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Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

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Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby TheMightyNomad » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:42 pm

A Necessary Foundation

Reconciliation is the foundation that is yet to be built for sustainable peace to materialize. Somalia is a broken nation that is handicapped by a generation long bloodshed and trauma.

Contrary to the conventional wisdom of Somalia’s political elite and power brokers, reconciliation is not made up of powwows, artificial communiques, and photo opportunities in banquet halls. Rather, it is a deliberate and a systematic process driven by a comprehensive strategic plan fully understood and implemented by the Somali people.

Reconciliation is necessary as it deflates the hateful narrative that sustains inter-clan distrust and enmity. It opens a new page for negotiating the terms of a social contract that will allow for co-existence. It enables the center and the peripheries to recognize their interdependence. It plays a significant role in teaching future generations that impunity and the habit of sweeping problems under rugs only makes matters worse. It sets in motion a genuine process of repairing our broken nation.

Finally, reconciliation is a critical post-conflict element necessary for healing and trust-building; it is a noble objective and a process that takes time. Neither its pace nor its broad impact could be rushed for political expedience.

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby GAMES » Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:41 pm

Actually, things are going in the right direction. Sure there still still political disagreements, terrorism, disputes about land.

But if you Zoom Out and look at the bigger picture, things are actually looking up.

The Federal System is the best way to go.

It also helps when there are over 1 Million Somalis living outside of the country they were born, who follow politics and act like sort of Checks and Balances.

Every small thing is broadcasted to a wider audiences.

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby TheMightyNomad » Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:41 pm

Actually, things are going in the right direction. Sure there still still political disagreements, terrorism, disputes about land.

But if you Zoom Out and look at the bigger picture, things are actually looking up.

The Federal System is the best way to go.

It also helps when there are over 1 Million Somalis living outside of the country they were born, who follow politics and act like sort of Checks and Balances.

Every small thing is broadcasted to a wider audiences.
i whole heartedly disagree my friend

Federalism is clan balkanization and it has come to destroy us an already ailing nation by keeping us in a state of perpetual dependency and subjugation

Make no mistake, the most serious existential threat facing the somali nation is the status quo.

Any time that peripheries resort to entering into international relatiosnhips that first and foremost serve the elite, haphazardly signing agreeements with foreing countries and building clan militaries, they make the recovery of the state an increasingly impossible task.

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby FAH1223 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:04 am


i whole heartedly disagree my friend

Federalism is clan balkanization and it has come to destroy us an already ailing nation by keeping us in a state of perpetual dependency and subjugation

Make no mistake, the most serious existential threat facing the somali nation is the status quo.

Any time that peripheries resort to entering into international relatiosnhips that first and foremost serve the elite, haphazardly signing agreeements with foreing countries and building clan militaries, they make the recovery of the state an increasingly impossible task.
Somalis want the status quo. They want clan fiefdoms as states and in some cases independent states.

The only way to change it is to model the system after the Swiss as gurey has mentioned numerous times on here.

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby original dervish » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:13 pm

he status quo is better than anything that went before. :)

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby HayWire » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:00 pm

I am all for status quo, so my HAG people can
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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

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i whole heartedly disagree my friend

Federalism is clan balkanization and it has come to destroy us an already ailing nation by keeping us in a state of perpetual dependency and subjugation

Make no mistake, the most serious existential threat facing the somali nation is the status quo.

Any time that peripheries resort to entering into international relatiosnhips that first and foremost serve the elite, haphazardly signing agreeements with foreing countries and building clan militaries, they make the recovery of the state an increasingly impossible task.
Somalis want the status quo. They want clan fiefdoms as states and in some cases independent states.

The only way to change it is to model the system after the Swiss as gurey has mentioned numerous times on here.
Every Federal system you can think of will become clan based. The best thing was to make more states with less power. US has 51!
A unitary decentralized system in which citizen rights--not clan rights--are constitutionally guaranteed.

This system will fit with the indegenous somali legal laws Xeer which is costumized for decentralized governance. these idiotic poltical stouges are trying to force a centralized system around a legal system fit decentralized governance. it does not work, it is stupid

Clan should be seperated from politics and given its own space where they can discuss and facilitate such matter. Clan and politics is a deadly mix.

Somalis have tried to super impose every foreign system and doctorine instead of reinforcing their own system and creating their own strategy.

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby theyuusuf143 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:06 pm

kid clans are the actual states. Somalia did not existed when majertenia was sultanate. Somalia was created yesterday just 55 years ago. Clans existed centuries .

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby TheMightyNomad » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:02 am

kid clans are the actual states. Somalia did not existed when majertenia was sultanate. Somalia was created yesterday just 55 years ago. Clans existed centuries .
im not against clan i am just advocating that we should seperate it from politics and give it its own section or system where people can discuss such matters and deal with clan problems effectively.

For some Neighbor States like Ethiopia and Kenya it is a Strategy for defeating the Pan-Somali Dream. "The smaller pieces of a pie are easier to eat it"
Many historians of Somalia are convinced that Tribal community political ideologies only developed in contact with the European ‘thinking about tribes’ which the missionaries and colonial officers brought to Somalia.

Early 19Th Century Colonialism drew borders which did not exist and threw together Somali people who would ordinarily have lived together into one Somali nation and nationality. During the colonial era, the Europeans used various approaches to dominate the Somali tribes. In varying degrees, the French, British and Italians tried to transform the Somalis into five colonial regions in Horn of Africa (NFD, Ogadenia, French Djibouti, British Colonial and Italian Colonial).

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Re: Somalia Can Have no 'Political Legitimacy' without Genuine Reconciliation

Postby Halmog » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:49 pm

:blessed: Complete balkanization is needed, the hell with reconciliation and pan somali bs. We can reconcile as neighboring nations and work towards mutual interests.


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