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Reason why Somalia is failed state

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Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby Unionist » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:15 am


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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby GAMES » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:28 am

Umm, this was posted here already. 2nd, Somalia failed the moment Siyaad bare (AUN) usurped power and became a dictator.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby Unionist » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:32 am

Umm, this was posted here already. 2nd, Somalia failed the moment Siyaad bare (AUN) usurped power and became a dictator.

How can you defend moryaan (not saying all Hawiye's are) who did this to Somalia? PL are also corrupted but they are 100 times better than Southern.


I need to hear Smooth about this. He always defending HSM and Mog but talks alot on PL.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby JSL3000 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:44 am

Atleast he exposed zoomalia the most fragile fragmented failed state in the world.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby Unionist » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:49 am

Atleast he exposed zoomalia the most fragile fragmented failed state in the world.

He also exposed Somaliland having zero chance of ictiraaf. It's better for SL not to be recognized because then when money comes in, they'll be like South.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby JSL3000 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:53 am

Atleast he exposed zoomalia the most fragile fragmented failed state in the world.

He also exposed Somaliland having zero chance of ictiraaf. It's better for SL not to be recognized because then when money comes in, they'll be like South.
No he didn't, I watched it, he said somaliland has a legal right to dissolution of the union, but politics is in the way.he also said somaliland is much more stable, peaceful and democratic than recognized countries in africa.
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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby GAMES » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:55 am

For most Daroods, Somalia failed in 1991. U conveniently leave out or forget what led to that moment. The 20yrs of Siyaad bare's rule was the catalyst to how the civil war started.

-Under his regime, 90% of the wealth went to Daroods.

-Almost all the ministerial positions went to his clans. Heck, even the mayor of the city was Darood (Majerteen).

-Land was confiscated from the locals and given to Daroods who arrived in the city.

-The carpet bombing and leveling of Hargeisa.

Of course, you would choose ro forget about those atrocities. And why wouldn't you, u benefited from it and didn't want the gravy train to ever stop.

But don't dwell on the past, its a new year and new century. Make something of urself instead of playing on Hawiye.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby JSL3000 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:57 am

He exposed xamar though he showed how each district run by different officer who extorts the people for protection and are basically modern day warlords with muscle man's miltias.

He should how there is no national army in mogadishu or the konfureed and that it's all clan based militias even police force just a bunch ragtag miltias.

He explained how he is a close friend of hasan shek but he admitted that he has failed his term as president and there is no progress in sight to credit him too.

He also admitted that it was US and others fault for giving afweyne so much foreign aid that when they cutt it off nigga had to run and reason why the whole world stop foreign aid and contact with somalia was because afweyne bombed hargeysa and other cities when he couldnt beat the snm.
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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby Unionist » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:02 am

Games.


That's a bold face lie. Siad Barre only supported Mareehaan during later regime when he lost power

So you're saying that Darood cannot be a mayor of the capital of Somalia?

Land was confiscated on those who had no capital to build on it. It's reasonable to pay those who had no monetary to build it. Having empty lots around the city is bad for business

The carpet bombing was done by Barre and shouldn't be leveled on Daroods.


But let's look on what happen after the kacaan days. Surely that's no fault of Daroods.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby JSL3000 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:05 am

The real reason is hawiye and darood both attributed to the complete destruction of the somali republic.

The destruction before 91 is darood blame.

After 91 up to now is hawiye blame and darood partial blame.

That's fair to say.
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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby MRnutritionist » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:22 am

no clear USC leadership is to blame
USC in Central Somalia was let by coronels while USC leadership was chosen Ali wardhiigley in Italy. The two factions had no clear communicatios, then Wardhiigley died allaha u naxariiste the Italy based USC replaced him and chosen new leader Ali Shido, and when Mogadishu was freed Caydiid came so does Cali Shido and Many others all claiming USC leader including the manifesto group Ali Mahdi.

Xawadle midiated all Hotel lafawayne there was an election and Ali shido was defeated by Caydiid the fist free and fair USC elections.

Ali shido accepted the result and handed the leadership to Caydiid
Manifasto group let by Ali mahdi refused the result and this is what let Somalia to become a fail state. It was USC' faul, they fail to agree the leadership and disarm civilians this sole reason is where the failiture started.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby Kudo » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:45 am

. U conveniently leave out or forget what led to that moment. The 20yrs of Siyaad bare's rule was the catalyst to how the civil war started.
Siyaad Barre rule was paradise if you compare it to the mayhem, cannibalism, warlords that followed.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby mahoka » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:48 am

. U conveniently leave out or forget what led to that moment. The 20yrs of Siyaad bare's rule was the catalyst to how the civil war started.
Siyaad Barre rule was paradise if you compare it to the mayhem, cannibalism, warlords that followed.
maybe for your ilk who got freebies but not for the rest of us

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby smooth » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:57 am


I need to hear Smooth about this. He always defending HSM and Mog but talks alot on PL.
Can you summarize the points in the video, I can't listen to 45 minutes, that's too long.

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Re: Reason why Somalia is failed state

Postby Unionist » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:20 am


I need to hear Smooth about this. He always defending HSM and Mog but talks alot on PL.
Can you summarize the points in the video, I can't listen to 45 minutes, that's too long.

I can't summarize the points.

Please watch the video when you have time.


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