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Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:30 pm
by americanconfused
Hello,

Please pardon my ignorance on this topic. I work for a nonprofit in the U.S. and am trying to get information about Somali clans to help a Somali man being held in U.S. immigration detention.

This Somali is seeking asylum, and we are trying to help him get information to corroborate his claim. He is from the Aw Qudub subclan of the Shekhal/Sheikhal, from Mogadisuh. He says that his father was killed by Abgals. He also says that he became engaged with a woman from the Abgal subclan. The woman's family did not approve, and attacked or threatened him. He and his family fled to Ethiopia, and he wound up in the U.S. to seek protection from the situation.

I am trying to find information that he can present to corroborate his claim that there is conflict between the Aw Qudub and Abgal subclans in Mogadishu, or there has been in recent years, or that members of the Abgal would frown upon women from their subclan marrying a man from the Aw Qudub subclan.

Since I am completely ignorant about the politics and clan structures involved, it is very difficult to find such information, and the Somali in detention needs the information very soon. I am hoping someone from this forum might be able to help point me to helpful resources. Again, please excuse my unfamiliarity with this subject, and thank you for any help you might provide.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:22 pm
by TheblueNwhite
How much will you pay for the info?

You ain't getting info for free.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:12 am
by americanconfused
I don't have any money to pay for information - I work for a nonprofit who helps immigrant detainees for no charge, and am myself a law student.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:17 am
by Jugjugwacwac
Hi Americanconfused. Everything the man is telling you is the truth.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:21 am
by americanconfused
Hi Jugjugwacwac - do you happen to know anywhere I could find information that shows he is telling the truth? He needs to submit that information to the government to prove his claim. Any help you could provide would be much appreciated.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:34 am
by WaaliCas
He is lying to the system. Abgal don't even live in Somalia apart from the few that came to Mogadishu under the AMISOM mandate. They live in Uganda.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:43 pm
by SahanGalbeed
Sorry bro , hopefully somebody can help you

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:34 pm
by TheblueNwhite
This is bs. Lol

Dude, I don't buy your story.

Go to the library and do your research, visit Somali community centres and get them to recommend books on Somali clans.

Don't waste your time in here. You will not find the answers you are looking for.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:03 pm
by Halmog
He is lying to the system. Abgal don't even live in Somalia apart from the few that came to Mogadishu under the AMISOM mandate. They live in Uganda.
:dead:

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:41 pm
by bluelovelady
This is not a good place to get advice. People here joke around too much. It would probably help to know what town, and when that the incident occurred. Maybe a Somali translator could find an online article or radio broadcast. But death happens everyday in Somalia, so it does not always make the news, especially not if this happened during the war. Too many people were killed.

Maybe ask for a relative to give a written statement that is signed that the father is dead. As for the marriage threats, maybe get a written statement from his wife.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:17 pm
by sahal80
its not about the clans maybe her family dont like to marry stranger or wants for her a local boy

Some somali clans will kill you if you divorce their daughter

This situation exists in somalia

This site is full of trolls and is not the best place to get what you looking for.

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:25 am
by Itrah
He is lying to the system. Abgal don't even live in Somalia apart from the few that came to Mogadishu under the AMISOM mandate. They live in Uganda.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:dead:

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:08 pm
by GAMES
Trolololo...

Re: Looking for clan info to help a Somali in U.S.

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:35 am
by Advo
American confused, it's hard to get written articles about clan hostilities. The person claims to be from a small clan, Generally they were discriminated against unlike larger ones like abgaal, habargidir etc

I'll testify in his defense if u want me