UAE Somali Civil War Plan, The Fat Boy Puppet, The Chilling Warning

[Xanuunku]

Still bewildered by the America-UAE-Eritrea-British Axis especially on Eritrea's part.

What tangible benefits has/will Eritrea receive from this access? Anything less than total removal of sanctions seems like a major geopolitical failure on their part. The destruction of Ethiopia or its division worsening was always going to happen regardless of foreign meddling IMO.

[smooth]

Still bewildered by the America-UAE-Eritrea-British Axis especially on Eritrea's part.

What tangible benefits has/will Eritrea receive from this access? Anything less than total removal of sanctions seems like a major geopolitical failure on their part. The destruction of Ethiopia or its division worsening was always going to happen regardless of foreign meddling IMO.

Eritrea was rescued from a self perpetuated death spiral, she lost her shabab project to Ethiopia (whom lost it to UAE) as means of pressuring Ethiopia, all her armed rebel groups became ineffective and were being picked off by the TPLF.

That wasn't enough, the West orchestrated on top of this a weapon of mass immigration on here, the EU accepts Eritrean refugees 95% of the time which lead to the increase flood, her population is just a mere 5 million and soon she would have nobody left.

The threat in Somalia was eliminated and the TPLF were making plans to invade them, she allied with the Iranian's when the war in Yemen started and got a life-line, but then the UAE took over with more cash and threats, it gave her a lease of life, a full resuscitation while she was wallowing in her perpetual death spiral

Now everything has gone 360 and her enemy is burning and she is back to doing what she does best, training rebel groups with UAE support, over 50000 have already received training.

When I list the Axis, the order is important, America-UAE-Eritrea, she is last on the list, just 1 step above being pawns the way Somalia, P/land and S/land are, her influence is very little and grows if the TPLF collapses and a friendly Ethiopia comes about.

Eritrea was never friends with Somalia contrary to popular myth, Somalia was her pawn to keep pressure on the TPLF, there are no permanent friends in this business, just interest.

Until the general populace understands this along with who the enemy is, you never win, because you don't even know who your fighting, or if your even in a fight, not only that but you will be easily duped into advancing the agenda's of others without you even knowing.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[grandpakhalif]

Smooth,

What is KSA's role in this diabolical plan? They recently banned all livestock coming from Somalia and opened a new base in Djibouti..

Are the Saudis working with the American UAE axis?

[smooth]

Smooth,

What is KSA's role in this diabolical plan? They recently banned all livestock coming from Somalia and opened a new base in Djibouti..

Are the Saudis working with the American UAE axis?

This is a good question, the Saudi's are on the side lines for the moment in regards to Somalia, why because I know they are funding Farmaajo and Sh Shariif although very modestly.

This new Saudi prince has a good grasp of geopolitics as we saw with his U turn against Egypt after the previous one gave them 20 billion with no concessions in return, his deals involve concessions and he is a forward thinker with his 2020 vision.

Cracks are appearing, UAE is siding with Egypt which irks the Saudi's, Sisi is even buying German submarines for the first time ever in Egypt history, the only reason would be to use them against the Saudi's and this has made the Royal family nervous as hell, as Sisi is best friends with Israel and now also Iran/Assad.

Remember the Saudi's are allied with the Turks and Qatar in the war in Syria and it was they who brokered peace between UAE and Qatar intense feud while back (sympathetic to Qatar), you also need to realise that the Saudi's in general are far more religious from the top as well as the general populace compared to UAE.

The UAE has french and American bases, the Saudi's don't, they have run out of oil but the Saudi's haven't (explains why they hate Qatar so much), so their interest are divergent especially with the new Saudi prince. On top of this, there is tremendous infighting in Saudi leadership

Then you have missiles being fired at them in Yemen, a restive shia population in their oil rich regions, threats from the Bahrain, Iraqi borders and the quagmire in Syria, they are encircled and have their hands full, hence having a base in Djibouti.

The Chinese are no longer buying the bulk of their oil from Saudi as they did before, they are getting the majority from Russia now, Trump openly stated he would stop buying Saudi oil, they have a 1000 things to worry about then Somalia at the moment, there very survival is at stake.

They are slowly moving into the China-Turkey-Qatar axis which is the opposite of UAE and time will tell, but for now, they are not involved.

[FAH1223]

Smooth,

What is KSA's role in this diabolical plan? They recently banned all livestock coming from Somalia and opened a new base in Djibouti..

Are the Saudis working with the American UAE axis?

This is a good question, the Saudi's are on the side lines for the moment in regards to Somalia, why because I know they are funding Farmaajo and Sh Shariif although very modestly.

