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Could those Oromos really be called Somalis though? Most Horn African tribes have lost huge numbers to the expanding Oromo, today those people self identify as Oromo.OD, we have created separate entities that number into the millions. We are a victim our own landhernimoSoph......A Dir friend once explained to me that Dir are the largest tribal grouping.
I was like.....are they playing hide and seek?
If you get a chance travel from Jijiga to Dire Dawa and make small talk with those 'Oromos'. Similarly, do the same with certain branches of the Digil and Mirifle.
OD, for Somalinet purposes, I will exclude your distant Reer Apti that Cali Dhuux spoke about in his poems.
MoAwr, next time you are at a wedding where heavyweights attend, ask them if you are Dir.
Estarix, not really, when they are in the North or among Somali speakers, they identify with their clan. The Barsuug, Gurgura, Jarso etc to this day have retained their Somali clan structure and the Oromos also attatch a different label to them. Haraghe Oromos are distinct in that respect, there is a differentiation between those who merely speak Oromo and those that are Oromo by bloodline.
Could those Oromos really be called Somalis though? Most Horn African tribes have lost huge numbers to the expanding Oromo, today those people self identify as Oromo.
Bloody idiots. However, I did find the horny thread quite funny.viewtopic.php?t=348764Drop the link!This thread is up there with the thread about which clans fast during Ramadan
As for this thread: I could careless what clan my acquaintance is from, as long as they're honest, trustworthy and funny.
Also a ranking of clans by how horny they are viewtopic.php?t=346903
Does this apply to all hararghe including the western ones whom by the way seem to dress extremely similarly to Somalis. Also are the akisho somalicized oromos? in regards to the gurgura who the hell becomes Oromo because of tensions with another clan (cise), you know the full story behind why they joined the Oromo gang.Estarix, not really, when they are in the North or among Somali speakers, they identify with their clan. The Barsuug, Gurgura, Jarso etc to this day have retained their Somali clan structure and the Oromos also attatch a different label to them. Haraghe Oromos are distinct in that respect, there is a differentiation between those who merely speak Oromo and those that are Oromo by bloodline.
Could those Oromos really be called Somalis though? Most Horn African tribes have lost huge numbers to the expanding Oromo, today those people self identify as Oromo.
We had a bit of them in Bari. It was a tradition within my subclan for the men to marry Dir women, but most of them have left Puntland for Somaliland, with a new qabil and name change to boot ( from Dir Rooble to Damal Muse -- HY).Never realized why you spread misinformation about them, then I realized they are a minority in your ends. However, the vast majority of them live in Somaliland, Djibouti and Ethiopia, which you have limited knowledge of. Face it Horseed, you live in a tribal container, see the world, familiarize yourself with Somalis outside of your family.
I cannot comment on all Hararghe Oromos. I am just aware that the ones in the vicinity of Harar all the way to Dire Dawa are a heterogeneous group. The Akisho were absorbed by the Oromos during the expansion. Some retained their Somali identiy like the Gurre in Afdheer zone, albeit, with some Oromo linguistic influences. The ones bordering the Somalis reverted back to their original identity after the Oromos were again pushed from Jijiga by a multitude of Somali clans. However, like the Jarso, many are Oromo speakers particularly in the disputed woredas that became part of the Oromo State.Does this apply to all hararghe including the western ones whom by the way seem to dress extremely similarly to Somalis. Also are the akisho somalicized oromos? in regards to the gurgura who the hell becomes Oromo because of tensions with another clan (cise), you know the full story behind why they joined the Oromo gang.
That clan you mentioned are Damal Muuse Carre, they reverted back to their traditional territories. They were called Dir Rooble by the MJ because when their ancestor arrived from Sanaag, rains followed. Hence, the name translating as Dir Roobka Keene. He left coastal Sanaag after a blood feud whereby he killed his uncle.
We had a bit of them in Bari. It was a tradition within my subclan for the men to marry Dir women, but most of them have left Puntland for Somaliland, with a new qabil and name change to boot ( from Dir Rooble to Damal Muse -- HY).
Like the way Mareexan is related to Gerikoombe. Not for tens of generations.Is Gadabursi related to Biyamaal?
How old is the Damal Muuse subclan?That clan you mentioned are Damal Muuse Carre, they reverted back to their traditional territories. They were called Dir Rooble by the MJ because when their ancestor arrived from Sanaag, rains followed. Hence, the name translating as Dir Roobka Keene. He left coastal Sanaag after a blood feud whereby he killed his uncle.
We had a bit of them in Bari. It was a tradition within my subclan for the men to marry Dir women, but most of them have left Puntland for Somaliland, with a new qabil and name change to boot ( from Dir Rooble to Damal Muse -- HY).
I know them very well because they used to pay blood money with my clan and one sub sub Surre clan still lives in Bari around Qandala, Iskushuban etc. These areas are not easily reached by car and are sparsely populated due to their size.
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