Mjland kills 9 innocent in Buuhodle for refusing to celebrate mj day

[Bandit]

Bandit,
So Isaaq don't normally settle in Laas Caanood, they basically behaved like settler colonists, to expand Somaliland? I can't believe they brought Habesha in...injirlay are used for every Somali issue, no wonder they never leave us alone, any Somali region will use them like a national army, disgusting.

Puntland ....why claim the land and not in 17 years elect someone from there to lead the whole region...is it to avoid a war with Somaliland, perhaps?

Why can't Warsangeli and Dhulbahante unite again? What happened to their allegiance?

Lool gedo girl politics is complicated game. There is no foreigners involved in this dispute between us puntland and dhuloos. and there are no isaaq settlement in lasanod city although isaaqs own 30% of Sool region. its very simple to understand

1.We Are a reer waqooyi based independent Republic.
2.puntlands wants harti based federal state
3. Khaatumo wants its pie of the federalism as a independent dhuloos state.

Each group is competing to have dhuloos in its side. khaatumo is the most supported among dhuloos diaspora but it has no military or economy muscle. puntland is the second most supported publicly inside and and among the diaspora community but same like Khaatumo puntland is weak actor militarily and economically.

Somaliland is the least supported publicly yet they control all Sool 5 districts. Somaliland is well organised militarily economically they also know how to deal each dhuloos function or subclan separately. its worth mentioning that dhuloos share no land with Majerten but they share all sool sanaag buhotle and beyond the border with the isaaqs. For that reason they have nothing to loose to stay away from punt land but they have more to suffer if they confront against isaaqs. Somalis say "OODI AB KA DHAW" some times clan link is ineffective against your next door clan. you know Saudi Arabia support for Palestine is ineffective against Israel. simply because Palestinians and Jews are are living in the same spot. an MJ can do nothing in erigabo same like saudis are nothing in juruslem or Qudus.

There is no 5 districts in sool did you forget how to count looking at the picture I posted earlier it seems you people control las anod capital with no control over places like Kalabaydh Widhwidh boocame
and telah capital with little presents in greater telah district
It seems you people control most of hudun but distruct capital.
so tell us all 5 districts you completely control?
of course am gonna mention anabo district since we don't even live there

[theyuusuf143]

This is an entertaining read

What I have learned so far

1.Somaliland biggest ambition As a state is to be always ahead of puntland. Not Ethiopia, no kenya, not even konfuria, just puntland. If puntland a budget is $10 million and somaland's budget is $10 million plus $1, somaliland goes home to sleep a happy nation

2. Dhulbahante/khatumo is like ball for the above two. Marna halkanaa loo tuuraa marna halkaasi depending on their mood.

3 dhulbante is the most divided qabiil in Somalia

4. Dhulbahante views both as enemies of its people



It's all up there. Don't bite me

The whole world is the same. don't look further just look at Eritrea vs Ethiopia. both rulers are from the exact ethnic group but they hate each an other like no other Africans. They spend billions on military while their people are hungry. They segregated their communities which is the reason Ethiopia is using Somali ports. at least we Somalis are not segregated economically.and there is no hate between us. political rivalry is not hate. in fact majeerten and dhuloos are our close brothers Somalis says "Maan rag waa muducyo afkood" we simply have different political ambitions. No hard feelings. neither MJ nor isaaq hates Dhuloos. in fact the main reason dhuloos cannot decide to stand one side is because they are a child with many caring brothers. It's hard to decide who is your best brother.

[Somaliman%]

Bandit,
So Isaaq don't normally settle in Laas Caanood, they basically behaved like settler colonists, to expand Somaliland? I can't believe they brought Habesha in...injirlay are used for every Somali issue, no wonder they never leave us alone, any Somali region will use them like a national army, disgusting.

Puntland ....why claim the land and not in 17 years elect someone from there to lead the whole region...is it to avoid a war with Somaliland, perhaps?

Why can't Warsangeli and Dhulbahante unite again? What happened to their allegiance?

Lool gedo girl politics is complicated game. There is no foreigners involved in this dispute between us puntland and dhuloos. and there are no isaaq settlement in lasanod city although isaaqs own 30% of Sool region. its very simple to understand

1.We Are a reer waqooyi based independent Republic.
2.puntlands wants harti based federal state
3. Khaatumo wants its pie of the federalism as a independent dhuloos state.

