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Xamud

To put things in perspective, look at the following Woredas population figures and you will observe that land does not equal numbers.

You argued that Galadi has a larger population than Awbarre. The official figures contradict your assertion. The entire Wardheer Zone has a population of 338, 596 people whilst Awbarre Woreda alone has a population of 365,998 people yet you want to compare Awbarre Woreda with Galadi Woreda. Galadi Woreda has a total population of 108, 225. Even the Gurre Woredas in Afdheer Zone have a larger population than Galadi Woreda as a whole bro.

The Ciise still have a large presence in Ethiopia, Djibouti is their main metropole but Shinile is their main deegan and Dire Dawa is their second metropole that their share control of with the bilingual Gurgura Dir. The city proper has a population of 600,000 and despite its cosmopolitan nature the Ciise still exceed the 100,000 mark there. Shinle Zone has a population exceeding 400, 000 as you can see on the link I have provided. Hence, Ciise are by no means restricted to Djibouti as you assume bro.

Xamud, Dir are not a clan in the strict sense of the word. Some have acquired an independent status such as the Isaaq. Some have dual identities like the Gurgura and Quranyow Maxamed. However, if we are to count all clans that are Dir by tradition, there is no debate as to their numerical strength. Some clans you have never come across or heard of such as the Garire, Gurre, Bajamal, Obo, Mandalug when combined number in the hundreds of thousands in K5 yet they do not figure in population estimations of the Dir clan that most people are familiar with. Even my own Surre clan that dominate Dolobay Woreda of Afdher Zone are not traditionally associated with K5.

http://www.csa.gov.et/images/general/ne ... 2017_final

Xamud with all due respect that difference between MJ and Gadabursi ain't that large. Forget even about Ciise.

Awbare Woreda has a population of approximately 350, 000 and Awdal has a population that exceeds 600, 000 according to the latest UN estimate for Somali provinces. Combined with their significant presence in Djibouti and Shinile Zone, they are not that far off a million.

My subclan of MJ is probably the same size as Gadabursi. Forget about Gaalkacyo iyo Borama, tell me one Gadabursi town as large as Burtinle

Ciyaarta masajidka ka daa

I can present evidence to prove the opposite can you?

Let look at stats son. I am all yours.

Did u pull this ish from ur arse...there are more reer Hassan in Libaan zone than in Somalia..and who the eff are boraan..the laangaab gudhus?

Abaayo, look at any unbiased academic accounts of Liben Zone and NGO reports, it is an established fact that the Reer Xassan are a minority in Liben Zone and particularly after the Borans split Negelle from Somali K5.

I can't trust your stats, According to the stats you posted we can't even discuss Ethiopia.

Awbarre Woreda: 438,000
Godey Zone: 601,000

I can't trust your stats According to the stats you posted we can't even discuss Ethiopia.

Awbarre Woreda: 438,000
Godey Zone: 601,000

Unless the Tigre regime is controlled by Illuminati Dirs I see no reason why they would be biased towards Gadabursis . Sorry son but those stats are from the Ethiopian Central Government.

Has the TheGoodShepherd Institute for Darood Studies done a census?

Majeeerten second largest darood nambaroododa waa lagu qasaaray wayo a sub sub clan of hg bey iska dici waayeen and had to call on ethio. Mareexaan habargidir lama eeko ee huuhaada meesha kala taga

Gobolka Liibaan

Big players: Degodia, Garre , Gurre (Dir) and Marexaan.

Garre is confederation , some are Quranyow Mahe Dir, some are Raxanweyn and some are Hawiye.

Bro, Garre split strictly into two parts, Tuf and Quranyow. Tuf are neither Hawiye or Raxanweyn. They are related to Galjeecel and Degoodis in belonging to Gardheere Samaale according to their oral history. Quranyow (religious nickname) Maxamed Xiniftere Maha Dir was a Wadaad who married Tufs daughter and that is how the two became alligned. Gunther Schlee did a lot of research on the Garres and his findings also support their oral abtirsi. Only in the South do they come under the Raxanweyn confederation due to their isolation from other Garres and assimilation into the Digil umbrella. The Garres in Mandheera district are mostly Quranyow whilst the ones in Moyaale/Marsabit are Tuf.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_8D ... ir&f=false

The following is an abtirsi submitted to James Dahl by a Digil Garre Quranyow individual.

http://www.abtirsi.com/forum/viewtopic. ... irsiLang=1

The majority clans in Liben Zone are Garre and Degoodi like Armaan stated but you have a minority of Mareexan, Garrimari, Gurre and other smaller clans. The Mareexan Rer Xassan and Gurre in Liben Zone were displaced from Negelle by the Boran and most Reer Xassans have crossed the border into Gedo; they now dominate Luuq town. The Gurres have also migrated in large numbers to their exclusive woredas in Guradamole and Goro Bekeksa in Afdher Zone. Gurres are actually a subclan of Akisho.

Marsin is right in highlighting that Mareexans also have deegans in Shilabo Woreda.

Did u pull this ish from ur arse...there are more reer Hassan in Libaan zone than in Somalia..and who the eff are boraan..the laangaab gudhus?

Mareehan iyo hg isku facmahaan sxb. probably same size as cayr. Habargidir is nearly the same size as abgaal marka hadaad mareexaan tiri habargidir bey isku facyihiin essentially u said mareexan and abgal are same size

This Inbreed

Sadeboi how dare u compare us with laagabs iyo wax la aqoon ..the inbred farhan oo kale nagu af baraysa:snoop:

We are the 7 districts in gedo...majority in kismaayo,..majority in mudug/galgadud, majority in columbus ohio, majority in Seattle, majority in Lesta, got Somalia Ethiopia on lock.
About 75% of properties in mogadhishu are owned by marehans..about 4 out of 10 Somalis are marehan.

