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Another reason is that daesh is monstrous and alien and will disintegrate when smashed.
Alnusra and ikhwan have done a serious crime in the eyes of the West and isreal.
They have not acted like daesh and won hearts and minds of the people, meaning they will not disintegrate like daesh even when the flow of supplies is cut off.

The west's plan is for a Somalia like situation no authority and zones of control by multiple powers chiefly isreal.

the terrorist gerigoor hasn't got a leg to stand on when crying against mudane assad, especially when ululating for the anti-islam boon afweyne siyaad.......jeberti desert skunks need to chill out

Sahal you ate right sultan erdogan will not let ahrar Al sham and other Muslim brotherhood forces.
This realignment towards Russia is temporary and only happened because the US tried to use him and then coup him when he didn't obey orders.
All this is erdogan telling the West I am in charge and any policy in this region can only be subordinate to him.

As soon as the Kurds are dealt with, erdogan will turn against the Russians and Assad and try to stab them in the back.

He is playing both sides, you have to respect him he is an equal player in the game not a pawn and he is holding superior cards.

great analysis. i have learned how to examine the things from you and others so i believe there is turkey-russian coordination but at this stage turkeys main target is daesh thats why assad is angry. some even believe that he armed daesh in tadmur to use these weapons in al bab!

as you know regime-daesh front in aleppo is calm. daesh have handed over infarty school to regime without fight! this has made the FSA to change its strategy by attack ing daesh from the middle
https://en.zamanalwsl.net/news/19864.html

they r lying. daesh just evacuated it and after some hours both regime and kurds claimed moving into the area. finally kurds handed it over to regime
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article ... kurds-map/

regime, russia and iran have different strategies

the regime strategy towards daesh has changed since russia involved in it. russia believes to use the daesh card by showing some progress in the battle field meantime concentrate more on the rebels in hama, damscus, lattakia, eastern and southren aleppo by following scorched earth policy. this will force the rebels to evacuate each city.

russia plan was to capture daesh urban area(palmyra, kuweires airbase, deir al zour

the regime sees removing daesh means the war will be seen as a war between regime and opposition so they r saying let us first get rid of the rebels and leave daesh as the last file!

another excuse is not having enough number of men to fight in everywhere

now regime understands the turkey motivations....90% of daesh held area is sunni arab areas the rest 10 is kurds....its called badiyat al sham the syrian desert there is no other religious sects so naturally it will go to the FSA

thats why regime needs to arm daesh with tanks to defend raqa and north aleppo

iran has some agenda of syria and iraq in exchange of yemen

if saudis accept this deal, iran is ready to change the regime in syria. assad will go but another alawite or even shia will replace him and there will be ahrar pm. some govt like lebanon

so assad is not happy about iran negotiations with ahrar in fua&kafraya matters

Sahal you ate right sultan erdogan will not let ahrar Al sham and other Muslim brotherhood forces.
This realignment towards Russia is temporary and only happened because the US tried to use him and then coup him when he didn't obey orders.
All this is erdogan telling the West I am in charge and any policy in this region can only be subordinate to him.

As soon as the Kurds are dealt with, erdogan will turn against the Russians and Assad and try to stab them in the back.

He is playing both sides, you have to respect him he is an equal player in the game not a pawn and he is holding superior cards.

great analysis. i have learned how to examine the things from you and others so i believe there is turkey-russian coordination but at this stage turkeys main target is daesh thats why assad is angry. some even believe that he armed daesh in tadmur to use these weapons in al bab!

as you know regime-daesh front in aleppo is calm. daesh have handed over infarty school to regime without fight! this has made the FSA to change its strategy by attack ing daesh from the middle
https://en.zamanalwsl.net/news/19864.html

they r lying. daesh just evacuated it and after some hours both regime and kurds claimed moving into the area. finally kurds handed it over to regime
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article ... kurds-map/

regime, russia and iran have different strategies

the regime strategy towards daesh has changed since russia involved in it. russia believes to use the daesh card by showing some progress in the battle field meantime concentrate more on the rebels in hama, damscus, lattakia, eastern and southren aleppo by following scorched earth policy. this will force the rebels to evacuate each city.

