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Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:52 pm
by Togdeer
How about we rule by Sharia and dispense with representative government. No more tribes fighting over political power. Rule by the Quran and Sunnah.
Seem so simple and straightforward.
But who will be the leader?
Reer hebel will not agree to have am amir from beesha reer hebel.
A meritocratic selection process whereby applicants to Civil Service jobs have to pass an exam. No Xakim but a government of technocrats and religious scholars in a Ruling Council.
Mate your dreaming. Either You want to join Al-shabaab, because they have a similar mentality. But more extreme.
Or you just dreaming, A failed state that had not government for 24 years, uniting is a dream too far.
Somalis would never unite, even though we have the same religion, culture and language. We can't even get on, yet India has 1.2 billion people, different religions and different langauges. But everyone gets on. Somalis would never unite, ever!
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:55 pm
by KnowThySelf23
BRo, it is ok, me and KTS are familiar. She is an atheist and comments from such a perspective.
KTS, we are a Muslim society, HBaaris and I are discussing things as fellow Muslims so cut us some slack.
Togdheer, are you that brainwashed that anyone who speaks the truth is Al Shabab. I mentioned what the ideal Islamic State is. Does suicide bombing come under Sharia? I think not.
i respect that and i don't mean any of my comments to come out rude, i apologize if any of you guys took offence..im just trying to explain things from my point of view...i have nothing but love for muslim people.
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:59 pm
by original dervish
Good in theory...bad in practice.
Somali's will still divide along clan for the most part.
The country needs a benevolent dictator.....along the lines of Qaddafi or Castro.
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:59 pm
by jalaaludin5
How about we rule by Sharia and dispense with representative government. No more tribes fighting over political power. Rule by the Quran and Sunnah.
Seem so simple and straightforward.
But who will be the leader?
Reer hebel will not agree to have am amir from beesha reer hebel.
A meritocratic selection process whereby applicants to Civil Service jobs have to pass an exam. No Xakim but a government of technocrats and religious scholars in a Ruling Council.
You talking about the process and methods but am talking about the nature of our people.
I hear people often say lets use the qur'an which is all good, but how?
Its not attainable as things stand.
We see things through qabil tinted lenses and even the holy qur'an is not safe from such abuse.
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:00 pm
by KnowThySelf23
Good in theory...bad in practice.
Somali's will still divide along clan for the most part.
The country needs a benevolent dictator.....along the lines of Qaddafi or Castro.
or siad barre part 2

Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:00 pm
by zumaale
KTS, we are probably 99 percent Sunni Muslims, atheism is an affliction that affects the diaspora. Qabil will never go away but Sharia is the best system to contain it.
Togdheer, I do not suffer fools gladly. Who is talking about reunification, nigga get a grip, my views ain't about Somaliland, Somalia, Puntland or the next BongoBongoLand. I am talking about an ideal. Get it, an ideal. Unlikely in our lifetime or even until the Mahdi turns up as we live in the times of Fitna.
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:02 pm
by KnowThySelf23
@zuumale i disagree...but lets just leave it at that..
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:05 pm
by HooBariiska
@zuumale i disagree...but lets just leave it at that..
which part dont u agree? your really 0.000001% in somalia. U have no choice but to go with the flow.
As a muslim living in a non muslim, i go with the flow with all this things that contradict my religion.
Thats cos i am minority and have little to no say
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:09 pm
by KnowThySelf23
@zuumale i disagree...but lets just leave it at that..
which part dont u agree? your really 0.000001% in somalia. U have no choice but to go with the flow.
As a muslim living in a non muslim, i go with the flow with all this things that contradict my religion.
Thats cos i am minority and have little to no say
thats untrue...
the over whelming majority might be muslim, but there are a number of christians and atheists around the world...also a lot of them are under cover atheists, regardless...it would be unfair to exclude your fellow somalis based on your personal beliefs...at the end of the day, regardless of your religion you all have equal right to that land
ps of course you go with the flow on foreign land as you are not the ethnic majority...you have no right to the land...but as a somali you obviously (regardless of religion) have every right and say to be angry at how your country is run and what you don't like about it.
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:15 pm
by zumaale
@zuumale i disagree...but lets just leave it at that..
which part dont u agree? your really 0.000001% in somalia. U have no choice but to go with the flow.
As a muslim living in a non muslim, i go with the flow with all this things that contradict my religion.
Thats cos i am minority and have little to no say
thats untrue...
the over whelming majority might be muslim, but there are a number of christians and atheists around the world...also a lot of them are under cover atheists, regardless...it would be unfair to exclude your fellow somalis based on your personal beliefs...at the end of the day, regardless of your religion you all have equal right to that land
KTS, not according to the 'constitution' of any Somali territory, if you are not a Muslim, you are next to nothing back home. It is just not a personal belief but State sanctioned discrimination of non-Muslims. There is no secularism, the only Gaal that is welcome is the one that works for aid organisation, oil companies, UN etc. A Somali Gaal is condemned back home if they choose to return and will have to accept being a second class citizen if not killed by a random Muslim who believes they are carrying out their religious duty.
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:17 pm
by original dervish
KTS23.....if Somali's thought they could refugee status for being atheist........99% would follow you overnight.

Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:19 pm
by KnowThySelf23
KTS, not according to the 'constitution' of any Somali territory, if you are not a Muslim, you are next to nothing back home. It is just not a personal belief but State sanctioned discrimination of non-Muslims. There is no secularism, the only Gaal that is welcome is the one that works for aid organisation, oil companies, UN etc. A Somali Gaal is condemned back home if they choose to return and will have to accept being a second class citizen if not killed by a random Muslim who believes they are carrying out their religious duty.
WTF???? okay idk if your trolling or just spreading fake all kabab mentality....i don't think somalia is anti non muslim....it never was...wtf?
can someone please come on here and tell me of what he's saying is correct....
wtf??
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:20 pm
by KnowThySelf23
KTS23.....if Somali's thought they could refugee status for being atheist........99% would follow you overnight.

what are you talking about?
Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:20 pm
by Lancer
Good in theory...bad in practice.
Somali's will still divide along clan for the most part.
The country needs a benevolent dictator.....along the lines of Qaddafi or Castro.
or siad barre part 2


Re: I have a solution to solve somalia political problems
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:21 pm
by MujahidAishah
I refuse to be ruled by a president who is a laangaab I can't respect him
