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Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:30 pm

What advo doesnt know is that the Tigre are ethnic tribalist they do not give u breathing space they ruined Ethiopia its Economic system there is so much corruption and they have done everything and taken every single source of income of the state . They have ruined honest trade. our aim is to connect Berbera to Wajaale all the way to nazareth and invest than into logistics and transport that will go to every corner of Ethiopia. We want to even re invest our Money back to Ethiopia and build new communities. the sky is the limit with the Amhara leadership, Amhara allows others to eat with them, I have nothing against Oromo i have allot of Oromo friends. But oromo are not stable leaders they are not leaders to much emotion and baggage i cant deal with that. Amhara are also trust worthy not full of treason like the tigre we can make a long term alliance with them in the horn, Amhara will not play double diplomacy it knows what is going on in the region.



Hawdian u forgot 2 things
Amhara leadership
Oromo guard army law and enforcers
Isaaaq and gurage money
Harari coffee
Agew engineering
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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby AwRastaale » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:10 pm

I don't see any political protest in Wellega calling for Oromia or anything in that nature.

All I see is 100 or so youth marching holding their heads not even showing will to fight or die for their beliefs.

If anything the video supports my argument that Oromo will have their hands tied until the chosen Amhara leader emerges and tells them to pick up their guns like Gobana.

No Oromo flag, no clear Oromo agenda and for God sake I don't even hear afaan Oromo.

They could be Amhara, Konso and Nilo-Saharan marching for education.

Not all Oromo are marching. Some are marching for self rule mainly in the brave Arsi, some are embedded with Amhara, some are off the grid (Karrayyu, Borana), some are in bed with TPLF and many are confused.

Only the Amhara have clear goal; topple TPLF and form unity government.

Now let's look at the Amhara force.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJe219hb3yk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJN-KuOnlNg


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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby Waachis » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:54 pm

The protest is calling for Oromo self-rule and down with TPLF. That has always been the case.
If they were not willing to die for Bilisumaa, they would not be out there in the first place.
In Ethiopia, you get killed for having a different opinion, so imagine protesting.
Get real, dude.
Not all Oromo need to march dude, there's 40 million of us.
Even when Eritrea was fighting, 100,000 out of 6,000,000 fought.
Not everybody needs to be on the front-lines. People play different roles.
Some gather intelligence on enemy troop movements. Some supply the food and needs.
Some do other stuff.
As long as a large amount protest and the rest support them morally, the struggle will and has to continue.
The Amhara protests are already done. They are all hiding in their homes now. Go convince them to go outside then and fight.

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby AwRastaale » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:18 pm

Amhara is not done. Amhara is all about timing and playing smart.

The indoor Amhara protest is crippling the TPLF more than Oromo who have their hands tied above their hands.

Do you know why?

First of all only 100 Oromo are marching per city while millions of more Oromo go to work to fulfill TPLF taxation offices. So basically Oromo is funding their oppressors.

But Amhara said we will not come out. Either all of us march to Menelik Palace or all of us stay indoor which means $0 for TPLF. Who do they tax now?

The economy is suffering. Foreign investors are fleeing and as a result the government went into state of emergency.

That is very effective. The holy leader hasn't emerged yet. There is no sign of Tewodros III so the faithful must remain indoor and await for a divine orders. But the army has spoken and shown its readiness to restore Kebra Nagast.

If more Oromo stopped paying taxes the TPLF would flee long time ago.

Equally I recommend you read this insightful article by Oromo brother who borrowed some of my terms/analogy from my Oromomathematics work: http://gadaa.com/oduu/28230/2015/06/17/ ... in-oromia/

Recall:

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http://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92221

In that work, I explained why and how all Oromo forces cancel each others out thus making Amhara a clear winner.
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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby gedo_gurl » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:29 pm


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I'm rolling! I can't breathe! :lol: :lol: :lol:

What's with the Oromophobia, Somalinet? They're literally our closest relatives alongside Afar and we have a long history together. Amhara kingdom caused us so much anguish and even their peasants look down on us because of how their forefathers forced us into Ethiopia. I don't care if Ethiopia remains one, or fragments but tribalism against Oromo is just unnecessary. They're our real neighbours, Amhara don't even share a border with us.