russia plan was to capture daesh urban area(palmyra, kuweires airbase, deir al zour

the regime sees removing daesh means the war will be seen as a war between regime and opposition so they r saying let us first get rid of the rebels and leave daesh as the last file!

another excuse is not having enough number of men to fight in everywhere

now regime understands the turkey motivations....90% of daesh held area is sunni arab areas the rest 10 is kurds....its called badiyat al sham the syrian desert there is no other religious sects so naturally it will go to the FSA

thats why regime needs to arm daesh with tanks to defend raqa and north aleppo

iran has some agenda of syria and iraq in exchange of yemen

if saudis accept this deal, iran is ready to change the regime in syria. assad will go but another alawite or even shia will replace him and there will be ahrar pm. some govt like lebanon

so assad is not happy about iran negotiations with ahrar in fua&kafraya matters

Are you saying that the SAA left its positions in Palmyra and left mass ammunitions and tanks to help Daesh fight Turkey and the FSA?

Russia says they bombed the shid out of ISIS in Eastern Homs.

arming daesh to stop the FSA?



among them 44 tanks, anti-tank missiles

turkish intelligence said regime has handed over to daesh MANPADS


https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2016/12- ... zed-plenty


https://mobile.twitter.com/Ieh30/status ... 16/photo/1



funny a christian syrian with the name laith abu faadil runs this site!
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article ... d-palmyra/

palmyra/

So basically

Assad controls 70% of the population at this point with all of the major Syrian cities under his control.

The FSA/Turkish alliances is aiming to take over Northern Aleppo province and marching to Raqqa.

The Kurds have their own areas marked in the north and been fighting FSA/Turkey

Idlib is under rebel control with infighting happening between groups.

palmyra/

So basically

Assad controls 70% of the population at this point with all of the major Syrian cities under his control.

The FSA/Turkish alliances is aiming to take over Northern Aleppo province and marching to Raqqa.

The Kurds have their own areas marked in the north and been fighting FSA/Turkey

Idlib is under rebel control with infighting happening between groups.

lol no way. Regime controls population centers not the provinces. for example before his last gains he was controlling 13% of the aleppo province. population of aleppo city is 2 million. countryside has 3 million
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58F1B364

the reason regime controls population centers is due to the sunni business men supporting him. all aleppo factories are found on the west side. east side r poor people. in the middle are found an area totally depend on the regime like the 3000 housing project and 1700 housing project, military housings, al assad suburb. all of them fight for the regime bc they fear losing of their lands. xisbul bacth bases. there is a isolated kurdish sheikh masoud area who control themselves....they come from the nothern country side. when regime get closer at castilo road they backstabbed the rebels

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/blogs/2016/1 ... 9%8A%D8%A9


assad contols more damascus province apart from qalamoun, eastern ghouta, southern country side. there are non war zones like al tal

lattakia, suwayda,

rebels control 90 of qunaytira, the whole idlib, much of daraa, nothern hama, nothern homs, southern aleppo country side all of them have big populations

last year a white guy who make war maps, hes even inclined to the regime as he calls them SAA wrote this

40% of pop under Assad, 25% Rebels, 20% IS, 15% Kurd

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58EE0858

So basically

Assad controls 70% of the population at this point with all of the major Syrian cities under his control.

The FSA/Turkish alliances is aiming to take over Northern Aleppo province and marching to Raqqa.

