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[CaliQaseV2]

it is time banadir becomes indepedent from this failed somalia project which is the root of all our problems.we are already indepedent,just waiting the day it becomes public.

Let me get this right. You want the Current Banaadir region (Not the Ex Banaadir Region) independent from the rest of the country?

all of them.they are economically depedent.we want our own AUTONOMOUS STATE.Fk somalia failed state.

Boowe, inta Banaadir naga dayso, Bari ka war keen!

[Strategic]

what is bari?

[sahal80]

^ CCC is name for that fat PM.

But why would Gaas go back to the PM where he's actually seen it first hand? Doesn't make sense

blackrain, siyaasada waxaa waaye wax isku xirxiran hal meel lagama fiiriyo. could be outside pressure. gaas came to PL to get resources for his next campaign in mogadishu and if you was following him he used to avoid clashes with xamar until galmudug appeared. i mean he didnt like to give himself the same anti-HAG impression of faroole but now after his internal problems it became his the-go to guy to divert attention

gaas wants to replace garguurte by himself so he doesnt like any other Dblock president to spoil the situation for him until then.....he also believes that cumareey is not the man for the job

another factor could be the UAE. this country has tried with CCC by asking all regional presidents to vote for him and only ahmed madobe was willing. sharif hassan suggested to her ambassador that they can just take garguurte and get rid of his dj group wich will pave the way to an anti-turkey govt

he also said that HAG president still have more chance than the other candidates and this guy has money, stronger network so its better to "puy" him!

so they called garguurte to the UAE in order to implement this agenda

sharif hassan and cumareey r friends but hes worry of his relations with kenya and ahmed madobe, his regional rival.

gaas neefwayn baa ka soo go,day!

so if garguurte gets rid of his dj folks like guleed, odowaa, mahad salad and farah this will weaken galmudug and HG role in the govt and they r the only problem between him and garguurte

so there is a scenario of saleebaan-led galmudug wich will be ok for PL and cayr interior. garguurte has secured the three seats of saleebaan new mps and they r likely to be odowaa, bukhari-former ala sheekh leader- the man who runs hotel SYL. hasho haji is set for the upper parliament.

but i dont think all the money of the world can keep him in there after november

http://www.alleastafrica.com/2016/10/05 ... -election/

What difference does it make for PL if Sacad or Saleebaan or Cayr lead Galmudug?

lol sxb i dont like to talk about these walaaloos business but i can say that saleebaan r very moderate plus their were tenstions between himanheeb and old galmudug over hobyo port and you can understand what means this when galmudug was at the same time in conflict with PL!

they say that uninstitutional entities always end up in tragic situation like libya and syria but tunisia and egyt was different bc they had independent military institutions who forced their leaders to resign after they got the green light from the west who was supporting these leaders. the way General caydiid formed HG was inistitutional, his right hand men were all generals like col shabeel anyone who becomes against them will be killed even abdiqasim was forced to go abroad for his own safety....these guys have hijacked the clan and used it against many sister clans and one the leader is gone the whole clan have disintegrated

plus 70 HG waxgarad and intellectuals were killed by the US while advising caydiid....US wanted to kill caydiid but he left the place a hour ago

mj have operated as jabhad in the begining in bosaso led by abshir hamaan...there was jihadist camps in bari then yeey said these guys work for hassan dahir and he waged a war against them trying to control the region but there was stil abshir....by 1998 they formed a regional administration led by yeey and had police that was getting paid by the UNDP

btw we had in hiiraan an elected admins since 1993 but we didnt get this UNDP support bc of our selfish military-oriented leader

at that time there was no al shabaab so having control from baledweyne to jalalaqsi was big deal

a local lawyer who hails from a more urbanic jufo and was the autorney general under yeey has tried to make for our leader back then col qalaad an auditor general. col qalaad had only militias so he said to him adeer they wont pay for you we have council of elders, elected governor and mayors wich is good just make a police instead of the militias, cabinet and xisaabiye guud and you will get paid. he declared maamul goboleed by 2001 but he didnt finish the task
http://www.network54.com/Forum/104438/message/990696930

[Halmogg]

it is time banadir becomes indepedent from this failed somalia project which is the root of all our problems.we are already indepedent,just waiting the day it becomes public.

good for you

[theyuusuf143]

Somalia is a joke, only Mogadishu contributes the National treasury. First you or your state must be tax payer to have the right of presidential candidacy. Maxaad wax ku maamulaysaa hadaanay dadkaaguba shilling ku ridin qasnada dawlada. Aduunka xagaa Lagu arkay dal dhanoo ku xisaabtamaya inuu gebi ahaanba isku maamulo deeq shisheeye. Military , baarlamaan iyo xukuumad kulli mushaharkoodu deeq shisheeye ku xidhanyahay dawlad laguma noqon Karo. Inta meesha nin walba wax ku darsanayo sanduuqa reer muqdishu uun xaq u leh hogaanka, dadka kale caydh Bay usoo wada shaqo tageen haysla yaabaan oo lafahooda ha u qajilaan. Imika puntland xitaa guuto ugumay tabarucin xooga iskaba dhaaf cashuur iyo warkeede hadana inay meesha hogaamiyaan Bay u xusul duubanyihiin kkkkk.