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby Waachis » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:31 pm

Amhara is not done, and neither is the Oromo.
Difference is the Oromo have been consistent while the amharas revolutionary zeal/flame has went dim lately.
They went from liberating towns to staying indoors.
and no, not really, way more than a few 100 are protesting.
the in doors protesting is not harming tplf at all.
they still control the land. they still have welkait and the other disputed lands.
they haven't lost anything to the amhara as of now.
the investors ran because of the protests the oromo did and are doing that are destabilizing things---not because a few amharas grounded themselves.
your false article is of no interest to me. i admit you're smart but you're not as smart as ME when it comes to my own people and country.
you cannot teach me about a subject I am more familiar with.
Your expertise should be zoomalia, isaaq-land, ji-booty and your somali cousins about to be deported from dadaab camp.
may Allah give you a long life just so you see a free oromia, a new ethiopian government led by oromos and others, and your dreams crushed.

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby gedo_gurl » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:05 pm

a new ethiopian government led by oromos and others, and your dreams crushed.
Aren't you worried that this new 'self rule' ethos will be short lived and that once that government fails or gets voted out that you'll be back at this same spot in a few generations?

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:10 pm

oromo are just not leadership material it took amhara to start the protest. oromo cannot walk the street if amhara doesnt hold his hand. amhara want to change their situation oromo wait for amhara to change it for them. thats why the royal family will lead Ethiopia. and they have what it takes to make ethiopia a powerful state again because oromo is weak they cant make something strong.i hope waschis stays on snet we can all wait and see how the royal family re take their crown

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby AwRastaale » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:15 pm

Gedo,

No one is anti-Oromo. In fact, I like Oromo but where me and Wellega resident Wachis differ is the future role of Oromo in Ethiopia.

He believes the hardcore Oromoffika can storm Menelik while I have my money on the Amhara and Oromo who are loyal to Ethiopia and the Kebra Nagast namely Yejju, Raayyu, Shoan.

I see no chance for his Wellega or the much weaker Afran Qallu, Bale, and the gypsy Karrayyuu or Borana who live off the grid.

The lions are the Arsi but Arsi cannot stand against the wave of Amhara, Agew, Gurage, Tigrais who now kissed the ring, Abyssinian Oromos.

You have to know Ethiopia well enough to know where things are heading.

Much respect to Arsi (flying the red, black and white flag) but they are not enough.


Wachis,

You wait and see dear lad.

Amhara are timing and testing the waters on how best to tackle the situation with as little as risk.

They have 3000 year old history of doing these things. They have been absent only 25 years.

History is a great teacher and btw my Ethiopiologist has nothing to do with ethnicity.

You know my knowledge about Ethiopia is deep. One area I need to study is Arsi in post-Menelik. I think it's very interesting especially Arsi hierarchy, core institutions such as qitte, their leaders (coward Suffa Kuso, Dammu Usu).

You can't play Oromo on me either because I am sure that I have walked more Oromo land in fact from edges of Dire, Bale, Arsi, Shoa to Moyale amongst the Borana.

One day I will explore the rest.

I see Menelik and his Oromo sons (northern Shoans eg Menz, Debre Berhan, Yifat) returning to power unless the house of Tewodros and Fasilides storm it before they do.

Even within Amhara, Gondar and Wollo have the upper hand when it comes to rulers. Gojjam has in most part kept things to itself and isn't expansionist like Shoa or Gondar.

It was the Gondaris who sowed the seeds of unity and one Ethiopian state courtesy of Atse Tewodros II but it was the Shoan Menelik who fulfilled the prophecy.

Today once again Gondaris are singing the music of war. It is very exciting time in Ethiopia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1pO9M7D-Y

May they prevail.

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby gedo_gurl » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:35 pm

AwRastaale,

So all these protests Jawar Mohamed posts are just from one group of Oromo?

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby AwRastaale » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:50 pm

AwRastaale,

So all these protests Jawar Mohamed posts are just from one group of Oromo?
First of all Jawar used to be Catholic but he converted to Islam. He is a major intellectual and highly educated man.

