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Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:15 am
by Khalid Ali
Sudan has not taken sides its waiting for the right time to jump ship Khartoum has some times operated as a mediator between Egypt and Ethiopia it hosted allot of talks Sahal is right that Khartoum and South sudan talked in Ethiopia Khartoum is not anti Ethiopia nor anti the Dan Per-say.

Liquid thinks this is the 1970s when Egypt and Sudan were allies , during the reigns of Gaafar Nimeiry and anwar saddat Egypt and SUDAN are not as close as they were before there are allot of differences.

The question is not can Egypt attack Ethiopia but will it attack Ethiopia there is allot of dialogue behind close doors allot of discussions the Europeans the Americans Israelis the Chinese are all in the middle of this

By the Way Eritrea is not a player in this conflict Eritrea has been outmaneuvered by Ethiopia Diplomatically and Militarily Eritrea is isolated so when ever Afoworki visits Cairo its just to put up a play and try to use his visits as scare tactics against Ethiopia. When things get real and Eritrea tries sabotage Ethiopia one call from Tel aviv will do the work, and i dont think Afowrki is that stupid to jeopardize his good relations with the Jewish state.

The Nile conflict is a conflict which has its roots in the colonial treaties Britain orchestrated during its stay in Egypt and the Sudan. There has to be a comprehensive agreement on this no one is denying that Egypt has a superior air force but it will not use and the Sudan issue also stands in the way. Egypt now tries to create a new relationship with South sudan.

As for Djibouti , Djibouti is also not a player , Djibouti is part of The Horn of Africa Sahal claims it neighbors Syria lol , being a member of the Arab league is meaningless there is not one common Foreign policy of the Arab league on the Palestinian Israeli conflict not on the Syrian conflict not on the Lebanese issue and not on the Ethiopian and Egyptian Nile dispute Djibouti will side with Ethiopia , there was not even an agreement on the Golf states on Egypt or its own Foreign Policy, Arab league is dysfunctional organization.

Djibouti benefits from its Economic Commercial ties with Ethiopia it benefits from Ethiopia and the electricity from the Ethiopian grand renaissance dam. People dont understand the world does not operate like Somalis think, Militarily is a last resort only Somalis would use the army as the first option to get things done hence the demise of the former Somali republic.

The Egyptians have been dreaming of an alliance with the Somalis in the Horn of Africa because there were animosities between the Somalis and the Ethiopians in the past , the Egyptians tried to revive the Former Somali republic it has tried so many efforts. But unlucky them the Somalis of today will never be used by Arabs against the Ethiopians have freed the Somalis from Alshabaab with out Ethiopia 70% of the territory would be in the Hands of Alshabaab. There is not a Somali leader in the Horn who doesn't say anaga iyo walaalaheena Ethiopia whether Ina cumar Geele Axmed Siilaanyo Xassan Sheikh.

Bal weynu u fadhina 2017 is beritoole.

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:19 am
by Based
But unlucky them the Somalis of today will never be used by Arabs against the Ethiopians have freed the Somalis from Alshabaab with out Ethiopia 70% of the territory would be in the Hands of Alshabaab. There is not a Somali leader in the Horn who doesn't say anaga iyo walaalaheena Ethiopia whether Ina cumar Geele Axmed Siilaanyo Xassan Sheikh.
lol

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:19 am
by axmed89
Sudan has not taken sides its waiting for the right time to jump ship Khartoum has some times operated as a mediator between Egypt and Ethiopia it hosted allot of talks Sahal is right that Khartoum and South sudan talked in Ethiopia Khartoum is not anti Ethiopia nor anti the Dan Per-say.

Liquid thinks this is the 1970s when Egypt and Sudan were allies , during the reigns of Gaafar Nimeiry and anwar saddat Egypt and SUDAN are not as close as they were before there are allot of differences.

