Somaliland and Somalia and the Olympics and sports

[Khalid Ali]

Somaliland and Somalia are in a dead lock for decades now Somaliland wanting independence has it but no recognition this withholds somaliland from taking part of Olympics and other sports tournaments like football. I have always wondered i know that the south under no circumstance would ever support an independent Somaliland and i dont expect that nor am i waiting that they would. Its like Israel and Palestina agreeing on the 2 state solutions. During the Turkish talks in instanbul we saw that we could never agree on the political issues we are just to far apart and have different interest hence why the talks have collapsed all together. We agreed on one thing the airspace but even that didn't even hold water.

My point is Somalis in general when they are with others and gaalos European and Blacks they try to outshine each other try to out do each other. Why can we not agree to have different national teams like GB has the Scottish national team welsh national team. I think this is the only space we can ever agree we can never agree politics on diplomacy neigboring countries or history never, but why not agree on sports allow both countries to represent each other in world sports events we know the Somalia national team is a shame and magaci Somali wa ceebeysanyahay. But i am sure there are allot of great Somaliland runners many run for Djibouti or stay at home but what would go wrong u havent conceded anything really u still regard SL as part of Somalia nothing has changed there only are only various different sports team and it would do the Somali name also good , in a positive way ,hada Magaci somali wa ceebeysanyahay.

i saw how all Somalis cheered for Mo Farah and this is an ethnic solidarity despite him being a Somaliland national and running for Britain but allot of koonfurians support him and reer NFD because of magaca Somali imagine the Somaliland team peforming well u still can be proud of it as fellow Somalis and politically we havent moved an inch closer to each other on our dispute but atleast magaci Somali would have been saved. what do you guys think of this. Imika somalia wa tagtay Olympics laakin maxay la tagtay. hada ana waan khasaaray adna waad khasaartay

[whitehartlane]

Hell yeah I like the whole united Kingdom of way of doing sports....

Puntland v Brazil
Somaliland v france
Jubaland v egypt
Somalia v japan

[Khalid Ali]

That would have been great imagine team Puntland when the national states march on wouldn't that be amazing and the entire population from Puntland watching from big screens in garowe and bosaaso the rio Olympics. Saaxib puntland has the best national football team imagine puntland taking part of African football cup i am sure it would have defeated many shit african football teams to. with the right training and a bit of coaching it can go very far.

[whitehartlane]

Khalid sxb certain things I feel we somalis need autonomy on but certain other things I think we should be central about..

World affairs should be left to be dealth with one unit rather than fragments...

I rather have the best strikers from somaliland the best midfielders of puntland the defence from the mogadishu baydhabo folks and the best goalie from jubooyinka ..

Tht way we are much stronger

[whitehartlane]

Monetary military and international events should be represented by a union of somalis..world is a tough place and it's only getting tougher and nastier and we are seriously laangaab and can not afford to be fragmented in the eyes of the predators

[BigBreak]

Monetary military and international events should be represented by a union of somalis..world is a tough place and it's only getting tougher and nastier and we are seriously laangaab and can not afford to be fragmented in the eyes of the predators

but you dont mention djibouti, nfd k5 .......tell me how many points does your flag's star have?

[whitehartlane]

I would love for all somalis to share a nation, besides it's no secret tht they would swap flags in a heartbeat but for now nfd and kililka are part of other nations and I really do believe tht in time they will meet there destiny and be part of the somali ummah.. but till we get there we shouldn't be dismantling the Somalia tht we have now (atleast on paper)..

Yes the kacaanka made some horrible decisions and yes many parts of the country are now in better state then they were pre-90s and of course I find the patched up so called government in mogadishu laughable but does tht mean I should not see my future 50 years down the line?...

Do I find isaaqs claim on sool and sanaag based on queen Elizabeth wishes stupid yes 100% but does tht mean I hate isaaq not at all.. because that waraabe guy and siilaanyo do for me not represent isaaq the same way gaas does not represent mj..

Presidential candidates around the world are basing their campaigns on going to war and pressing nuclear buttons, the last remaining muslim country not in the pockets of the west was on the verge of getting couped..

Our southern neighbours (kenya uganda Tanzania Burundi and some parts of Ugandisho) joining up to become a very close union..

The more fragmented we are the more we are focused on each other and I can't see myself living in this type of state for the next 50 years we are officially the weakest link in Africa...and the only solution to our salvation is to do what the Europeans did decades ago,.forgI've the past and focus on the future..qabiilism is fun afternoon basal but it can't be the system to govern 20 million people.

In reality I know that you are dumb illiterate and way too stupid to understand where I am coming from..you probably reply with bacaac and that you are going to karbaash my faqash ass and all but before u do that let me say this...

Educate yourself brother it's really not healthy to be this stupid.

[xiimaaya]

Somaliland and Somalia are in a dead lock for decades now Somaliland wanting independence has it but no recognition this withholds somaliland from taking part of Olympics and other sports tournaments like football. I have always wondered i know that the south under no circumstance would ever support an independent Somaliland and i dont expect that nor am i waiting that they would. Its like Israel and Palestina agreeing on the 2 state solutions. During the Turkish talks in instanbul we saw that we could never agree on the political issues we are just to far apart and have different interest hence why the talks have collapsed all together. We agreed on one thing the airspace but even that didn't even hold water.

