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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby MarsinQorahay » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:06 pm

^ Liibaan aside from it, they don't live anywhere passed it, that's nearly less than 5% as they aren't the majority in Liibaan, Its strictly Degodiya iyo Gerre. Just my two cents for the day.
Ilkayars also lives from mudug into the ethio border and inside qoraxay region of ogadenia

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby thegoodshepherd » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:00 pm

They live in Wardheer Qoraxey and Liiban (Deka Suftu).

Marehan are still moving from the relatively useless Hawd to riverine areas and Kismayo, and I don't blame them that's where the future is. It makes sense to leave Balanbale for Baardhere. Probably the only Somali clan that is still moving on such a large basis.

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby RoobleAlWaliid » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:22 pm

Gobolka Liibaan

Big players: Degodia, Garre , Gurre (Dir) and Marexaan.

Garre is confederation , some are Quranyow Mahe Dir, some are Raxanweyn and some are Hawiye.

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby zumaale » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:08 pm

Gobolka Liibaan

Big players: Degodia, Garre , Gurre (Dir) and Marexaan.

Garre is confederation , some are Quranyow Mahe Dir, some are Raxanweyn and some are Hawiye.
Bro, Garre split strictly into two parts, Tuf and Quranyow. Tuf are neither Hawiye or Raxanweyn. They are related to Galjeecel and Degoodis in belonging to Gardheere Samaale according to their oral history. Quranyow (religious nickname) Maxamed Xiniftere Maha Dir was a Wadaad who married Tufs daughter and that is how the two became alligned. Gunther Schlee did a lot of research on the Garres and his findings also support their oral abtirsi. Only in the South do they come under the Raxanweyn confederation due to their isolation from other Garres and assimilation into the Digil umbrella. The Garres in Mandheera district are mostly Quranyow whilst the ones in Moyaale/Marsabit are Tuf.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_8D ... ir&f=false

The following is an abtirsi submitted to James Dahl by a Digil Garre Quranyow individual.

http://www.abtirsi.com/forum/viewtopic. ... irsiLang=1

The majority clans in Liben Zone are Garre and Degoodi like Armaan stated but you have a minority of Mareexan, Garrimari, Gurre and other smaller clans. The Mareexan Rer Xassan and Gurre in Liben Zone were displaced from Negelle by the Boran and most Reer Xassans have crossed the border into Gedo; they now dominate Luuq town. The Gurres have also migrated in large numbers to their exclusive woredas in Guradamole and Goro Bekeksa in Afdher Zone. Gurres are actually a subclan of Akisho.

Marsin is right in highlighting that Mareexans also have deegans in Shilabo Woreda.

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby thegoodshepherd » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:42 pm

Mareexan Rer Xassan and Gurre in Liben Zone were displaced from Negelle by the Boran and most Reer Xassans have crossed the border into Gedo; they now dominate Luuq town. The Gurres have also migrated in large numbers to their exclusive woredas in Guradamole and Goro Bekeksa in Afdher Zone. Gurres are actually a subclan of Akisho.

Marsin is right in highlighting that Mareexans also have deegans in Shilabo Woreda.
Negelle?? You can't be serious, you probably meant Filtu :lol:

Anyway, after Degodiye declared their alliance with the Borana they tried to expel the Reer Xasan from Filtu. What happened was that Reer Xasan moved from Filtu woreda into the land of the Degodiye (Reer Deka) :lol:
Now Deka Suftu woreda is majority Reer Xasan, a woreda that was named after a Degodiye subclan. They never moved back to Gedo, as a matter of fact Suufka is now the largest town in Liiban, even larger than Filtu. They allied with the pagan Borana in the hope that it would help them against Reer Xasan and Garre.
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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby BlackRain » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:45 pm

As far as Darods go , Darods inside Somalia Marehan is actually the most numerous.. They are in Kismayo 35%, Abudwaq, Moqdisho 5 % , Hawd, and the whole seven districts of Gedo, Mandeera all the way to middle Jubba in Jilib and Gobweyn....

After that Majerteen, and then Ogaden, followed by Dhulus, Warsans, Leelkase , Bartire, Awrtable , Absukul, and Dashiishe

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby RoobleAlWaliid » Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:41 am

Gobolka Liibaan

Big players: Degodia, Garre , Gurre (Dir) and Marexaan.