Somalidu waa marehan iyo ba'ba.

Allow Marehanka dhowr. Allow maxdoyanimada reer koshin ku so celi

Laangabs down
Peasants down
Minorities iyo wax la aqoon down

Warsheikh salaanda waa laga qaaday..but from now on I am gonna be side eyeing u..u have something against the besha barakaysan.

Awoowe Macaan i got mad love for Bah Darandoole.

Unless the Tigre regime is controlled by Illuminati Dirs I see no reason why they would be biased towards Gadabursis . Sorry son but those stats are from the Ethiopian Central Government.

Has the TheGoodShepherd Institute for Darood Studies done a census?

No one takes the Awbarre number seriously, the only way it can be possible is if they included the refugees. There is literally nothing there.

Unless the Tigre regime is controlled by Illuminati Dirs I see no reason why they would be biased towards Gadabursis . Sorry son but those stats are from the Ethiopian Central Government.

Has the TheGoodShepherd Institute for Darood Studies done a census?

No one takes the Awbarre number seriously, the only way it can be possible is if they included the refugees. There is literally nothing there.

It is 2015, no refugees there anymore.

Take your concerns to the Central Statistical Agency of Ethiopia and ask them to review the figures as it does not sit well with you.

Smile,
Am not inbred it was a joke. But if I was I would still be contempt with it. If we are langaab why does every darood clan anaga na faceystaan. Recently it waz ogaden, who can forget majeerteen sending in ethiopian, and u got the duloz beefin with northern cayr. If it makes all of yall sleep well rer jamac yasin baa isku facnahay. Subax wanagsan am off

All I'm saying is that comparing Gadabursi and MJ is disingenuous when MJ is the largest subclan within the borders of Somalia. Most likely followed by Mudulood.

MJ has always hovered at around 10% to 15% of the total population.

All I'm saying is that comparing Gadabursi and MJ is disingenuous when MJ is the largest subclan within the borders of Somalia. Most likely followed by Mudulood.

MJ has always hovered at around 10% to 15% of the total population.

Was I just discussing Somalia? Bring Ethiopia/Djibouti into it and the differences are not as great as you make them out to be.

As for the former Somali Republic, without doubt, the Isaaq are the largest clan.

You guys must have been looking at those propagandized maps and have been dreaming or chewing khat. Don't get confused Majerteen is not only Puntland, there are many Harti chunks in Bari, then there is Dir clans and the Awrtable and Leelkase.

Majeertenia was coined because of their sultanate and them being the biggest sub-clan there, that I can agree with, but 1/3 of Somalia lol you must be dreaming.

They do not make 1/3 of Somalia's population. Impossible since in the CIA propagandized clan map you guys so love, Darood in Somalia borders made up 20% and and Hawiye was the most populous in Somalia with 25%, then how can Majerteen be 1/3 of Somalia without the rest of the Darood in the borders of Somalia.


Ogaden cover like 40-45% of Kilinka Shanaad , they are the biggest sub-clan there. I think it was Haile Selasie who coined the word the Ogaden first for the geographical location, laying claim to Ogaden clan lands and coming in contact with the Ogaden first.


Also if I can remember right, the Ogaden region was smaller in the past and didn't make up most of DDSI that we have now, but the name stuck even though most of the reserve areas were incorporated into Ethiopia.

I'll have to find that old map again, the dark orange area is what they mostly referred to for the Ogaden and that was understandable and the coined name stuck for all the Somali regions in Ethiopia along with the rise of the MOD regime of Siad Barre.


the old map looked something like this

Also the reason why the ONLF was a failed rebel group.



Majority of Gadabuursi live in DDSI and as I said refugee count, doesn't mean one clan is more populous than the other.





Awdal a total of 673, 263, while most Gadabuursi live in Ethiopia and that's a known fact. Keep in mind in Puntland that there are a big chunk of refugees, other Hartis, Awrtable, Leelkase and some Dirs there too.

To you guys a bigger land equals a bigger population. lol If that was the case Russia would have a bigger population than China and we all know the truth.

Gadabuursi go all the way to Harar and beyond, have a chunk of land and population in Waqooyi Galbeed, Jigjiga Woreda, Shinile Woreda and are exclusive to Denbel. Without a doubt Gadabuursi is in the million and Beesha Direed in the millions.


The damage done by Zumaale, yaa Allah! Awbere bigger than Wardheer Zone. Geladin zone he said.



You can look some at older population/woreda censuses and Zumaale will still be right.

Abdullahi yusuf was a person who incited hate and violence I am glad I am not him, GL mr pig liver.

zumaale
The average Somali would probably mistake Quraanyow, Gurgura, Garire, Bajamal and Quraanyow with towns or districts, kuwa Bajamal cuunto moodi laha I like to think that I'm very well versed in Somali tribes and I have never heard of those clans with the exception of Gurgura.

We all have unknown sub clans in our ranks(I'm still searching for Warodhaqo Leelkase ) these clans might exist but chances are they are probably too laangaab to make a difference in the long run.

Somalis are full of shit and hot air, waa in istaqaano don't be mislead by their booto.

Issaq is not Dir, I have Issaq uncles, cousins and aunts. I would know, wallahi some Issaqs will punch you in the face if you call them anything but reer Sheikh Isxaaq waxas yaan laga maqlin bro, Issaq iyo Dir shaqo iskuma laho.

Besides, where do all these Dir sub clans live? can you tell me their degaans in K5?