The Kurds have their own areas marked in the north and been fighting FSA/Turkey

Idlib is under rebel control with infighting happening between groups.

lol no way. Regime controls population centers not the provinces. for example before his last gains he was controlling 13% of the aleppo province. population of aleppo city is 2 million. countryside has 3 million
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58F1B364

the reason regime controls population centers is due to the sunni business men supporting him. all aleppo factories are found on the west side. east side r poor people. in the middle are found an area totally depend on the regime like the 3000 housing project and 1700 housing project, military housings, al assad suburb. all of them fight for the regime bc they fear losing of their lands. xisbul bacth bases. there is a isolated kurdish sheikh masoud area who control themselves....they come from the nothern country side. when regime get closer at castilo road they backstabbed the rebels

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/blogs/2016/1 ... 9%8A%D8%A9


assad contols more damascus province apart from qalamoun, eastern ghouta, southern country side. there are non war zones like al tal

lattakia, suwayda,

rebels control 90 of qunaytira, the whole idlib, much of daraa, nothern hama, nothern homs, southern aleppo country side all of them have big populations

last year a white guy who make war maps, hes even inclined to the regime as he calls them SAA wrote this

40% of pop under Assad, 25% Rebels, 20% IS, 15% Kurd

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58EE0858

Yeah, I meant to say, he controls 70% of the population centers as he controls the urban areas of the biggest cities.

So, Sahal, where do you see the war going now? Aleppo is a symbolic victory but it doesn't really change things. SAA is over stretched, they can't take over Idlib.

wallahi you guys know better than me when it comes to russia and turkey but i think syria will be divided military wise; turkey will take eastern syria and russia western syria(from damascus to lattakia plus alghab plain) hama-aleppo highway. city of homs, city of hama.. rest ceasefire

what is happening now is getting rid of extremist and radical groups including al jawlani group and renstalling the FSA and ahrar asham under turkey hegemony, its a turkey and russian deal also the west/UN wants to get rid of al nusra and other radical groups in aleppo

this is a russian operation par exellence, regime is worry about what will happen if the extremists were eliminated

when assad planes targeted the turkish army erdogan received a call from putin then lavrov visited ankara

alot of groups like ahrar have pulled out their fighters from southren aleppo and parts of idlib to join the euphrates shield. without this eastren aleppo could have been safed but they said to sheikh muhaysi sorry we cant!

Russia cannot defeat the syrian rebels all she wants is to keep its stooges in damascus not necessary assad .....assad will stay in the transitional govt. russians r suggesting a sunni pm like lebanon

so why aleppo? russians wanted to make some gains before any political settlement to negotiate from a strong position but losing palmyra and now daesh has reached al qaryatan gates will make them look weaker
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58BABE8B

if FSA reaches raqa and moves to eastern syria it will be uselesss for russia to think of idlib

but we know one side must win in syria.

So basically

Assad controls 70% of the population at this point with all of the major Syrian cities under his control.

The FSA/Turkish alliances is aiming to take over Northern Aleppo province and marching to Raqqa.

The Kurds have their own areas marked in the north and been fighting FSA/Turkey

Idlib is under rebel control with infighting happening between groups.

lol no way. Regime controls population centers not the provinces. for example before his last gains he was controlling 13% of the aleppo province. population of aleppo city is 2 million. countryside has 3 million
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58F1B364

the reason regime controls population centers is due to the sunni business men supporting him. all aleppo factories are found on the west side. east side r poor people. in the middle are found an area totally depend on the regime like the 3000 housing project and 1700 housing project, military housings, al assad suburb. all of them fight for the regime bc they fear losing of their lands. xisbul bacth bases. there is a isolated kurdish sheikh masoud area who control themselves....they come from the nothern country side. when regime get closer at castilo road they backstabbed the rebels

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/blogs/2016/1 ... 9%8A%D8%A9


assad contols more damascus province apart from qalamoun, eastern ghouta, southern country side. there are non war zones like al tal

lattakia, suwayda,

rebels control 90 of qunaytira, the whole idlib, much of daraa, nothern hama, nothern homs, southern aleppo country side all of them have big populations

last year a white guy who make war maps, hes even inclined to the regime as he calls them SAA wrote this

40% of pop under Assad, 25% Rebels, 20% IS, 15% Kurd

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58EE0858

Yeah, I meant to say, he controls 70% of the population centers as he controls the urban areas of the biggest cities.

So, Sahal, where do you see the war going now? Aleppo is a symbolic victory but it doesn't really change things. SAA is over stretched, they can't take over Idlib.