This new Saudi prince has a good grasp of geopolitics as we saw with his U turn against Egypt after the previous one gave them 20 billion with no concessions in return, his deals involve concessions and he is a forward thinker with his 2020 vision.

Cracks are appearing, UAE is siding with Egypt which irks the Saudi's, Sisi is even buying German submarines for the first time ever in Egypt history, the only reason would be to use them against the Saudi's and this has made the Royal family nervous as hell, as Sisi is best friends with Israel and now also Iran/Assad.

Remember the Saudi's are allied with the Turks and Qatar in the war in Syria and it was they who brokered peace between UAE and Qatar intense feud while back (sympathetic to Qatar), you also need to realise that the Saudi's in general are far more religious from the top as well as the general populace compared to UAE.

The UAE has french and American bases, the Saudi's don't, they have run out of oil but the Saudi's haven't (explains why they hate Qatar so much), so their interest are divergent especially with the new Saudi prince. On top of this, there is tremendous infighting in Saudi leadership

Then you have missiles being fired at them in Yemen, a restive shia population in their oil rich regions, threats from the Bahrain, Iraqi borders and the quagmire in Syria, they are encircled and have their hands full, hence having a base in Djibouti.

The Chinese are no longer buying the bulk of their oil from Saudi as they did before, they are getting the majority from Russia now, Trump openly stated he would stop buying Saudi oil, they have a 1000 things to worry about then Somalia at the moment, there very survival is at stake.

They are slowly moving into the China-Turkey-Qatar axis which is the opposite of UAE and time will tell, but for now, they are not involved.

The US is now a net exporter of oil and Trump wants to drill for even more. Pipelines are being built all over the country. The US doesn't need Saudi oil... its a huge shift from 8 years ago.

The Saudis have had a hand in many of these quagmires in the Middle East and clandestine support for these extremist groups isn't a secret.

[smooth]

The US is now a net exporter of oil and Trump wants to drill for even more. Pipelines are being built all over the country. The US doesn't need Saudi oil... its a huge shift from 8 years ago.

The Saudis have had a hand in many of these quagmires in the Middle East and clandestine support for these extremist groups isn't a secret.

The USA could have done this a long time ago but choose not to, every attempt at fracking was being blocked, they have been waning off Saudi oil slowly since the prices came down.

But your missing the double whammy here, the USA bought oil from the Saudi's in deals that involved the Saudi's using that money to buy their arms and USA treasuries and depositing them in US owned banks, but the USA backed down from buying their oil gradually.

The Saudi reactionaries as result started buying Russian arms in significant numbers, hence this whole propaganda warfare, demonetisation, JASTA, turning them into pariah state ripe for colour revolution, they have succeeded in this and the same is being done in Thailand and Kenya.

The previous Saudi king was a reckless disaster and a 100% puppet funding terrorists at their behest, this new one did a 360 and is getting rid of all these ineffective incumbent bureaucrats with no vision or plan, hence the vicious attacks and propaganda warfare against them all of a sudden, had he carried on puppeteering for them by supporting their agenda's they wouldn't have done this.

You also don't see the 1000 tiananmen square like moments and breath-taking images captured in Turkey during the July 15 coup attempt because they were behind the coup themselves and offer open sanctuary for all the terror groups and citizenship.

But the tiananmen square image is run down our throats all the time because it serves their agenda, the same way all the Kemalist dreadful leaders in Turkey were never criticised, there was never talk of sanctions, but Erdogan is attacked everyday and threatened with it.

Your attacking the puppet and giving the master a free pass, the previous king funded terrorists because he was told to do so against his interest, just as Musharaf was threatened to provide a base or be bombed to the stone age, it was both against their interests to do this.

What makes the UAE most dangerous is that they are not being forced into this, their very existence is threatened by the Horn of Africa and this happens to aligns with the general American policy for the region to keep the developers out (Turkey, China) and a race to the bottom.

[grandpakhalif]

So Saudis are innocent of any me intermingling in Somalia? Interesting, you are right they are being encircled by enemies frothing at their downfall but this wont happen. Why? Because Uncle Sam has alot to lose if KSA implodes, not because he needs her oil but because his very currency is pegged to the oil sales with OTHER nations, its called petrodollar.

Remember when Gaddafi tried to introduce an African currency pegged to gold? Or when Saddam Hussein tried to trade oil for Euros? You betcha they were bombed to oblivion by NATO and hanged/ had a stick prodded up their ass..

So the Saudis are safe for now with no color revolution s engineered by the West on the way, but hey things may change.

[Halmogg]

Here we go again, blame yourselves first before pointing fingers. You got folks who cant and would never function as a country but keep blaming others as always.