Each group is competing to have dhuloos in its side. khaatumo is the most supported among dhuloos diaspora but it has no military or economy muscle. puntland is the second most supported publicly inside and and among the diaspora community but same like Khaatumo puntland is weak actor militarily and economically.

Somaliland is the least supported publicly yet they control all Sool 5 districts. Somaliland is well organised militarily economically they also know how to deal each dhuloos function or subclan separately. its worth mentioning that dhuloos share no land with Majerten but they share all sool sanaag buhotle and beyond the border with the isaaqs. For that reason they have nothing to loose to stay away from punt land but they have more to suffer if they confront against isaaqs. Somalis say "OODI AB KA DHAW" some times clan link is ineffective against your next door clan. you know Saudi Arabia support for Palestine is ineffective against Israel. simply because Palestinians and Jews are are living in the same spot. an MJ can do nothing in erigabo same like saudis are nothing in juruslem or Qudus.

It's funny how you ended up comparing a somali brotherly issue to that of Jews and Palestinians.

Also mj do share land with dhulos as Nugaal borders sool.

[Somaliman%]

Prince N


Call me an outsider who watches all these dramas from outside. I am like the kenyawi or Ethiopia who sees Somalis fighting one another in that part of Somalia. The difference is, the kenyatti and habashi watch it with glee, I watch it with a pain in my heart. think of the habashi or kenyawi or cadanawi, it's all the same shit to him. You people give yourselves names like khatuumo, khabuulo, somaliland, puntland, buuqland instead of uniting. No one gives a shit

No need to feel pain, we're somalis and all these names jubaland, puntland, galmudug, even Khatumo are all federal states of somalia. This is the process of getting there, the problem is the peopld aren't educated on federalism and don't know how it works. It might look like division but atleast no qabil is holding a gun on another anymore. And all this territory bickering will blow over once the constitution is done and the federal states fully formed, even somaliland will come into fold by then.

so be hopeful federalism might be just the thing to save somalis. They will soon compete on which state is the most developed as with PL & SL already. Federalism like brazil or India. Somalia should've never been a unitary government.

[COOL-MAN]

Yussuf &somaliman

You have romanticized the whole thing

I wish and pray the reality on the ground agreed with What you said

Thanks for your input.

Do continue please...

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Somaliman I want nothing to do with a place where mjs take 60%.. simple we would love to know when you done that census.

And you think dhulos don't do nothing for our people and land? Lol

Gedogurl, as the idoor told you everyone wants a piece of the pie, the Isaaqs and us, xabaad baa Naga dhexeysa. And the so called daroods try to backstab us at every turn.

[mahoka]

Somaliman I want nothing to do with a place where mjs take 60%.. simple we would love to know when you done that census.

And you think dhulos don't do nothing for our people and land? Lol

Gedogurl, as the idoor told you everyone wants a piece of the pie, the Isaaqs and us, xabaad baa Naga dhexeysa. And the so called daroods try to backstab us at every turn.

Excuse me but what isaaq are you talking about, most isaaq don't know about darood let alone you. Just because subs of HJ and hy abuse you from time to time doesn't mean isaaq knows or cares about you

[Somaliman%]

Somaliman I want nothing to do with a place where mjs take 60%.. simple we would love to know when you done that census.

And you think dhulos don't do nothing for our people and land? Lol

Gedogurl, as the idoor told you everyone wants a piece of the pie, the Isaaqs and us, xabaad baa Naga dhexeysa. And the so called daroods try to backstab us at every turn.

I never said you don't develop your land I said peace will help the progress, hadalka dhinac xuun ha u jeedin.

cuqdad ma fiicna walal. If you don't want puntland that's fine just clear your land of somaliland and focus on khatumo or fully join PL so we can sort SL as a union once and for all.

Get your people on the same page, PL will be first to support khatumo state just like we supported the creation of jubaland but the dhulos need to have a huge conference and sort their shit out.