My point is Somalis in general when they are with others and gaalos European and Blacks they try to outshine each other try to out do each other. Why can we not agree to have different national teams like GB has the Scottish national team welsh national team. I think this is the only space we can ever agree we can never agree politics on diplomacy neigboring countries or history never, but why not agree on sports allow both countries to represent each other in world sports events we know the Somalia national team is a shame and magaci Somali wa ceebeysanyahay. But i am sure there are allot of great Somaliland runners many run for Djibouti or stay at home but what would go wrong u havent conceded anything really u still regard SL as part of Somalia nothing has changed there only are only various different sports team and it would do the Somali name also good , in a positive way ,hada Magaci somali wa ceebeysanyahay.

i saw how all Somalis cheered for Mo Farah and this is an ethnic solidarity despite him being a Somaliland national and running for Britain but allot of koonfurians support him and reer NFD because of magaca Somali imagine the Somaliland team peforming well u still can be proud of it as fellow Somalis and politically we havent moved an inch closer to each other on our dispute but atleast magaci Somali would have been saved. what do you guys think of this. Imika somalia wa tagtay Olympics laakin maxay la tagtay. hada ana waan khasaaray adna waad khasaartay

It's like hawyie or darood asking for independence. B ot going to happen.youbcould be looking for stealthy ictiraaf all you want . You will never somalia umbrella.

[Khalid Ali]

I would love for all somalis to share a nation, besides it's no secret tht they would swap flags in a heartbeat but for now nfd and kililka are part of other nations and I really do believe tht in time they will meet there destiny and be part of the somali ummah.. but till we get there we shouldn't be dismantling the Somalia tht we have now (atleast on paper)..

Yes the kacaanka made some horrible decisions and yes many parts of the country are now in better state then they were pre-90s and of course I find the patched up so called government in mogadishu laughable but does tht mean I should not see my future 50 years down the line?...

Do I find isaaqs claim on sool and sanaag based on queen Elizabeth wishes stupid yes 100% but does tht mean I hate isaaq not at all.. because that waraabe guy and siilaanyo do for me not represent isaaq the same way gaas does not represent mj..

Presidential candidates around the world are basing their campaigns on going to war and pressing nuclear buttons, the last remaining muslim country not in the pockets of the west was on the verge of getting couped..

Our southern neighbours (kenya uganda Tanzania Burundi and some parts of Ugandisho) joining up to become a very close union..

The more fragmented we are the more we are focused on each other and I can't see myself living in this type of state for the next 50 years we are officially the weakest link in Africa...and the only solution to our salvation is to do what the Europeans did decades ago,.forgI've the past and focus on the future..qabiilism is fun afternoon basal but it can't be the system to govern 20 million people.

In reality I know that you are dumb illiterate and way too stupid to understand where I am coming from..you probably reply with bacaac and that you are going to karbaash my faqash ass and all but before u do that let me say this...

Educate yourself brother it's really not healthy to be this stupid.

it is impossible for all Somalis to share a nation we cannot agree on the politics there is no way under no circumstance that djibouti or Somaliland want to share a nation with Mogadishu,its good to think about in 50 years time and the future and to have a vision not only for Somalis but for the entire region of the horn . there is nothing wrong with a shared union based on shared values and communalties and mutual respect, but this is impossible for SOMALIA AND Somaliland at least because the 2 dont agree on theri relationship somalia claims somaliland and somaliland distance its self from somalia there is no way the 2 will agree. A european style union with every nation having equal share and equal representation like Belgium has with Hollland and france this could work but i dont see that happeningn to since Mogadishu is a mess and there is no benefit to have a common union platform with the koonfurians because its only a disadvantage . ur thoughts are right on the poliitcs but in reality practically it is impossible really . so what needs to be done is the south needs to be fixed and its very hard to that and once they do that they should approach the rest of the Somalis and present their case what is it that they want. but i dont see that happening beccause somalis dont do consulation we try to force each other until one wins our sayings say that even ki roon ba reerka u hadhi..

[UlteriorMotive]

of course I find the patched up so called government in mogadishu laughable but does tht mean I should not see my future

It's always funny to see MJs say shit like this like they don't have the PM and their full representation of MPs (more than most clans acually).

Ilaah ah og waxaad rabtiin. Why not withdraw all your candidates and put your money where your mouth is?

[jalaaludin5]

From your post/thread it's obvious that Somalia's poor performance (in the Olympic) is a collective embarrassment that even sl cannot scape. And since you believe that as a separate country it's unfair for sl to share the "predictable/obvious" outcome of southerners in Rio, the solution is staring you right in the face. Somaliland should seriously think about changing it's name. Just the name.

With a change of name, it will solidify somalilands quest to be recognized and might even make those who are sceptical, reassess their view towards sl.

for now as far as big international events are concerned (especially those involve nations that are recognised) sl will always be under the shadow of that country you are no longer part of, yet cannot scape from its ...connection through that SOMALI name.

Bilacaleyk change the name to one that, when one hears it, the last place they'll associate with is that terrible terrible place called somalia.
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[vinshor]

Hell yeah I like the whole united Kingdom of way of doing sports....

Puntland v Brazil
Somaliland v france
Jubaland v egypt
Somalia v japan

Imagine that in world cup finals..

[bashe19]

Siad Barre's Somalia.

https://youtu.be/mzAFCQ9nkXE

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

of course I find the patched up so called government in mogadishu laughable but does tht mean I should not see my future

It's always funny to see MJs say shit like this like they don't have the PM and their full representation of MPs (more than most clans acually).

Ilaah ah og waxaad rabtiin. Why not withdraw all your candidates and put your money where your mouth is?

[whitehartlane]

So are you saying the mogadishu admin is not patched up?

Or are you saying they are not laughable?

What has my opinion of a situation to do with being MJ