[Lion104]

good analysis.
so whose side is somaliland/djibouti on?

Stick removing that wayone boot of your neck.
Somaliland is part of somalia. Dumb injirely

LOL woyane, the same guys who were just raping somali women and slashing their throats, are barely surviving in ethiopia right now.
the oromo and amhara movements made them withdraw almost entirely from somalia, thus saving more precious somali lives.
you should be grateful for that. in a sense, we liberated somalia more than somalis did.
if somaliland felt they were somalia, which i do believe they are even if they do not feel that way, they would help stabilize somalia, even install an isaaq administration for the sake of peace.

You liberated foreigners but can't liberate yourself? Lol.

[gurey25]

Smooth what do you mean by sisi buying German submarines to use against Saudi?
Last time I checked the Saudis didn't have much of a navy. If you want to interdict oil flow you have to do it in the gulf not the red sea.
And the gulf is a crowded place with NATO and Iranian kilo class subs playing hide and seek.

You also said the Uae is our of oil, dubai is out of oil from a high of 600,000bpd to the current 100,000bpd.
Abudhabi produces about 3 million bpd and reserves are expected to last 100 years. The western fields are huge and provided work for tens of thousands of semi-skilled Somalis for decades till the late 90's.

[smooth]

Smooth what do you mean by sisi buying German submarines to use against Saudi?
Last time I checked the Saudis didn't have much of a navy. If you want to interdict oil flow you have to do it in the gulf not the red sea.
And the gulf is a crowded place with NATO and Iranian kilo class subs playing hide and seek. .

Egypt to receive German submarine in early 2017: navy commander
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/eg ... -commander

I was reading Israeli intelligence Debka files for which I have a subscription and it got them worried too why SISI is all of a sudden buying it, the date pretty much the same time the falling out with the Saudi's when they cut of oil and aid and the Egyptian pounds went into free fall with IMF bailout.

It's not hard to connect both together, The German's are also training them already in how to operate them in combat missions, it only makes sense that it's either against Israel or Saudi Arabia, the former are great friends, the latter bitter enemies now, it's not hard to postulate who they are buying it for and it's destined for the red sea pointing at Saudi coasts.

[Waachis]

Stick removing that wayone boot of your neck.
Somaliland is part of somalia. Dumb injirely

LOL woyane, the same guys who were just raping somali women and slashing their throats, are barely surviving in ethiopia right now.
the oromo and amhara movements made them withdraw almost entirely from somalia, thus saving more precious somali lives.
you should be grateful for that. in a sense, we liberated somalia more than somalis did.
if somaliland felt they were somalia, which i do believe they are even if they do not feel that way, they would help stabilize somalia, even install an isaaq administration for the sake of peace.

You liberated foreigners but can't liberate yourself? Lol.

sad, ain't it?
lol

[gurey25]

Smooth what do you mean by sisi buying German submarines to use against Saudi?
Last time I checked the Saudis didn't have much of a navy. If you want to interdict oil flow you have to do it in the gulf not the red sea.
And the gulf is a crowded place with NATO and Iranian kilo class subs playing hide and seek. .

Egypt to receive German submarine in early 2017: navy commander
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/eg ... -commander

I was reading Israeli intelligence Debka files for which I have a subscription and it got them worried too why SISI is all of a sudden buying it, the date pretty much the same time the falling out with the Saudi's when they cut of oil and aid and the Egyptian pounds went into free fall with IMF bailout.

It's not hard to connect both together, The German's are also training them already in how to operate them in combat missions, it only makes sense that it's either against Israel or Saudi Arabia, the former are great friends, the latter bitter enemies now, it's not hard to postulate who they are buying it for and it's destined for the red sea pointing at Saudi coasts.

I'm not disputing the sale of the submarines, even though debka is a source of misinformation.
I was questioning the utility of them.

[smooth]

I'm not disputing the sale of the submarines, even though debka is a source of misinformation.
I was questioning the utility of them.

Why would sisi spend several 100 millions at the worst time possible when people cannot buy sugar and medicines are scarce on submarines? with the threat of hunger protests looming large? the decision is heavily criticised.

Who is Sisi beefing? who caused his economic collapse to the point the military brass have become highly paranoid including himself? to add to this, the ISIS in the Sinai peninsula stepped up their attacks dramatically.

[gurey25]

Arabs buy weapons for the stupidest reasons.
Even the rafale purchase was questionable.
Us he allied to France? No can they crash the software if they disagree with his behaviour, yes very easily.
You buy weapons from close allies, or build them yourself.
That's what India does and iran.