We're trying to help and your accusing us of backstabbing,

[cheifaqilbari]

^ Are Majerteen really somali brothers how many times has Majerteen stap the somali people in the back , they Majerteen sawqroon did so manny massacres In Sanaag when the afweyne army was killing isaks , they mjs killers fled when the National.Movent came to sanaag they knew the countless crimes to the Northern majority issaq civilians they did so many mass graves are found and amnesty international has reported.hundreds of cases . another example in 2010 abdullhi yusuf became president be killed 10 of thousands of Hawiye civilians when asked why him and his alliances the ethiopians army was indiscriminately shelling moqadisho with heavy guns into civilians areas he said it was a payback darood vs hawiye war. And as Darood man he wanted to take revenge on haiwye as a result more than a million people civilians was forced to go to Celesha biyaha to safety and many hawiye came to Somaliland to fled for safety where they were welcomed as somali brothers and sisters but also because Somalilanders remember how it was being refugees in the 80 and 90s. Even today the reason why they south can not have a government is because majertenia do not accept a second place to.hawiye president so MJ first minister will always fight the president and have the collapse of the entire cabinet. Today the biggest problem Haiywe and the southrn dir has is kismayo where the Mjs has send in Ethiopiaogaden to claim a region where they dont form the majority and have a harti ruling kismayo when that collapse the Mjs will run and sell the Ogadenis and ahmed marobe u will see. MJ is a little clan that will bite the dust and swallow their arrogance but their cimes against somali pu ill not be easily forgotten.

[Bandit]

Somaliman I want nothing to do with a place where mjs take 60%.. simple we would love to know when you done that census.

And you think dhulos don't do nothing for our people and land? Lol

Gedogurl, as the idoor told you everyone wants a piece of the pie, the Isaaqs and us, xabaad baa Naga dhexeysa. And the so called daroods try to backstab us at every turn.

Excuse me but what isaaq are you talking about, most isaaq don't know about darood let alone you. Just because subs of HJ and hy abuse you from time to time doesn't mean isaaq knows or cares about you

Well if you don't care about dhulbahante why the fuck are you in a thread title buuhodle?
I doubt all the isaaq who comment on dhulbahante threads come from one section of isaaq I personally don't care all you look the same to me

[Xildiiid]

Bandit,

Stop lying to Gedo_Girl.

The original Sanaag region was divided into 3 districts and 2 districts belonged to Isaaq (HJ & HY respectively) and 1 district belonged to Warsangeli. That was before Afweyne added 2 more districts in favor of Darood while at the same time trying to exterminate Isaaq from their ancestral land. At that time, he carved Awdal out of Waqooyi Galbeed and Sool out of Togdheer. Sanaag being the first region to be carved out of Togdheer. The main goal was to minimize Isaaq dominance.

Nonetheless, Dhulbahante doesn't have a single district and thy have only 2 towns they can claim as theirs and that is Fiqifuliye and Awrbogays. Your clans arrival to Ceerigaabo is recent as well. Before 1960 there was only 1 Dhulbahante by the name of Dahir Af Qudhac living in Ceerigaabo as Inan La Yaal meaning he lived in that city under the protection of his wife's clan and she belonged the native Uduruxmiin (HJ-Isaaq)

Cool-Man,

How can Somaliland, as an unrecognized country, compete with Ethiopia and Kenya? We would love to develop our country but our main obstacle is Somalis from Somalia who can't grasp the simple fact that Somaliland was and is the first Somali country to gain independence. Once they accept that fact, I think a lot of them will support Somaliland but right now they're afraid that we will outshine them as a qabiil (that's how they view Somaliland i.e Somaliland = Isaaq) and they're doing everything to stop Somaliland from regaining its long lost sovereignty. To give you an example, after the first election in Somaliland in 1997, the warlords fighting in Somalia claimed Cigaal was one of them and that the election was a bluff.

NugaalNomad,

What Isaaq are you fighting?

Is it Cidagalle, Arap, HA, Ayub, Toljeclo?

Your clan fights 2 sub sub sub clans of HJ and 2 sub sub sub clans of eastern HY.

Your clan does not border western HY or HJ, or the ones that live along the coast that still control the Frankincense/Myrrh trade.

So cut the crap. You're not fighting Isaaq but the state of Somaliland. If you were fighting Isaaq you would vacate Sanaag and Buhoodle like you did in 91 and you would beg for peace like your elders did in Las Canood in 93.

[mahoka]

Bandit,

Stop lying to Gedo_Girl.

The original Sanaag region was divided into 3 districts and 2 districts belonged to Isaaq (HJ & HY respectively) and 1 district belonged to Warsangeli. That was before Afweyne added 2 more districts in favor of Darood while at the same time trying to exterminate Isaaq from their ancestral land. At that time, he carved Awdal out of Waqooyi Galbeed and Sool out of Togdheer. Sanaag being the first region to be carved out of Togdheer. The main goal was to minimize Isaaq dominance.

