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Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby dvision01 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:59 am

Who are we kidding kulaha elections we cant even enjoy a meal at our local somali restaurant without a different tribe being served first :snoop:

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby Togdeer » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:09 am

The people of Somalia need to stop being hopeful. Somalia has had no government for the last 25 years, and it looks like it's going to stay like this. All these leaders have been lying to the people. Somalia is run by AU, Ethiopia and America are pulling the strings. Nobody wants a safe stable Somalia. Especially these politicians, they just want your money, none of them are true patriots. My advice to everyone is everyone go their separate ways. Look at how the former USSR countries benefited since the fall of the empire. While Somalia has gone backwards.
It is not feasible to have mini unrecognized nations in a country economic wise. :eat: Look at SL.
Economic wise Somaliland is doing well. Berbera port generates more tax than the whole of Somalia. Also the main export of horn, which is livestock mainly goes through Somaliland. Puntland are doing alright collecting their taxes. But SFG barley collects any tax, and most of the development is done by foreigners or the diaspora. The SFG are a bunch of useless theives. Wake up to reality.

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby smooth » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:49 am


You are a fockin 4.5 apologist saying darod this darod that. No legitimate country uses clanism with politics. Clanism should be left out of politics this is 2016. Dameer, do you think your elders care about you? 4.5 was in place 2012 what has it done for us?
You lost all credibility, 4.5 is what has brought you back into the country from Utango, there are several degmo's up in the barren wastelands of Bari and sool were virtually no one lives ceelasha biyah alone has more people then all combined, what you are proposing is the very reason people went to war with afweyne, you are essentially advocating for that very same system

Like I said before Hawiye is not loosing out it, it will have a majority, primarily because you parasites have been cleansed from Xamar, as always you want to usurp the rights of DIR, Rahanweyne and all other minority groups like the leeches that you are, the only system that's fair is a 1 man 1 vote, in that system you'll become completely irrelevant.

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby Unionist » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:54 pm


You are a fockin 4.5 apologist saying darod this darod that. No legitimate country uses clanism with politics. Clanism should be left out of politics this is 2016. Dameer, do you think your elders care about you? 4.5 was in place 2012 what has it done for us?
You lost all credibility, 4.5 is what has brought you back into the country from Utango, there are several degmo's up in the barren wastelands of Bari and sool were virtually no one lives ceelasha biyah alone has more people then all combined, what you are proposing is the very reason people went to war with afweyne, you are essentially advocating for that very same system

Like I said before Hawiye is not loosing out it, it will have a majority, primarily because you parasites have been cleansed from Xamar, as always you want to usurp the rights of DIR, Rahanweyne and all other minority groups like the leeches that you are, the only system that's fair is a 1 man 1 vote, in that system you'll become completely irrelevant.

Idgaf if you think I have credibility or not so stop trying to character assassinate me. You don't know jack shit about North Somalia so stick to your degaans. Why is it that Hutus are the most vocal ones supporting 4.5? It's because they want to be in control of degmos they have no business representing. 4.5 is what brought clanism back into politics legitimately. It's the black hole upon Somalia's political crisis. It further segregate Clan s into their areas instead of living peacefully. At least you see SL voting based on parties rather than clanism.

I find it very disheartening that you would applaud that people were forcibly removed from Mogadishu. Hutus are known to be violent savages who committed genocide and extreme terrorism. I advocate equal representation, not 4.5.

Hutus protecting minorities? :o :shock: Drop the act.

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby CaliQase » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:06 pm

lol @ I advocate for equal representation, not 4.5.

That is oxymoron, 4.5 is an equal representation. Everyone basically getting 61 mps, with the minorities getting 31.

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby Halmogg » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:33 pm

:stylin: no compromise, hala kala yaco

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby thegoodshepherd » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:45 pm

lol @ I advocate for equal representation, not 4.5.

That is oxymoron, 4.5 is an equal representation. Everyone basically getting 61 mps, with the minorities getting 31.
According to the last population estimate, Bari&Nugaal has about the same number of people as Bay&Bakool or Woqoyie Galbeed. Bay&Bakool has at least 50 seats, with 11 coming from Lower Shabelle for Digil. All of Bari&NUgaal has 12 seats. If that is "equal" than I don't want to know what is unequal. Puntland cannot except such underrepresentation to go on, it hurts our interests in the long run, and is harmful for any steps towards democracy.

How can all of MJ have 12 seats, while D&M have 61?

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby CaliQase » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:51 pm

D&M settle in at least 5 regions. Bay and Bakool are just two of them!

Now, where else does MJ settle other than Bari and Nugaal (Plus North Mudug)?

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby thegoodshepherd » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:07 pm

MJ settle in Mudug, Bari, Nugaal, the entire coast of Jubada Hoose and Yeed district in Bakool. Also in Bokh, Geladi and Wardheer woredas in Ethiopia. I personally believe MJ eclipsed D&M in terms of population around the year 2000. Within the borders of Somalia D&M are bigger, but overall it is not so.

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby CaliQase » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:25 pm

I am talking about inside Somalia.
Anyways Reer Qansax baa reer Qurac ka badan is just a myth! We have no scientific way of proofing it.

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby whitehartlane » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:30 pm

hawiye protecting minorities?..lol..

you looted raped savaged and enslaved the minorities in in the most inhumane way one can imagine..and the only reason why we are not moving on is simply because of your savage gains that you want to keep hold of..

Irregardless of hsms lack of anything significance we will by force drag somalia into the 21 century...

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby CaliQase » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:36 pm

^^ :comeon: So, D-Block didn't gain any territory post-1991?

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby FarhanYare » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:43 pm

lol @ I advocate for equal representation, not 4.5.

That is oxymoron, 4.5 is an equal representation. Everyone basically getting 61 mps, with the minorities getting 31.
4.5 ayagaa keenay in the first place. They struck a gold by getting equal mps to the majority. Iimaanka baa soo dacay, if they want the president seat: all they need to do is bring raxaynweyn on your side, stop discriminating them, simple as that. They can make it work but iimaanka baa soo dacay :eat:

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby SahanGalbeed » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:09 pm

Universal suffrage or 4.5 until we get to it , makes perfect sense . I have listened to the Hawiye elders

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Re: Election talks end without breakthrough in Kismayo

Postby MujahidAishah » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:50 pm

I don't really care about 4.5 iyo fuutuud

Was Carte there or nah :ahh:


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