[CaliQaseV2]

blackrain, siyaasada waxaa waaye wax isku xirxiran hal meel lagama fiiriyo. could be outside pressure. gaas came to PL to get resources for his next campaign in mogadishu and if you was following him he used to avoid clashes with xamar until galmudug appeared. i mean he didnt like to give himself the same anti-HAG impression of faroole but now after his internal problems it became his the-go to guy to divert attention

gaas wants to replace garguurte by himself so he doesnt like any other Dblock president to spoil the situation for him until then.....he also believes that cumareey is not the man for the job

another factor could be the UAE. this country has tried with CCC by asking all regional presidents to vote for him and only ahmed madobe was willing. sharif hassan suggested to her ambassador that they can just take garguurte and get rid of his dj group wich will pave the way to an anti-turkey govt

he also said that HAG president still have more chance than the other candidates and this guy has money, stronger network so its better to "puy" him!

so they called garguurte to the UAE in order to implement this agenda

sharif hassan and cumareey r friends but hes worry of his relations with kenya and ahmed madobe, his regional rival.

gaas neefwayn baa ka soo go,day!

so if garguurte gets rid of his dj folks like guleed, odowaa, mahad salad and farah this will weaken galmudug and HG role in the govt and they r the only problem between him and garguurte

so there is a scenario of saleebaan-led galmudug wich will be ok for PL and cayr interior. garguurte has secured the three seats of saleebaan new mps and they r likely to be odowaa, bukhari-former ala sheekh leader- the man who runs hotel SYL. hasho haji is set for the upper parliament.

but i dont think all the money of the world can keep him in there after november

http://www.alleastafrica.com/2016/10/05 ... -election/

What difference does it make for PL if Sacad or Saleebaan or Cayr lead Galmudug?

lol sxb i dont like to talk about these walaaloos business but i can say that saleebaan r very moderate plus their were tenstions between himanheeb and old galmudug over hobyo port and you can understand what means this when galmudug was at the same time in conflict with PL!

they say that uninstitutional entities always end up in tragic situation like libya and syria but tunisia and egyt was different bc they had independent military institutions who forced their leaders to resign after they got the green light from the west who was supporting these leaders. the way General caydiid formed HG was inistitutional, his right hand men were all generals like col shabeel anyone who becomes against them will be killed even abdiqasim was forced to go abroad for his own safety....these guys have hijacked the clan and used it against many sister clans and one the leader is gone the whole clan have disintegrated

plus 70 HG waxgarad and intellectuals were killed by the US while advising caydiid....US wanted to kill caydiid but he left the place a hour ago

mj have operated as jabhad in the begining in bosaso led by abshir hamaan...there was jihadist camps in bari then yeey said these guys work for hassan dahir and he waged a war against them trying to control the region but there was stil abshir....by 1998 they formed a regional administration led by yeey and had police that was getting paid by the UNDP

btw we had in hiiraan an elected admins since 1993 but we didnt get this UNDP support bc of our selfish military-oriented leader

at that time there was no al shabaab so having control from baledweyne to jalalaqsi was big deal

a local lawyer who hails from a more urbanic jufo and was the autorney general under yeey has tried to make for our leader back then col qalaad an auditor general. col qalaad had only militias so he said to him adeer they wont pay for you we have council of elders, elected governor and mayors wich is good just make a police instead of the militias, cabinet and xisaabiye guud and you will get paid. he declared maamul goboleed by 2001 but he didnt finish the task
http://www.network54.com/Forum/104438/message/990696930

It won't make a signle difference for them because the friction between Sacad & Saleebaan is over!

P.S. Waxaad doonto ka hadal. These are public boards after all. Haddaad wax fahmi waysana take a shower

[Geeljire252]

What difference does it make for PL if Sacad or Saleebaan or Cayr lead Galmudug?

lol sxb i dont like to talk about these walaaloos business but i can say that saleebaan r very moderate plus their were tenstions between himanheeb and old galmudug over hobyo port and you can understand what means this when galmudug was at the same time in conflict with PL!

they say that uninstitutional entities always end up in tragic situation like libya and syria but tunisia and egyt was different bc they had independent military institutions who forced their leaders to resign after they got the green light from the west who was supporting these leaders. the way General caydiid formed HG was inistitutional, his right hand men were all generals like col shabeel anyone who becomes against them will be killed even abdiqasim was forced to go abroad for his own safety....these guys have hijacked the clan and used it against many sister clans and one the leader is gone the whole clan have disintegrated

plus 70 HG waxgarad and intellectuals were killed by the US while advising caydiid....US wanted to kill caydiid but he left the place a hour ago

mj have operated as jabhad in the begining in bosaso led by abshir hamaan...there was jihadist camps in bari then yeey said these guys work for hassan dahir and he waged a war against them trying to control the region but there was stil abshir....by 1998 they formed a regional administration led by yeey and had police that was getting paid by the UNDP

btw we had in hiiraan an elected admins since 1993 but we didnt get this UNDP support bc of our selfish military-oriented leader

at that time there was no al shabaab so having control from baledweyne to jalalaqsi was big deal

a local lawyer who hails from a more urbanic jufo and was the autorney general under yeey has tried to make for our leader back then col qalaad an auditor general. col qalaad had only militias so he said to him adeer they wont pay for you we have council of elders, elected governor and mayors wich is good just make a police instead of the militias, cabinet and xisaabiye guud and you will get paid. he declared maamul goboleed by 2001 but he didnt finish the task
http://www.network54.com/Forum/104438/message/990696930

It won't make a signle difference for them because the friction between Sacad & Saleebaan is over!