He is Arsi Oromo himself.

Much of the peotests are from his Arsi people who are amongst the greatest warriors in the Horn.

Oromo is really two main groups when it comes to ancestry; Borana and Bareentu.

When it comes to political heavyweights and warrior genes once again I divide them into two main cells; Arsi and Yejju.

The Yejju were fantastic warriors who conquered their way north all the way into the nucleus of Abbysinian society. Their last son/ruler was none other than Emperor Haile Selassie. Most people think or identity him as Amhara but he was not. Menelik himself appointed another Yejju as his successor; his grandson (from daughter) Lij Iyasu (child Ilyas/Elias, child because of his age).

The Yejju belong to the Bareentu as do most of our neighbors (especially in the north).

The Arsi warriors were the guardians and custodians of the Gadaa and Odaa institutions. They were eqavelent to the Abdullahi Wahabist of Saudia.

They occupied some of the most important lands in the Horn.

So now these two forces will once again clash not so much Oromo and Amhara.

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby gedo_gurl » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:58 pm

AwRastaale,

So all these protests Jawar Mohamed posts are just from one group of Oromo?
First of all Jawar used to be Catholic but he converted to Islam. He is a major intellectual and highly educated man.

He is Arsi Oromo himself.

Much of the peotests are from his Arsi people who are amongst the greatest warriors in the Horn.

Oromo is really two main groups when it comes to ancestry; Borana and Bareentu.

When it comes to political heavyweights and warrior genes once again I divide them into two main cells; Arsi and Yejju.

The Yejju were fantastic warriors who conquered their way north all the way into the nucleus of Abbysinian society. Their last son/ruler was none other than Emperor Haile Selassie. Most people think or identity him as Amhara but he was not. Menelik himself appointed another Yejju as his successor; his grandson (from daughter) Lij Iyasu (child Ilyas/Elias, child because of his age).

The Yejju belong to the Bareentu as do most of our neighbors (especially in the north).

The Arsi warriors were the guardians and custodians of the Gadaa and Odaa institutions. They were eqavelent to the Abdullahi Wahabist of Saudia.

They occupied some of the most important lands in the Horn.

So now these two forces will once again clash not so much Oromo and Amhara.
I didn't know that about Jawar Mohamed!

Isn't Selassie part Oromo, maternally but not actually Oromo?

Why would they clash between themselves? What's the conflict?

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby theyuusuf143 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:09 pm

All I care about is total anarchy , so I can take over hawd and reserved area under one regional administration. Why would I care who is better ruler than who, all these xabashas are the same to me. Yo Waachis take out that woyane and thanks in advance for liberating me too. I owe you one.

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Re: Ethiopian PM declares state of Emergency

Postby Talo alle udaa » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:15 pm

It's mind boggling how old men spend endless hours trolling topics all for jest and amusement.

If you fear an Oromo led Ethiopia--that's fine, say so without beating around the bush. What does Allah have to do with the Xabashi Jalaludiin. If you fear an Oromo led Ethiopia will steal lands you settle then say it, don't say creatoer's name in Jest and play.

The circus that filled the previous three pages revolves around two points.
1-Two Iidoor who belive a Xabashi led Ethiopia will somehow favor Somaliland without saying so plainly, nor expanding on why & the hows.
2-Jalaludiin who fears an Oromo led Ethiopia will encroach on lands some of his people settle.

I believe an Oromo led Ethiopia is the likeliest outcome of the current situation. In what shape or form this will have or how it will impact the Somalis no one knows.

At minimum the TPLF will crown an Oromo prime minister as a way to put breaks on the cart running down heel. A Xabashi led Ethiopia let a lone a monarchy espoused by the two Iidoor will not come to pass as long as the TPLF are in power. The biggest obstacle to a Xabashi led Ethiopia are Tigray who took arms against them 27 years ago. Today they lead the military and share a long border between them. To overlook this monumental obstacle even before talking about what Oromo xabashi tribe will support them is very naive.

This again shows neither Awrastaale nor the old men are serious.


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