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Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby BlackRain » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:53 am

who will win beesha sacad vs beesha mj. my money is on sacad as they are better fighters who walk the walk unlike their rivals who talk the talk
YOU mean cumar mohamud vs Sacad? That's fair fight. Don't bring reer garowe, bossaso and reer galaadi and hawd to this fight. Cumar Mohamud and Sacad can settle it anytime anywhere but it's not the benefit for both clans to start wars. It was just two months ago when Galmdug president threatened to close the A/Yusuf Airport and gave cumar mohamud an ultimatum of 3 days. Turns out, he didn't walk the walk

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby Advo » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:24 am

You guys need to stop reacting to fake news article, swear all these fob websites love starting unnecessary feuds.

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby Buraanbur » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:38 am

I support Central State, Majeerteen can't have it both ways, they are the ones who introduced Federalism to Somalia, they are the ones who designed the Dastuur which has a condition that stipulates 2 provinces minimum for any mamuul. Now they are crying when Reer Central State say we need Mudug and Galgaduud.

It seems they shot themselves in the foot and will bear the consequences :pac:
Certain people have chosen to read the constitution in a way that fits their particular narrative, but the constitution does not say that a province can not be split in 1/2,1/4,1/8 etc. It states that a minimum requirement of 2 or more provinces must be met and whether Central State will be able to do so or not is none of Puntland's concern. They need all of Mudug for what? They can easily combine provinces with the Southern Hawiye and call it day. Northern Mudug is not up for discussion.

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby xirsi95 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:07 pm

The only other people other than Majeerteen that lived in Garacad side by side with us was Dir-Surre-Qubeys-Reer Agoon they're my ayeeyo AUN on my mom's sides qabiil and I'm Cabdi Ciise some are slowly returning because Majeerteen forgive but we'll always remember that they and Hawiye are brothers and they helped with surprise attacks on Garacad and Jariiban which killed dozens of my family. They are the only ones other than Majeerteen that can say they're Reer Garacad. If Sacad want a war know that the strongest of Cumar Maxamuud will fight armed to the teeth to the DEATH for their land, there aren't any naago living in Garacad you Moryaan we'll put down the fishing shamaag and bring the boats back in and we'll f-king massacre you, we will show you the true violence of the real Reer Mudug Waryaa.....Believe that.

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby Siciid85 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:04 pm

This must the brainchild of an infant, only thing this does is stir some more trouble.

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby Pwani » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:08 pm

Waarya xirsi take a chill pill awowga la shiidye.. And stop saying we shared shit with dir.. Garacad jariban or mudug is not up for grabs and none can do that.. Ciida raag ba leeh lahandonana e calm the fuck down!

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby xirsi95 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:33 pm

Waarya xirsi take a chill pill awowga la shiidye.. And stop saying we shared shit with dir.. Garacad jariban or mudug is not up for grabs and none can do that.. Ciida raag ba leeh lahandonana e calm the fuck down!
Waarya xirsi take a chill pill awowga la shiidye.. And stop saying we shared shit with dir.. Garacad jariban or mudug is not up for grabs and none can do that.. Ciida raag ba leeh lahandonana e calm the fuck down!
My Hoyoo's Reer Abti are dir and this is back when a bunch of clans lived together, wallahi I'm not lying. These clan wars started in the 80s because Afweyne started clan wars in Mudug by arming clans and massacres went down. There's even these people called Jaaji who originally were from different parts of Somalia(Some were Ciise Maxamuud,Habar Yoonis,Awrtable,etc)but during the Darwiish wars Sayiid Maxamed's Darwiish looted their xoolo and these people became penniless so they moved to the Sultanate of Hobyo's domain because he wasn't attacking there at the time. And these people came to be, I have a relative who's father was a descendant of a Habar Yoonis nomad and he was a fishermen at Garacad ask an Cabdi Ciise Oday or an Eedo who are Reer Garacad and not Reer Jariiban they'll tell you what's up, wallahi billahi I'm not lying. Garacad is owned by MJ but some dir still live there because they have Cabdi Ciise Hoyoo's and other relatives and they weren't involved in the xasuuq of Cumar Maxamuud.