Garre is confederation , some are Quranyow Mahe Dir, some are Raxanweyn and some are Hawiye.
Bro, Garre split strictly into two parts, Tuf and Quranyow. Tuf are neither Hawiye or Raxanweyn. They are related to Galjeecel and Degoodis in belonging to Gardheere Samaale according to their oral history. Quranyow (religious nickname) Maxamed Xiniftere Maha Dir was a Wadaad who married Tufs daughter and that is how the two became alligned. Gunther Schlee did a lot of research on the Garres and his findings also support their oral abtirsi. Only in the South do they come under the Raxanweyn confederation due to their isolation from other Garres and assimilation into the Digil umbrella. The Garres in Mandheera district are mostly Quranyow whilst the ones in Moyaale/Marsabit are Tuf.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_8D ... ir&f=false

The following is an abtirsi submitted to James Dahl by a Digil Garre Quranyow individual.

http://www.abtirsi.com/forum/viewtopic. ... irsiLang=1

The majority clans in Liben Zone are Garre and Degoodi like Armaan stated but you have a minority of Mareexan, Garrimari, Gurre and other smaller clans. The Mareexan Rer Xassan and Gurre in Liben Zone were displaced from Negelle by the Boran and most Reer Xassans have crossed the border into Gedo; they now dominate Luuq town. The Gurres have also migrated in large numbers to their exclusive woredas in Guradamole and Goro Bekeksa in Afdher Zone. Gurres are actually a subclan of Akisho.

Marsin is right in highlighting that Mareexans also have deegans in Shilabo Woreda.
I see cuzz, thank you. :up:

I heard they were scattered as far as Chad? Ma run baa? Also could you say it's a confederation based on language or not? If the Chad part is true and Somali's get their shit in check, Beesha Direed will have a proxy in Chad.
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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby BigBreak » Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:43 am

As far as Darods go , Darods inside Somalia Marehan is actually the most numerous.. They are in Kismayo 35%, Abudwaq, Moqdisho 5 % , Hawd, and the whole seven districts of Gedo, Mandeera all the way to middle Jubba in Jilib and Gobweyn....

After that Majerteen, and then Ogaden, followed by Dhulus, Warsans, Leelkase , Bartire, Awrtable , Absukul, and Dashiishe
blackrain there is no hawd in somalia, only in ethiopia and somaliland

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby jalaaludin5 » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:29 am

Waar yaa alihi Ale yahay.

Oo badni maxay sheegi hadii la idin rarto sida dameerta.
Mise indhihiinu reer hebel mooye shiisheye ma arkaan.

Walee hadii aan cinjeero ethiopian iyo ugali national dishkiina noqon oo gabdhaha instead of abaayo aydun Anjiye ku badalin weydun arki.

Yataa baatu zoomali. Minim al gabam indhe?
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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby Osob101 » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:51 am

Gobolka Liibaan

Big players: Degodia, Garre , Gurre (Dir) and Marexaan.

Garre is confederation , some are Quranyow Mahe Dir, some are Raxanweyn and some are Hawiye.
Bro, Garre split strictly into two parts, Tuf and Quranyow. Tuf are neither Hawiye or Raxanweyn. They are related to Galjeecel and Degoodis in belonging to Gardheere Samaale according to their oral history. Quranyow (religious nickname) Maxamed Xiniftere Maha Dir was a Wadaad who married Tufs daughter and that is how the two became alligned. Gunther Schlee did a lot of research on the Garres and his findings also support their oral abtirsi. Only in the South do they come under the Raxanweyn confederation due to their isolation from other Garres and assimilation into the Digil umbrella. The Garres in Mandheera district are mostly Quranyow whilst the ones in Moyaale/Marsabit are Tuf.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_8D ... ir&f=false

The following is an abtirsi submitted to James Dahl by a Digil Garre Quranyow individual.

http://www.abtirsi.com/forum/viewtopic. ... irsiLang=1

The majority clans in Liben Zone are Garre and Degoodi like Armaan stated but you have a minority of Mareexan, Garrimari, Gurre and other smaller clans. The Mareexan Rer Xassan and Gurre in Liben Zone were displaced from Negelle by the Boran and most Reer Xassans have crossed the border into Gedo; they now dominate Luuq town. The Gurres have also migrated in large numbers to their exclusive woredas in Guradamole and Goro Bekeksa in Afdher Zone. Gurres are actually a subclan of Akisho.

Marsin is right in highlighting that Mareexans also have deegans in Shilabo Woreda.

And how is it they are related to Galjecel amd Degodie and they are not Hawiye? In what planet did Galjecel and Degodie suddenly are no longer Hawiye :lol:

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby zumaale » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:53 am

Mareexan Rer Xassan and Gurre in Liben Zone were displaced from Negelle by the Boran and most Reer Xassans have crossed the border into Gedo; they now dominate Luuq town. The Gurres have also migrated in large numbers to their exclusive woredas in Guradamole and Goro Bekeksa in Afdher Zone. Gurres are actually a subclan of Akisho.