Nonetheless, Dhulbahante doesn't have a single district and thy have only 2 towns they can claim as theirs and that is Fiqifuliye and Awrbogays. Your clans arrival to Ceerigaabo is recent as well. Before 1960 there was only 1 Dhulbahante by the name of Dahir Af Qudhac living in Ceerigaabo as Inan La Yaal meaning he lived in that city under the protection of his wife's clan and she belonged the native Uduruxmiin (HJ-Isaaq)

Cool-Man,

How can Somaliland, as an unrecognized country, compete with Ethiopia and Kenya? We would love to develop our country but our main obstacle is Somalis from Somalia who can't grasp the simple fact that Somaliland was and is the first Somali country to gain independence. Once they accept that fact, I think a lot of them will support Somaliland but right now they're afraid that we will outshine them as a qabiil (that's how they view Somaliland i.e Somaliland = Isaaq) and they're doing everything to stop Somaliland from regaining its long lost sovereignty. To give you an example, after the first election in Somaliland in 1997, the warlords fighting in Somalia claimed Cigaal was one of them and that the election was a bluff.

NugaalNomad,

What Isaaq are you fighting?

Is it Cidagalle, Arap, HA, Ayub, Toljeclo?

Your clan fights 2 sub sub sub clans of HJ and 2 sub sub sub clans of eastern HY.

Your clan does not border western HY or HJ, or the ones that live along the coast that still control the Frankincense/Myrrh trade.

So cut the crap. You're not fighting Isaaq but the state of Somaliland. If you were fighting Isaaq you would vacate Sanaag and Buhoodle like you did in 91 and you would beg for peace like your elders did in Las Canood in 93.

Bro don't sink to their level and lies, they will take you with them

[theyuusuf143]

Yussuf &somaliman

You have romanticized the whole thing

I wish and pray the reality on the ground agreed with What you said

Thanks for your input.

Do continue please...

That's the reality Dhulooska inyar oo qurbaha joogta mooyee inta kale way iska laba canlaynayaan nimcatu fashuukh bay iskaga jiraan. askari 5 mushahar qaata buuhoodle uunbaa laga helaa. mushaharka Somaliland ka puntland ka kililka ka qurbajoogta khaatumo ka federal ka marku new deal ku soo dhacaba lool. Adigu hadii aad intaaba tuuladaada laguugu keenayo xaga badan oo aad u xagliso mooyee xagna ma ka tegi lahayd. kkkk.

anagu meesha kooramka ictiraafkaanu ku buuxsanaynaa ilaahaybaana iskaayo baday dhuloos oo dhulkaanu wada leenahay xitaa federalkay u ordayaan waanu ku wada jirnaa wekigayo yeeli mayno in dhulos iyo habarjeclo xuduud lakala dhex dhiho. kk. khaatumo yaga dabaysha federalkaa jiidhay gobol iyo nuska galmudug baa waalay . mejeerteenku waxaan khasaare ahayn kuma qabaan meesha hartinimadaa madax martay.

yaga iyo dhuloos ilaahay isma badin oo isku gobolo iyo degmooyin maaha xitaa geeloodu ma wada daaqo sool iyo sanaag midna. dhul dhulbahante leeyahay majeerteen mana xujumo mana cashuuro. xitaa gaaladu midh uma soo marsiiso garowe. weliba waxay shaqo abuur u sameeyeen dhulbahante intii ugu liidatay ee bilaa skills ka ahaa sida madax dhaqameedka iyo siyaasi nacaska axmed karaash iyo xaabsadoo miidhan ah.

[Bandit]

Bandit,

Stop lying to Gedo_Girl.

