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Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby TheCadaanGuy » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:54 pm

How serious is the situation right now?

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby inaXasan » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:34 pm

Oromo protestors got murdered by the oppressive Tigray-Amxaar regime. that's all I know. I'm glad this shit is getting international attention. many people don't know what a giant fragile hellhole Ethiopia is.

It won't last long with this bs. we should prepare for the Fall and splitting up of Ethiopia. :up:

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby TheCadaanGuy » Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:16 pm

But doesn't that happen regularly? Is this one bigger now?

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby knet » Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:33 pm

There are over 10,000 people following Jawar Mohammed facebook feed. He is providing up to the hour updates. Follow him on facebook for updates and full on entertainment.

#‎OromoProtests‬ has continued in various area in Oromia. Today the people of Tokke Kutaye West Shawa, farmers from several villages marched. They have now promised to boycott market and refuse taxation.


Crackdown Turns Deadly In Ethiopia As Government Turns Against Protesters
http://www.npr.org/player/embed/460414825/460414826

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Human Rights Watch says as many as 75 people have been killed by Ethiopian security forces in confrontations. The government acknowledges only five deaths.

What's at stake is the use of land in the Oromia region, home to the country's largest ethnic group. They are disturbed by expansion plans for Addis Ababa, the capital. But in the last few days the protests have grown in size, and in grievance — and the government's crackdown has become more violent.

We asked our East Africa correspondent Gregory Warner some questions:

What's happening in Ethiopia?

The big picture here is that the world's population is growing and there's a big push for food and farmland. Something like 60 percent of available arable land is in Africa. And in Ethiopia, the government has been leasing large parcels of land to foreign investors from China and India and the Middle East. The government is legally allowed to do this. It owns all the land in Ethiopia. But critics call it 'land grabbing'. They say that people are being violently displaced from their ancestral lands. There's a big ethnic component as well in terms of who is affected.

The spark of the protests was provided last month when a forest was being cleared for development. The protests coalesced in opposition to the government's so-called "master plan" to expand development of Addis Ababa into surrounding farmland. The government claims that this 'master plan' is actually on hold. But since then, the protests have spread to other towns in the Oromia region, and they're not just about the 'master plan' but about a range of issues particular to this group.

What makes these protests different?

From footage posted on social media, these protests seem to be much larger and more diverse than previous protests. The protests have not been without violence — police stations have been torched and some foreign-owned farms have been looted.

But the biggest difference so far is the government's response. Instead of leaving the regional police to handle these protests, they've sent in the feared Anti Terrorism Task Force. The military has also allegedly fired live rounds into groups of protesters, increasing the death toll. The government disputes this.

The asymmetrical nature of the response has been criticized by the United States — the State Department released a statement early Saturday urging the government of Ethiopia to permit peaceful protests.

Why has the government not permitted peaceful protests?

Ethiopia, especially in the last decade, has allowed very little freedom of expression or assembly. Criticism of the government can get one jailed for terrorism. Ethiopian journalists are serving time for this now. In parliamentary elections this May, the ruling party and its allied parties won 100 percent of seats in parliament. There isn't any space in Ethiopia right now for political debate.

The Ethiopian government is treating these protests as an existential threat to the country. Ethiopia's Anti Terrorism Task Force issued a communique on Dec. 15 that painted the protests as the work of a small number of hardline separatists: a "very limited number of students from the Oromo ethnic group... creating a direct connection with forces that have taken missions from foreign terrorist groups." The following day, Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn said that the government "will take merciless legitimate action against any force bent on destabilizing the area."

It doesn't seem that the protesters will have an opportunity to sit down with the government to discuss their demands.

Meanwhile, some of the Ethiopian government's fiercest critics - especially in the Ethiopian diaspora in the United States — are describing these protests as a long-awaited uprising by the Oromo people against the government. But they sharply disagree with the government's characterization of this as an ethnic conflict. Rather, they describe it as a political revolt by a large and marginalized ethnic group, and say that the protesters have taken care not to target people of other ethnicities.

Ethiopia is also facing a food shortage more serious than at any time in the last 30 years. Why is that, and is that a factor in these protests?

The reasons for the food shortage have to do with a drought exacerbated by El Niño as well as climate change. The government estimates that more than 10 million people could be affected, and many of them live in the Oromia region. That could certainly exacerbate tensions. There's also historical precedent: the last big Ethiopian famine - in 1984 - was credited with bringing down a government — the marxist military Derg regime. The fall of that regime cleared the way for the current government to come to power.

There's another factor here that's even more sensitive in Ethiopia right now. Many food security experts will argue that one reason Ethiopia is so prone to famine is that the population is so rural. The way to avoid these situations in the future will be to shift more of the population into urban centers rather than having so many people dispersed across land that is of such poor quality and so vulnerable to climate issues. That is what supporters of Ethiopia's "master plan" say that it will do.

But since the government owns all the land, and the 'master plan' is so controversial, the Ethiopian government is not willing to talk publicly about Ethiopia's urbanized future.

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby knet » Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:36 pm

They woke up a sleeping giant no turning back now, let the great games begin.

Game Of Thrones Ethiopia. :stylin:

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:stylin:

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Postby Halmog » Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:46 pm

:stylin: The sleeping giant has awaken

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby inaXasan » Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:49 pm

xabshidu aqli malaho miyaa horta. Don't they know that this shit won't last forever? this country needs to die

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby knet » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:06 pm

xabshidu aqli malaho miyaa horta. Don't they know that this shit won't last forever? this country needs to die
The sooner the better.

The downfall of Ethiopia will bring a lot of wealth and prosperity to Somalia oo dhan

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby TheCadaanGuy » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:10 pm

I don't like seeing people suffer but the government must come down.

I wish nothing but ease for people who will be going through the hardship.

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby inaXasan » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:15 pm

xabshidu aqli malaho miyaa horta. Don't they know that this shit won't last forever? this country needs to die
The sooner the better.

The downfall of Ethiopia will bring a lot of wealth and prosperity to Somalia oo dhan
how will this benefit Somalia? it will likely cause a refugee crisis in the country because we know the xabashi are pathetic and will start some kind of genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Oromo and Somali.

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Re: Anyone following Ethiopia political news - come in

Postby knet » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:26 am

xabshidu aqli malaho miyaa horta. Don't they know that this shit won't last forever? this country needs to die
The sooner the better.

The downfall of Ethiopia will bring a lot of wealth and prosperity to Somalia oo dhan
how will this benefit Somalia? it will likely cause a refugee crisis in the country because we know the xabashi are pathetic and will start some kind of genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Oromo and Somali.
The Oromo and Somalis are 60 to 70 million deep, if they can't defend themselves than they deserve to die.

Fight or die it's 2015 shit!!

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