P.S. Waxaad doonto ka hadal. These are public boards after all. Haddaad wax fahmi waysana take a shower

Ishaad ka riday

The time of Habargidir fighting each other and shisheeye taking advantage of us is over

Sahal is a trouble maker who needs a shower

[BarreLoyalist0]

geeljire that hg brother has no chance and is only taking votes away from his clansmen espcially abgaal big duo qoslaye and shariif

HG has a power base in Galmudug, Banaadir and Shabellada Hoose.
It's not like 2012, all HG are united this year.

We will give our Hiraab brothers a run for their money

Xawadle should be given a chance.

you are talking about xawaadle when even habar digir has no chance for the presidency kkkkkkk you can only Dream

[Geeljire252]

^ looma ooyaan dhulmahante focus on your land and keep Habargidir and Xawaadle out of your mouth.

Please iska aamu sxb, hays ceebayn, dhulna ma lihid dadna ma lihid. You are looma ooyaan.

Habargidir and xawaadle both have their own maamuls whereas you have nothing.

[SamsamX]

HG has a power base in Galmudug, Banaadir and Shabellada Hoose.
It's not like 2012, all HG are united this year.

We will give our Hiraab brothers a run for their money

Xawadle should be given a chance.

Who are your presidential candidates?

Don't have any. You?

[sahal80]

^ looma ooyaan dhulmahante focus on your land and keep Habargidir and Xawaadle out of your mouth.

Please iska aamu sxb, hays ceebayn, dhulna ma lihid dadna ma lihid. You are looma ooyaan.

Habargidir and xawaadle both have their own maamuls whereas you have nothing.

geeljire, what i think of HG is based on my questions to the politicians including HG folks not based on emotions or from the rival clans. of course this is from the past now but its good to study the history so we can avoid its negative side

i said under Gen caydiid and his caskar crew it was not allowed cuqaasha voices

read this about abdiqasim, i have been told he fled from caydiid, you now im muslim brotherhood so i know their history. after qasim couldnt do shyt in HG he became close to al islaax and for this reason he became president just like garguurte is backed by a new faction of them.
http://www.somalitalk.com/fahad/cqasim.html

we hawadle had no this caburis. we politically clashed with caydiid in 1993 before the war bc a decision to partake the 'reconciliation' conference in addis ababa as a clan and per region was taking by cuqaasha. caydiid wanted us to attend with him as USC/jabhad, this means D&M and reer xamar cannot be part of the conference bc they dont control their land....at this time there was UNSOM1 and we were kinda fed up of caydiid so we said let us support the reconciliation thinking that the foreign troops will not pull out from somalia until somalis build their govt so there was good reasons for this decision

this is cusman jeele he did not like to partake any political qabqable activities but after the war with caydiid as soon the khawajat left he called us to nairobi....he was living in saudi arabia and based on these meetings we formed in baledweyne the USCPM-peace movement- as an independent wing

we also started electing governor back in unsom days in 1993 until we dissolved this USC-qalad, shuriye, ambassador laqanyo admins- so this admin was negotiating with any new govt
https://www.africaintelligence.com/ION/ ... ,26301-ART


im not posting this for braging....my point is when you have free voices you can orgonize yourselve and then try to reach out others. im sure there were people like abdiqasim, dr cabdullahi cadow who could organize such things but they were not given a chance so thats why our cuqaasha were able to orgonize this reconciliation conference while there was other clan-based blocks

this conference has opened the highway between us after 4 years of being closed. atleast we have united with jowhar willingly...unukaleh of xamar like xussein xaaji bood who was claiming being the USC leader-political wing- against General caydiid was still saying unukaleh...hes waceysle btw but we got mohamed dheere and professor geedi(warsangali abgaals)

if there was no damjadid we could have easily made heshiis between hawadle and warsangali no matter who leads will be rotation.
http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Hornet/irin_71999.html

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg ... eAFnl7ZYYJ
look hassan qalaad was elected twice
http://www.bbc.com/somali/news/story/20 ... laad.shtml

[GalliumerianSlayer]

it is time banadir becomes indepedent from this failed somalia project which is the root of all our problems.we are already indepedent,just waiting the day it becomes public.

Let me get this right. You want the Current Banaadir region (Not the Ex Banaadir Region) independent from the rest of the country?

all of them.they are economically depedent.we want our own AUTONOMOUS STATE.Fk somalia failed state.

Says the Jeberti.