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^^ You should read a book. The last legitimate government recognized 18 regions. This is basic stuff I don't want list.

18 = 5 (somaliland) plus 13 (somalia)

the old union that started in july 1 1960 doesnt exist anymore since 18 may 1991 fool

^^ You should read a book. The last legitimate government recognized 18 regions. This is basic stuff I don't want list.

18 = 5 (somaliland) plus 13 (somalia)

the old union that started in july 1 1960 doesnt exist anymore since 18 may 1991 fool

Yeah, like calling names would change anything

was only enlightening you through just a friendly jest mate nothing harmful

Enlightening me by calling me a fool!
BTW, as much as I want and support the Union, I have the at most respect and admiration for Somaliland, and won't degrade them because of some one like you.

How come hawiye can't make a single state so far?

Xawaalde has to choose a way one way or the other or does the SFG dastuur allow one region to be a federal state, or can one region be under the sfg directly , i can understand xawaadle does not want to be dominated by Abgaal since Abgaal is laandhere shabelede dhexe and Banadir region.

Abgaal isn't the concern, nor any clan in particular to be honest. It's the complexity of having practically half the clans in Somalia jumbled up into a federal constituency with an inclusion of Banadir. Combining any region with Banadir basically vaporizes it's influence and weight

Anyways, it's extremely unlikely that anybody is considering this let alone trying to implement it. As far as I know, the point of contention is whether or not the capital will be located in Middle Shabelle or Hiiraan....while some Reer Hiiraan on the other hand are contemplating on a stand alone stance. Nobody seems to really care about the presidency. That being said, I doubt there'll be any concrete proceedings on the final federal state before the Central State initiative is finalized.

Xawaalde has to choose a way one way or the other or does the SFG dastuur allow one region to be a federal state, or can one region be under the sfg directly , i can understand xawaadle does not want to be dominated by Abgaal since Abgaal is laandhere shabelede dhexe and Banadir region.

We can be a governorate controlled by the central govt just like now. Federalism applies to those who want to form a federal state not those who don't want it.

Its not actually abgaal whom we fear, xamar is not a stable region and there's a power struggle right now between mungaab and HG

You also got murursade who claim its westren half

Besides being sharing with many clans, its instability will effect us directly.

No. We will never go for this option

Ic, diplomats and igad r against it anyways.

this guy

Who is you? is Hiiraan Kenya? is Hiiraan Ethiopia or Djibout? what do you mean Muqdisho instability will effect us directly? Middle Shebelle is way way more stable than Hiiraan, Banadir Region is safer than Hiiraan, i think Banaadir and Middle Shabelle should be saying we don't want Hiiraan's instability.

sxb beenta umada ka dhaaf Muungaab waa Abgaal, Cid Abgaal Muqdisho ku qabsan karto oo ilaaheey ka aheen ma jiro.


ama HabarGidir nac ama ha nicin ogaaw even if Hiiraan splits and becomes it's own Maamul Gobaleed HabarGidir and many other clans will still share Hiiraan with you.

sxb magaca Hawiye nimo ayuu Xawaadle sharaf ku leeyahay, hadaan Xawaadle ahaan lahaa gacanta Abgaal oo i quudiso har iyo habeen ayaan shumin lahaa, Abgaal maantay jago Gudoomiye Degmo ayuu Muqdisho kaa sii yay, Abgaal maantay iyo shalayba Hiiraan asagaa xoreeyay, walaahi if Xawaadle doesn't show respect to Abgaal they will be looma ooyaan.

Moonlight, abti libaax baa tahay

Xawaalde has to choose a way one way or the other or does the SFG dastuur allow one region to be a federal state, or can one region be under the sfg directly , i can understand xawaadle does not want to be dominated by Abgaal since Abgaal is laandhere shabelede dhexe and Banadir region.

We can be a governorate controlled by the central govt just like now. Federalism applies to those who want to form a federal state not those who don't want it.

Its not actually abgaal whom we fear, xamar is not a stable region and there's a power struggle right now between mungaab and HG

You also got murursade who claim its westren half

Besides being sharing with many clans, its instability will effect us directly.

No. We will never go for this option

Ic, diplomats and igad r against it anyways.

this guy

Who is you? is Hiiraan Kenya? is Hiiraan Ethiopia or Djibout? what do you mean Muqdisho instability will effect us directly? Middle Shebelle is way way more stable than Hiiraan, Banadir Region is safer than Hiiraan, i think Banaadir and Middle Shabelle should be saying we don't want Hiiraan's instability.

sxb beenta umada ka dhaaf Muungaab waa Abgaal, Cid Abgaal Muqdisho ku qabsan karto oo ilaaheey ka aheen ma jiro.


ama HabarGidir nac ama ha nicin ogaaw even if Hiiraan splits and becomes it's own Maamul Gobaleed HabarGidir and many other clans will still share Hiiraan with you.

sxb magaca Hawiye nimo ayuu Xawaadle sharaf ku leeyahay, hadaan Xawaadle ahaan lahaa gacanta Abgaal oo i quudiso har iyo habeen ayaan shumin lahaa, Abgaal maantay jago Gudoomiye Degmo ayuu Muqdisho kaa sii yay, Abgaal maantay iyo shalayba Hiiraan asagaa xoreeyay, walaahi if Xawaadle doesn't show respect to Abgaal they will be looma ooyaan.

lol at abgaal liberating hawadle, hawadle is way stronger than abgaal!

