.

[sahal80]

hello sahal im a new user and u can call me by my initials OSH

i believe that the next pm should be dir instead of darood or even my own isaaq but he should be from a southern dir subclan not a northern dir (ciise, g'bursi, akhiso) since it makes no sense bringing any northerner to the top until the issue of unity/separation is resolved. the good thing about a southern dir e.g. qubeys or biyomaal is that they dont have much territory to form a federal state and instead their interests are more protected by a strong national govt and a pm who is from southern dir is more able to have a common centralist vision with a hawiye president

also do you believe from a clan point of view only kablalah is against a strong central govt even whether unitary or federal

Good points. No I don't think he will be from south if that was the option just to give the world the impression of representing more than a region



Not necessary being from beel dhexe.

[MaydhMax]

but sahal what point does it do to appoint a northerner as pm when he cannot even vists his home. even within the south a person from the garowe enclave would conspire against other parts of the south and also even would weaken a strong central govt despite heading it if he was to be appointed prime minister.

its very important for the president to focus on, and appoint a pm from, regions from south mudug downwards because such regions are realistically possible for mogadishu to control and a pm needs to be able to visit his home he controls

[Even123]

Brother sahal, i think the best MP in this era should be another marehan, but this time an member of the DJ.

[sahal80]

Govt is based on 4.5 formula until 2016 so its about clan power- sharing but being beloning to a different region makes you different

There are northerners like samatar, galaydh who are third way and are calling for a south-north power sharing

But there's an agenda of north having a separate govt in post-2016(federate region with its own govt like zinjibar)

So dir card is not that strong in the south and may come to end soon

But it works till the next elections.

[Even123]

Govt is based on 4.5 formula until 2016 so its about clan power- sharing but being beloning to a different region makes you different

There are northerners like samatar, galaydh who are third way and are calling for a south-north power sharing

But there's an agenda of north having a separate govt in post-2016(federate region with its own govt like zinjibar)

So dir card is not that strong in the south and may come to end soon

But it works till the next elections.

interesting sahal, very interesting.


thanks sahal

[sahal80]

Dir can be a pm but the political reality imposes certain clan since the govt acts in the name of somalia and they are part of the somali project

So in order to get some regions on your side politically and military wise you need to pick from them

But the opposite happens when the pm tries to consolidate his position with his regions instead of focussing on taking the govt forward

The problem comes from the regions who want to destabilize the govt.

[thegoodshepherd]

[AbdiWahab252]

Saacid. At least he never went against HSM.

[BlackRain]

You might as well call it Irrir government. A government with Hawiye President, Dir PM and D&M speakers sounds really funny

[XimanJaale]

Sahal,

Why do you always talk rubbish. HSM has never appointed two Gedo PM's. Saacid is not from Gedo he is from Galgaduud learn the f-king difference. Yes they are both Marehan but they are not from the same f-king region. Marehan is a nation we don't only inhabit Gedo. Next time you either say Marehan instead of Gedo or use the correct region! Your just a coward tribalist, at least be brave enough to mention the clan names with your indirect tribalism.

Saacid. At least he never went against HSM.

He did, if he didn't why did he had a feud with HSM? Saacid was more of a bold calm guy, but he was never HSM lap dog.