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My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby TheblueNwhite » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:38 pm

blondes. Meh!
Blonde or not I still have my hair.


The fact that you were fuming with hate and I called you out on it. Hutus are the scum of the earth and don't even compare yourself to Rwandian hutus.
Hutus are scum I agree.

I have no idea what you are talking about. You are cute when you go on your blonde mode. You need more training in fadhikudirir for me to take you serious. You are just learning to walk now. So train harder munchkin. I like your drive so far.

Again, Hutus are scum.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby 26June1960 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:11 am

They went to Hargeisa, not Buhoodle. :lol:
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Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are the same ish. The same people/clan live in both cities.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby Jugjugwacwac » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:06 am

They went to Hargeisa, not Buhoodle. :lol:
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Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are the same ish. The same people/clan live in both cities.

Same clan, but different dialect and also slighty different culture so i wouldn't say they're the same ish.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby sadeboi » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:28 am

People who are using the plight of innocent people to take jabs at Somaliland should fear God. All Somalis knoow that the public of Somaliland did not agree with the minister's action. Let's stop it at that, the minister for whatever made a extremely bad decision and it was corrected.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby sadeboi » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:38 am

Also reer Somaliland, do not deny people their sincerity in doing good. You cannot tell me the wadaad in Bosaso who pleading to the Puntland masses to assist the poor people, as he cried, was disingenuous. Some pl politicians may have used it as PR, but the masses and wadaado of Puntland seemed genuine.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby 26June1960 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:52 am

Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are the same ish. The same people/clan live in both cities.

Same clan, but different dialect and also slighty different culture so i wouldn't say they're the same ish.
Slightly different culture? Could you please elaborate on this? First time I'm hearing this. :lol:

Dialect is irrelevant. It does not negate the fact that the people of Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are related by blood, thus they're the same ish.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby Jugjugwacwac » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:01 am

Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are the same ish. The same people/clan live in both cities.

Same clan, but different dialect and also slighty different culture so i wouldn't say they're the same ish.
Slightly different culture? Could you please elaborate on this? First time I'm hearing this. :lol:

Dialect is irrelevant. It does not negate the fact that the people of Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are related by blood, thus they're the same ish.
Though all Somalis generally share the same culture, there are some regional differences. The Dulbahante of Buuhoodle are part of the geeljire hawd culture. The people of Bosaaso are mostly reer magaal and/or fishermen and have few connections to the miyi and camel culture. Lets just say for war and suugaan i'm going with reer Buuhoodle, and for business and politics i'm going with reer Boosaaso. :lol:

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby 26June1960 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:41 am

Though all Somalis generally share the same culture, there are some regional differences. The Dulbahante of Buuhoodle are part of the geeljire hawd culture. The people of Bosaaso are mostly reer magaal and/or fishermen and have few connections to the miyi and camel culture. Lets just say for war and suugaan i'm going with reer Buuhoodle, and for business and politics i'm going with reer Boosaaso. :lol:
Two brothers can have two different life styles, one a farmer and the other as an owner of a business establishment. Does that mean they're not related or they're not the same ish? I see Buuhoodle, Boosaaso and even Garbaharrey as the same ish, inhabited by the same people.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby Jugjugwacwac » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:53 am

Two brothers can have two different life styles, one a farmer and the other as an owner of a business establishment. Does that mean they're not related or they're not the same ish? I see Buuhoodle, Boosaaso and even Garbaharrey as the same ish, inhabited by the same people.
I'm not denying that they're related. I'm just saying the different modes of lifving and the different environments produce some differences in culture. Thats why Dhulbahante share more with the Habar Jeclo and the eastern Habar Yoonis than they do with other Daaroods culturally speaking.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby 26June1960 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:17 pm

Two brothers can have two different life styles, one a farmer and the other as an owner of a business establishment. Does that mean they're not related or they're not the same ish? I see Buuhoodle, Boosaaso and even Garbaharrey as the same ish, inhabited by the same people.
I'm not denying that they're related. I'm just saying the different modes of lifving and the different environments produce some differences in culture. Thats why Dhulbahante share more with the Habar Jeclo and the eastern Habar Yoonis than they do with other Daaroods culturally speaking.
In the end of the day, my point was that Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are inhabited by the same clan. Blood is thicker than cultural differences, no.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby Jugjugwacwac » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:26 pm

In the end of the day, my point was that Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are inhabited by the same clan. Blood is thicker than cultural differences, no.
Actually Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa 'oodi ab ka wayn'. But I get ur point sxb.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby 26June1960 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:29 pm

In the end of the day, my point was that Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are inhabited by the same clan. Blood is thicker than cultural differences, no.
Actually Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa 'oodi ab ka wayn'. But I get ur point sxb.
You're making it seem like there is a sea between Dhulbahante and their Daarood cousins in Nugaal, Bari and Mudug. :lol:

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby Sophisticate » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:54 pm

In the end of the day, my point was that Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are inhabited by the same clan. Blood is thicker than cultural differences, no.
Actually Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa 'oodi ab ka wayn'. But I get ur point sxb.
You're making it seem like there is a sea between Dhulbahante and their Harti cousins of Nugaal, Bari and Mudug. :lol:
No. He's saying that clans have more commonalities with those they live closer to. Nothing more. Its like saying Habar Awal in the west have more in common with Gadabursi and Issa clans than they do with Issaqs in the East. There are micro-cultural variations among Somalis, even in Somaliland. This has nothing to do with kinship, its just a matter of proximity.

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby Jugjugwacwac » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:29 am


No. He's saying that clans have more commonalities with those they live closer to. Nothing more. Its like saying Habar Awal in the west have more in common with Gadabursi and Issa clans than they do with Issaqs in the East. There are micro-cultural variations among Somalis, even in Somaliland. This has nothing to do with kinship, its just a matter of proximity.
Exactly. :up:

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Re: My Belated Thoughts On The Berbera Fiasco

Postby 26June1960 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:43 pm

No. He's saying that clans have more commonalities with those they live closer to. Nothing more. Its like saying Habar Awal in the west have more in common with Gadabursi and Issa clans than they do with Issaqs in the East. There are micro-cultural variations among Somalis, even in Somaliland. This has nothing to do with kinship, its just a matter of proximity.
In my initial post, I said, "Buuhoodle and Boosaaso are the same ish. The same people/clan live in both cities.". My statement never had anything to do with micro-cultural variations, dialects and whatnot, which my friend Jugjugwacwac seemed to be hellbent on proving something that is irrelevant to my initial point. Furthermore, my initial post was also a response to a member that said the Somali refugees that arrived in Boosaaso from Yemen that were originally from Buuhoodle went to Buuhoodle. I said, there is no point for them to go to Buuhoodle, when Boosaaso is their home as well, due to both cities belonging to the same people/clan.


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