The question is not can Egypt attack Ethiopia but will it attack Ethiopia there is allot of dialogue behind close doors allot of discussions the Europeans the Americans Israelis the Chinese are all in the middle of this

By the Way Eritrea is not a player in this conflict Eritrea has been outmaneuvered by Ethiopia Diplomatically and Militarily Eritrea is isolated so when ever Afoworki visits Cairo its just to put up a play and try to use his visits as scare tactics against Ethiopia. When things get real and Eritrea tries sabotage Ethiopia one call from Tel aviv will do the work, and i dont think Afowrki is that stupid to jeopardize his good relations with the Jewish state.

The Nile conflict is a conflict which has its roots in the colonial treaties Britain orchestrated during its stay in Egypt and the Sudan. There has to be a comprehensive agreement on this no one is denying that Egypt has a superior air force but it will not use and the Sudan issue also stands in the way. Egypt now tries to create a new relationship with South sudan.

As for Djibouti , Djibouti is also not a player , Djibouti is part of The Horn of Africa Sahal claims it neighbors Syria lol , being a member of the Arab league is meaningless there is not one common Foreign policy of the Arab league on the Palestinian Israeli conflict not on the Syrian conflict not on the Lebanese issue and not on the Ethiopian and Egyptian Nile dispute Djibouti will side with Ethiopia , there was not even an agreement on the Golf states on Egypt or its own Foreign Policy, Arab league is dysfunctional organization.

Djibouti benefits from its Economic Commercial ties with Ethiopia it benefits from Ethiopia and the electricity from the Ethiopian grand renaissance dam. People dont understand the world does not operate like Somalis think, Militarily is a last resort only Somalis would use the army as the first option to get things done hence the demise of the former Somali republic.

The Egyptians have been dreaming of an alliance with the Somalis in the Horn of Africa because there were animosities between the Somalis and the Ethiopians in the past , the Egyptians tried to revive the Former Somali republic it has tried so many efforts. But unlucky them the Somalis of today will never be used by Arabs against the Ethiopians have freed the Somalis from Alshabaab with out Ethiopia 70% of the territory would be in the Hands of Alshabaab. There is not a Somali leader in the Horn who doesn't say anaga iyo walaalaheena Ethiopia whether Ina cumar Geele Axmed Siilaanyo Xassan Sheikh.

Bal weynu u fadhina 2017 is beritoole.
:up:

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:41 pm
by sahal80
Lol no wonder why your behind!!

Sudan fully supports ethiopia on the dam issue
http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://ww ... jCt15IUauQ
http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://ww ... UELHs3nD9g

"Sudan's Bashir Announces Support for Ethiopian Dam Ahead ...
www​.worldaffairsjournal.org/.../sudans-"

"Sudanese President Omar Al-Bashir has announced his support for Ethiopia's Renaissance dam during a meeting with ...
Sudan's Bashir affirms support for Ethiopia dam project - Sudan ...
www​.sudantribune.com/spip.php?...
1 May 2014 ... April 30, 2014 (BAHIRDAR, ETHIOPIA) – Sudanese president Omer Hassan al Bashir has pledged ..".

"Sudanese president backs Ethiopian dam ahead of Nile talks ..."

Sudan only hasn't signed the antteba nile agreement bc it will have more water under the colonial anglo-egyptian agreement

There has been a conflict between egypt and sudan since the laters independence in 1955 from the former over its share of water, so nasir has splitted the water between egypt and sudan in 1959, away from the other nile countries

Sudan gets abit more than them while egypt has the lions share in this

This is according to sudans interests and nothing has to do with egypt!

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:43 pm
by GAMES
Ethiopa is 4th largest army in africa it has brought new tanks,f-18s,drones, even manufacturing its own weapons. It has the backing of israel theres no way egypt can attack,eritrea is dead ethiopan rebels are protecting the president.
LoL Ethiopia has F16's? Where did u hear that from?

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:59 pm
by sahal80
We support egypt 100%

What has ethiopia done for you northern guys in exchange of your support

Dj has used ethiopia against kenya and in a diplomatic works like the IGAD position in the ICs view over the govts political infightings

Ethiopia is neutral between you and PL!