The original Sanaag region was divided into 3 districts and 2 districts belonged to Isaaq (HJ & HY respectively) and 1 district belonged to Warsangeli. That was before Afweyne added 2 more districts in favor of Darood while at the same time trying to exterminate Isaaq from their ancestral land. At that time, he carved Awdal out of Waqooyi Galbeed and Sool out of Togdheer. Sanaag being the first region to be carved out of Togdheer. The main goal was to minimize Isaaq dominance. what the fuck does this have to do anything? The siyaad barre created regions are the bases to create states in somalia now

do you know how to read I said there was 3 districts in sanaag but yet here you are making bs about 5 districts



Nonetheless, Dhulbahante doesn't have a single district and thy have only 2 towns they can claim as theirs and that is Fiqifuliye and Awrbogays. Your clans arrival to Ceerigaabo is recent as well. Before 1960 there was only 1 Dhulbahante by the name of Dahir Af Qudhac living in Ceerigaabo as Inan La Yaal meaning he lived in that city under the protection of his wife's clan and she belonged the native Uduruxmiin (HJ-Isaaq)
here you again making up something where did I say Dhulbahante owns a district in sanaag? Let me say what I said again the middle district is shared by isaaq Warsangeli and Dhulbahante so let me ask you question are you saying am lying and that no Dhulbahante lives in the middle district?

Cool-Man,

How can Somaliland, as an unrecognized country, compete with Ethiopia and Kenya? We would love to develop our country but our main obstacle is Somalis from Somalia who can't grasp the simple fact that Somaliland was and is the first Somali country to gain independence. Once they accept that fact, I think a lot of them will support Somaliland but right now they're afraid that we will outshine them as a qabiil (that's how they view Somaliland i.e Somaliland = Isaaq) and they're doing everything to stop Somaliland from regaining its long lost sovereignty. To give you an example, after the first election in Somaliland in 1997, the warlords fighting in Somalia claimed Cigaal was one of them and that the election was a bluff.

NugaalNomad,

What Isaaq are you fighting?

Is it Cidagalle, Arap, HA, Ayub, Toljeclo?

Your clan fights 2 sub sub sub clans of HJ and 2 sub sub sub clans of eastern HY.

Your clan does not border western HY or HJ, or the ones that live along the coast that still control the Frankincense/Myrrh trade.

So cut the crap. You're not fighting Isaaq but the state of Somaliland. If you were fighting Isaaq you would be vacating Sanaag and Buhoodle like you did in 91 and you would beg for peace like your elders did in Las Canood in 93.

Dhulbahante warsangali and isaaq the buuhoodle district is part of togdhere region which is dominated by isaaqof the four sool districts 3 are owned by Dhulbahante telah, xudun, las anod the anabo district of sool is owned by isaaqnow sanaag has 3 districts the western district is all isaaq the middle is combination of warsangali isaaq and Dhulbahante the east district is strictly owned warsangali

so kindly please point where I said there is 5 districts in sanaag?
Or where I said Dhulbahante owns a district in sanaag?

[Somaliman%]

Yussuf &somaliman

You have romanticized the whole thing

I wish and pray the reality on the ground agreed with What you said

Thanks for your input.

Do continue please...

That's the reality Dhulooska inyar oo qurbaha joogta mooyee inta kale way iska laba canlaynayaan nimcatu fashuukh bay iskaga jiraan. askari 5 mushahar qaata buuhoodle uunbaa laga helaa. mushaharka Somaliland ka puntland ka kililka ka qurbajoogta khaatumo ka federal ka marku new deal ku soo dhacaba lool. Adigu hadii aad intaaba tuuladaada laguugu keenayo xaga badan oo aad u xagliso mooyee xagna ma ka tegi lahayd. kkkk.

anagu meesha kooramka ictiraafkaanu ku buuxsanaynaa ilaahaybaana iskaayo baday dhuloos oo dhulkaanu wada leenahay xitaa federalkay u ordayaan waanu ku wada jirnaa wekigayo yeeli mayno in dhulos iyo habarjeclo xuduud lakala dhex dhiho. kk. khaatumo yaga dabaysha federalkaa jiidhay gobol iyo nuska galmudug baa waalay . mejeerteenku waxaan khasaare ahayn kuma qabaan meesha hartinimadaa madax martay.

yaga iyo dhuloos ilaahay isma badin oo isku gobolo iyo degmooyin maaha xitaa geeloodu ma wada daaqo sool iyo sanaag midna. dhul dhulbahante leeyahay majeerteen mana xujumo mana cashuuro. xitaa gaaladu midh uma soo marsiiso garowe. weliba waxay shaqo abuur u sameeyeen dhulbahante intii ugu liidatay ee bilaa skills ka ahaa sida madax dhaqameedka iyo siyaasi nacaska axmed karaash iyo xaabsadoo miidhan ah.

Walahi I had to laugh your genuinely hilarious,