Who liberated jowhar in 91? Wasn't there hawadle militia since the arrival of mohamed dheere in mid 90s?

Hawadle was securing jowhar as a region in the name of USC not as damac but after the split of the USC or with HG to be exact it didn't have that importance for us

Don't you know we controlled the whole madina and parts of waabari except suuq boocle

If abgaal were stronger than hawadle they would have liberated xamar!

Xataa lixda bilood oo adinka hiiraan joogteen our ahlu faal baa noo diiday and asked us to launch the attack after this time!

I'm not down playing abgaal but I refuse your theory of being stronger than hawadle

Selfe defense!

As for now there r a mix of SNA in jalalaqsi, we have over 1000 in lower shabelle and xamar too!

Yes hiiraan is more stable than the whole regions that r found south of it

Hiiraan was the last southen region al shabaab captured it and remember baladweyne was at once the only govt controlled area out of maka al mokarama road without foreing troops being there!

We have joined al shabaab willingly bc we found out the govt being useless and the other clans not cooperating with her so why only our boys will day for the govt?

Come down sxb I'm not against HG, all I meant was political

You guys can't agree on your own region so what do you think of sharing with you xamar?


Xamar stands right now as a clan capital or the somali capital and if it becomes an abgaal maamul goboleed we will go back to hiiraan!

we got now some posts like the secretary general-some adan warsame guy that i can recall his name- waabari district commissioner, police commander, airport director, some deputy district in madina

as Geo stated xamar is too much for us even will eat us economically!

if abgaal wants to share his 4 districts with our 5 districts we welcome this

anyways i doubt xamar will be part of this having knowing the IC backing hiiraan and middle shabelle.

Waa isku xaartay you cant even defeat small surre markasa abgaal isku compare gaareyne. grandeur delusion.

Waa isku xaartay you cant even defeat small surre markasa abgaal isku compare gaareyne. grandeur delusion.

lol
shirib aan idiin tirinay baa jire mar ay maanafeesto damacdey inay hub qaadato markaasaa laga soo qabtey cadale kkkk

It goes like this: awalba gardaraa o qaadatee-arms- iska geey wax saas ah LOOOOL

USC=HG+hawadle

Facts!.

How come hawiye can't make a single state so far?

Because no one wants federalism other then darood and enemies of somalia.

This ridiculous system is not going to work on a small country like somalia. It is going to be formally abandoned in the next few years

Sahal easy with the bravado mate. I'm not gonna say anything, what moonlight, a sacad man wrote is enough. Waa hadad ruunta rabtid lol.

Sahal easy with the bravado mate. I'm not gonna say anything, what moonlight, a sacad man wrote is enough. Waa hadad ruunta rabtid lol.

imam. Ok. Sorry if my words offeneded you.

I like moonlight, he's for unity and anti-instability.

Taliyaha Qeybta labada Shabeelle iyo Banaadir ee Ciidamada Dowlada Soomaaliya, Gen. Maxamed Maxamuud on Abgal Has liberated majority Of Hiiraan including bulo burde & jalaqsi & Maaxas.



Somali troops advancing - Photo HOL

Hiiraan Online
Monday, September 01, 2014
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Mogadishu, Somalia (HOL) - Somali troops alongside AMISOM have liberated the town of Jalalaqsi in Hiiraan region in central Somalia, army commander said.
General Mohamud Mohammed Hassan AKA " Qaafoow"

General Qaafoow, the commander of the 12th April battalion of the Somali national army which is part of the operation " Indian ocean" told the VOA Somali service that AMISOM and Somali troops.




Few month later the same Troops from Mogadishu are delivering Aid to Hiiraan lifting Alshaabab blockade .


General Maxamuud Maxamed Xasan (Qaafow) oo ka tirsan Saraakiisha Ciidanka Xooga Dalka, ayaa ku faanay inaanay Shabaabku lahayn itaal badan, oo ay ku horjoogsan karayaan Ciidanka Xooga Dalka iyo Xoogaga Midowga Afrika ee Somaliya.

Waa markii labaad oo gargaar ceynkani oo kala ah la gaarsiiyay Buulo Burde, tan iyo markii 14-kii bishii Maarso laga eryay Ururka Al Shabaab.