And your galbeed opposition!

Btw according to the media on the tongue of your hirsi minister, you have contraputed $1m to the ethiopian Dam

What will you get in exchange of this?

We r playing with egypt against ethiopia that why it respects us!



"The Addis Ababa government, which is itself very quick off the mark when it wants Somaliland to hand back Ethiopian opponents, is refusing to do likewise with the Gadabursi that Hargeisa is asking for. The Ethiopian Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Ambassador Berhane Gebre-Christos declined, on 16 January, to comply with the request from the Somaliland Minister for Foreign Affairs Mohamed Bihi Yonis, to expel the Gadabursi who have taken refuge in the Ogaden Regional State. Hargeisa suspects these Gad
abursi of being linked to Abubakar Elmi Wabar (Jibril Yonis/Gadabursi), the leader of a rebel movement in Awdal Province in Somaliland. Fears of destabilisation have already led President Ahmed Mohamed Mahamoudknown as Silanyo to build up government troops in the region’s capital, Borama. However, despite this deployment of SECURITY forces, shots were fired at the city’s police station on 23 January, attributed to the Gadabursi rebels.

The second largest clan in Somaliland, the Gadabursi are opposed to Somaliland’s independence which is wanted by the majority Issaq community, and instead want union with Mogadishu. In the last few weeks, some Somalian MPs have even urged the federal government to support Abubakar Elmi Wabar’s rebels. Trying to appease the revolt, Silanyo (Issaq) promised to PROMOTE the Gadabursi in his administration. He is planning to increase the responsibilities of technology minister Ali Hamud Jibril (Gadabursi), by appointing him FINANCE minister (ION 1395)."

http://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A% ... VM8yjs&s=1

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:15 pm
by Khalid Ali
Sahal what has egypt done for somalia
I dont get it

Ethiopia helps u defeat shabaab With out ethiopia much of ur land would be Under shabaab

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:17 pm
by sahal80
Just like we r playing with iran to attract the arabs!

The Egyptian generals arrived at Mogadishu"

"stated that Tehran would give $15 million assistance to Mogadishu"

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:27 pm
by sahal80
Sahal what has egypt done for somalia
I dont get it

Ethiopia helps u defeat shabaab With out ethiopia much of ur land would be Under shabaab
We had army contract with egypt under morsi in wich qatar will fund it on the sides of the doha arab summite but bc of the change in egypt and the bad relationship between the new govt of egypt and qatar the contract has been postponed until we find other diplomatic channels

It has been fixed and our govt has engaged with egypt despite her bad relations with qatar and turkey

We r playing with all now from iran to the UAE and from egypt to qatar and from saudi arabia to turkey

There will be arab financial conference in egypt over somalia

There will be new military agreement with egypt

Egypt gives us over 400 scholarship a year

Egypt is the arab leadership simple as that!

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:27 pm
by Khalid Ali
Yeah but u cant be of service of egypt somalia is militarily Under ethiopia. U cant be their pawn I asked what u gain from egypt what ever u can get from egypt is long term 10 to 15 years

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:34 pm
by theyuusuf143
This is the only time I'll support the Habesha Ethiopians, after all, I got some of their blood flowing through my veins.

Bah Xabuusho will stand by their mother Ethiopia. Faqashta iyo kudaafada kale ha inoo dambeysee :lol:

Me and Yusuf will be on the frontline ASAP maalintu Abdifataax Sisi dagaal soo qaado.

lool . from political point of view Ethiopia is willing to share its cheap electricity with other east african countries including our country. Egypt has nothing to offer us, for that reason all somalis should support the project. I hate ethiopian domination in the region because we somalis must always have the same military strength as Ethiopia but I have nothing against the human life development of all east African countries. I want both xabashis and somalis to have better life standard.