Fah, this is not lattakia, not even aleppo where you have palestinian pockets such as mukhayam haydarat and the kurds who contributed to its siege, closest pro-regime spot is the zahraa neighboutrhood of homs. the whole homs desert are found pro-daesh towns and bedouin tribes. regime media calls it ربط الاوصال بين خلايا داعش النائمة
connecting daesh peripheries
in this region, they act like the islamic courts..its not outside attack. last time when daesh captured al qaryatayn, stright maheen and hawaren have declated their allegiance to daesh

that why regime has first secured palmyra from the west side before al qaryatayn

why they support daesh? they r against the NDF from the christian sadad, maloula in qalamoun

the bedoun are at war with the druze in eastern suwayda

plus the bedouns sell the daesh oil to suwayda and from there the druz distribute it to the regime-held areas like damascus. its called daesh mazoot

so in this isolation, the russians have rejected any deployment of local/sunni militias for their own safety. the only militias in there were from lattakia and hizbullah. to defend a town you need local forces. thats why its impossible for the regime to control tadmur

this article was published last may and has predicted alot

التواجد العسكري داخل تدمر، انحصر بالقوات الروسية، بشكل أساسي، برفقة مجموعات مقاتلة من مليشيات النظام السوري "الموثوق" بها، خوفاً من أي اختراق أمني. وتمّ نقل مقاتلين في قوات النظام ومليشياته، من أبناء تدمر، إلى مناطق أخرى بعيدة. فروسيا تخشى إمكانية تجنيد التنظيم لأحد أبناء تدمر في قوات النظام، لنقل المعلومات وتسريبها. الهلع الروسي من خسارات بشرية في صفوف القوات الروسية، دفع حتى إلى إبعاد المليشيات العراقية واللبنانية بعيداً عن تدمر. وكانت وزارة الدفاع الروسية قد أعلنت الأربعاء عن مقتل عسكري روسي في ريف حمص.
http://www.almodon.com/print/607ac4ab-1 ... 40d0cdc3a5

Fah, this is not lattakia, not even aleppo where you have palestinian pockets such as mukhayam haydarat and the kurds who contributed to its siege, closest pro-regime spot is the zahraa neighboutrhood of homs. the whole homs desert are found pro-daesh towns and bedouin tribes. regime media calls it ربط الاوصال بين خلايا داعش النائمة
connecting daesh peripheries
in this region, they act like the islamic courts..its not outside attack. last time when daesh captured al qaryatayn, stright maheen and hawaren have declated their allegiance to daesh

that why regime has first secured palmyra from the west side before al qaryatayn

why they support daesh? they r against the NDF from the christian sadad, maloula in qalamoun

the bedoun are at war with the druze in eastern suwayda

plus the bedouns sell the daesh oil to suwayda and from there the druz distribute it to the regime-held areas like damascus. its called daesh mazoot

so in this isolation, the russians have rejected any deployment of local/sunni militias for their own safety. the only militias in there were from lattakia and hizbullah. to defend a town you need local forces. thats why its impossible for the regime to control tadmur

this article was published last may and has predicted alot

التواجد العسكري داخل تدمر، انحصر بالقوات الروسية، بشكل أساسي، برفقة مجموعات مقاتلة من مليشيات النظام السوري "الموثوق" بها، خوفاً من أي اختراق أمني. وتمّ نقل مقاتلين في قوات النظام ومليشياته، من أبناء تدمر، إلى مناطق أخرى بعيدة. فروسيا تخشى إمكانية تجنيد التنظيم لأحد أبناء تدمر في قوات النظام، لنقل المعلومات وتسريبها. الهلع الروسي من خسارات بشرية في صفوف القوات الروسية، دفع حتى إلى إبعاد المليشيات العراقية واللبنانية بعيداً عن تدمر. وكانت وزارة الدفاع الروسية قد أعلنت الأربعاء عن مقتل عسكري روسي في ريف حمص.
http://www.almodon.com/print/607ac4ab-1 ... 40d0cdc3a5