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby Halmog » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:19 pm

Waarya xirsi take a chill pill awowga la shiidye.. And stop saying we shared shit with dir.. Garacad jariban or mudug is not up for grabs and none can do that.. Ciida raag ba leeh lahandonana e calm the fuck down!
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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby FarhanYare » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:20 pm

I support Central State, Majeerteen can't have it both ways, they are the ones who introduced Federalism to Somalia, they are the ones who designed the Dastuur which has a condition that stipulates 2 provinces minimum for any mamuul. Now they are crying when Reer Central State say we need Mudug and Galgaduud.

It seems they shot themselves in the foot and will bear the consequences :pac:
Can you blame them? cida idhinka ayaa ugu aqli badan beey is daheen :D

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby PrinceNugaalHawd » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:28 am

Xirsi you just mad 3 big Mistakes.

1. Called Mj land shared. :down:
2. Insulted the Sayid & Darawiish. :down:
3. Insulted Siyad Barre. :down:

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby xirsi95 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:39 pm

Xirsi you just mad 3 big Mistakes.

1. Called Mj land shared. :down:
2. Insulted the Sayid & Darawiish. :down:
3. Insulted Siyad Barre. :down:
Idgaf about the Sayiid and his Ogaden bullshit or Darwiish, fuck Afweyne, and my Reer Ayeeyo lived there and some still continue to live there you fuck you don't know shit about Garacad so don't say nothing, go take your land back from your overlord's Isaaq you Reer Wooqooyi Qaldaan fool Mudug doesn't concern you.
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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby xirsi95 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:50 pm

Majeerteen-Cumar Maxamuud-Cabdi Ciise own Garacad and Northeast mudug and its coastal land, I never said it was "shared" like some f-king Ceel Biyood. I'm just stating facts that Dir lived there in a large amounts many years ago, and still some continue to live there but most have moved to Golol,Ceel Dhanaane, Dhinowda. Tbh idk even know if any of you guys have ever stepped foot in Garacad, I was there last in the summer of 2013 and I saw that the majority of people there are Majeerteen-Cabdi Ciise but I also saw Liiban Gaashe,Awrtable, and guess f-king what DIR, specifically Reer Agoon my Reer Ayeeyo AUN. These other clans are remnants when Somalis used to live together and there wasn't as much clanism as before.

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby zumaale » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:22 pm

Niggas that ain't from Coastal Mudug trying to talk about deegans they know jack shit about.

Xirsi is right, the Mudug Saleeban Cabdallas (Reer Agoon, Reer Dabac) populate the coast south of Garcad all the way to Afbarwaaqo and the Golol Valley.

Before the clan wars, the borders between them and the Cumar Maxamud were fluid.

Now the Reer Agoon/Reer Dabac and Cabdi Ciise are on good terms but keep to their respective deegans.

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby BlueBlood » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:31 pm

zumaale sxb horta aan kula kaftameey dhulka ay dirta degto maad aragtay mise waad maqashay un..you seem to know alot about the geography..from hiiraan to galbeed ilaa jubooyinka to waqooyi and every corner ay dir degto :?

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Re: Centre state will Border Nugaal new Constitution

Postby zumaale » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:54 pm

zumaale sxb horta aan kula kaftameey dhulka ay dirta degto maad aragtay mise waad maqashay un..you seem to know alot about the geography..from hiiraan to galbeed ilaa jubooyinka to waqooyi and every corner ay dir degto :?
To answer your first question, I have never been back since the war. Most of what I know is general knowledge that a native of the deegan I am talking about would know about. I seek out elders and people who travel their frequently. Members of other qabils that neighbour us, Xirsi etc, also provide valuable insight into how the land is settled.

Bottom line, info can be easily found from clan structures to settlements if you seek it with gusto.


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