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:42 pm
by sahal80
Yeah but u cant be of service of egypt somalia is militarily Under ethiopia. U cant be their pawn I asked what u gain from egypt what ever u can get from egypt is long term 10 to 15 years
wrong. Ethiopia is just amisom and is not allowed in the capital, we repect her for political balances bc of her relations with the somali politicians!

Soon we will make new diplomatic conduct legislations and you will see ethiopia obeying this!

At first our govt was against ethiopia and has cancelled all the IGAD/kenyan/ethiopian contracts with the army like training them in the borders

If you don't believe this why many anti- al shabaab operations were stopped in some regions!

Govt has been using ethiopia against kenya and has succeeded on this

Today kismayo is full of govts institutions and offices

All the pro-kenyan militias will be made SNA forces

We r not on stage to fight with two countries but we will stop ethiopia as soon the federal process comes to end bc they r acting as IGAD and there won't be no more IGAD after that stage

IGAD is for every regional country who has a conflict like south sudan

I don't mean we can get rid of ethiopia in this govt but we will change many things or make ethiopia have bilateral realtions with the govt of somalia

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:48 pm
by Xildiiid
This is the only time I'll support the Habesha Ethiopians, after all, I got some of their blood flowing through my veins.

Bah Xabuusho will stand by their mother Ethiopia. Faqashta iyo kudaafada kale ha inoo dambeysee :lol:

Me and Yusuf will be on the frontline ASAP maalintu Abdifataax Sisi dagaal soo qaado.

lool . from political point of view Ethiopia is willing to share its cheap electricity with other east african countries including our country. Egypt has nothing to offer us, for that reason all somalis should support the project. I hate ethiopian domination in the region because we somalis must always have the same military strength as Ethiopia but I have nothing against the human life development of all east African countries. I want both xabashis and somalis to have better life standard.

Indeed, we should fight and prevent Ethiopian domination. However when it comes to continental problems, we should stand with Ethiopia against the desert dwellers.

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:34 pm
by samatar133
Liquidhyrogen
Sahal thinks that Egyptians are retarded like Somalis. During the dam building process, Ethiopia is not likely to divert large quantities of water to compel Egypt to take action, they are not stupid, they know the risk. And Egyptians are not going to attack the dam for no good and justified reason, simple as that.
Who needs your immature opinions when we got wikileaks confirming this!

This link attributes to the CIA

Dozens of jet fighters will target the dam at one time

Needs more advanced jets, this is why egypt is puying them

بوابة الصباح : توقعات أمريكية: مصر ستضرب إثيوبيا عسكرياً والعالم لن يعترض http://elsaba7.com/NewsDtl.aspx?Id=130959
Ninyow I will let you live in your fantasy world :up:

Citing an outdated wikileaks source dating back to 2010 is not a good way of supporting your argument.

You are taking the Egyptian bluff too serious, when nobody in his right mind thinks an attack on the renaissance dam is imminent.

It is not a new Thing that a country bluffs to put some sort of pressure on another and to signal how serious and concerned they are about the

issue of the contention. No intelligent person interprets every bluff literally. Netanyahu often holds press conferences threatening the destruction

of the Iranian nuclear facilities, no thinking person interprets that as an imminent Israeli attack on Iran.

Mida kale, if a country builds or prepares to build military bases in it's enemy's neighbouring countries ( as in the case of Egypt in South Sudan and

Eritrea), it is naive to assume that an attack will flow the minute its physically able to eliminate its targets. That is a very simplistic way of

thinking.

I haven't seen anything that makes me suspect that an Egyptian attack on the dam is imminent. And don't assume that I somehow prefer Ethiopia

to be strong and powerful in my backyard, increasing able to meddle with my affairs, I don't really wish that for Somaliland, but I don't live in a

fantasy world where I dream of Egypt doing the job for me.

Re: 2017, when ethiopia will be weakened by egypt

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:55 pm
by Cabay
Interesting.... my only question is, what would be Somalia's position if Egypt actually does what you have stated ? Sahal