Marsin is right in highlighting that Mareexans also have deegans in Shilabo Woreda.
Negelle?? You can't be serious, you probably meant Filtu :lol:

Anyway, after Degodiye declared their alliance with the Borana they tried to expel the Reer Xasan from Filtu. What happened was that Reer Xasan moved from Filtu woreda into the land of the Degodiye (Reer Deka) :lol:
Now Deka Suftu woreda is majority Reer Xasan, a woreda that was named after a Degodiye subclan. They never moved back to Gedo, as a matter of fact Suufka is now the largest town in Liiban, even larger than Filtu. They allied with the pagan Borana in the hope that it would help them against Reer Xasan and Garre.
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Calm down, be objective and take the Darood lenses off. The biggest towns in Liben district are Mooyale and Doollo Ado.

The Reer Xassan have moved in large numbers to Gedo and displaced the other Mareexans from Luuq town. You think they magically appeared with the Gu Rains? Niggas trekked from the Ethiopian border. They lived as far as Negelle town before being displaced by the Borans from the K5/Oromo border areas. Furthermore, there is no Suftu Woreda, it is a small town. The only recognised woredas are Doollo Addo, Hudet, Filtu and Mooyale unless new ones have been announced since I last checked. The Liben Zone has a minority of Garrimari, Mareexans, Gurres, Ajuran, Karanles etc but credit gotta be given where it is due to the Garres and Degoodiya as this zone is their playing ground. The following link highlights what happened to Filtu before it was reduced in size after the Oromos went medieval on the Mareexan and Gurre pushing them towards Degoodiya territory.
Similarly, Liban/Filtu district is the home area of diverse Somali clans. The southern part of this socially mixed district adjoining Doollo district is an extension of Digodia territory, while the northern part starting from Xey Sufto village as far as Negelle town and its surroundings form the traditional territories of four Somali clans: Mareexaan (displaced since 1992), Gurre (dispossessed of its stocks), Ajuran and Karanle. Like their Oromo counterparts, these Somali clans consider Liban district as their land, and entertain the desire of it becoming a Somali administrative unit under Liban zone, whose zonal and district center would be Negelle town.
http://www.africa.upenn.edu/eue_web/libanzon.htm
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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

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And how is it they are related to Galjecel amd Degodie and they are not Hawiye? In what planet did Galjecel and Degodie suddenly are no longer Hawiye :lol:
They are Gardheere Samaale, just like the Xawaadle being Meyle Samaale, they are politically Hawiye, but their agnatic descent is one of the 9 Samaale.

It's like Jidwaaq aligning itself with Ogaden, even though they both fall under Absame.

I presume it's the only the Gaaljecel and Degodia in the borders and jurisdiction of Somalia that spearhead this movement. Others pride in their Gardheere descent.

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

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And how is it they are related to Galjecel amd Degodie and they are not Hawiye? In what planet did Galjecel and Degodie suddenly are no longer Hawiye :lol:
Walal Isir and Abtirsi ain't your forte by the looks of it. Do not insult them by denying their independent Samaale ancestry like you often do with Xawaadle despite the numerous times Sahal corrects you and rightfully points out that he is a Mayle Samaale not an Irir Samaale. Ha isku qaldin siyasad iyo nasab. Galjeecel and Degoodi are Garjante Gardheere Samaale, they do not abtirsi to Hawiye . There is a mutually beneficial Sheegad relationship between Galjeecel and Hawiye. Galjeecel have more influence under the Hawiye umbrella whilst Hawiye get more numbers. For instance, take the Samaales such as Galjeecel and Hawadle out from Hawiye and they lose claim to Hiiraan State as these two are the biggest clans in the state.

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby thegoodshepherd » Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:40 am

I am not saying that Reer Xasan did not leave Negelle or Filtu, just that they did not go back to Gedo. They actually mada Deka Suftu the fourth woreda of Liiban. The woreda has a Reer Xasan gudomiye. Here is a story of what happened when Cabdi Iley named Deka as a woreda for Reer Xasan http://www.allgedo.com/2012/07/21/beela ... -itoobiya/

Reer Xasan investing in their new deegan


Reer Xasan is my favourite ilkayar clan.

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Re: Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

Postby CaliQase » Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:44 am

Dekasuftu, Woreda iyo Filtu??! ma Xabashi ayaynu noqonay? :mindblown:


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