reality check about the pm

[sahal80]

Abgaals hold key positions in xamar like the army, police, ddistrict commissioners, shaqaalaha, ports and bank due to their 8 years tenure as president

therefore, any govt without their support may struggle ....

but if the pm is abgaal he will be more stronger than the president due to caasamida, their first clash will be on the funds and who has more funds will be stronger. this is about the local revenue andim sure abgaal will keep it 100%

foreign funds, abgaal pm will make contracts remember when geedi kept for himself the $30m from saudi arabia

so i dont see how can farmajo implement the change hes talking about within an unukaeh system

ali osooble said to his abgaal deputy in jowhar i know how to deal with the diplomats and NGOs bc i have been working with the long time leave them for me i will keep for your share and deal with your abgaal affairs and jowhar admin i deal with hiiraan clans and he said


like that mx will deal with their clan affairs, IN REALITY, what change can happen in xamar?

but if he picks a HG pm and interior abgaal it will look like more darod-hawiye powersharing

when of my HG friends used to say we have made xamar a hawiye/hiraab town, making it easy to become a somaliwayn town

another note there is a chemical romance between HG and MX and farmajo has become president due to them looking for the pm post(daljir)

any other option like murursade or hawadle farmajo will lose all


my two cents without grudge against any group.

thanks bigbreak for posting this link

https://mareeg.com/somalia-who-will-far ... e-as-a-pm/

[BigBreak]

Sahal shouldn't somalians look at France whereby the two powerful positions ( President and prime minister) work with each other depending on whether one political party control both the presidency and the parliament at the same time

[sahal80]

Sahal shouldn't somalians look at France whereby the two powerful positions ( President and prime minister) work with each other depending on whether one political party control both the presidency and the parliament at the same time

thank you sxb

[JSL3000]

Farmaagio wife is mursade al hawiye mostly like a mursade pm.

[mahadalla]

Abgaals hold key positions in xamar like the army, police, ddistrict commissioners, shaqaalaha, ports and bank due to their 8 years tenure as president

therefore, any govt without their support may struggle ....

but if the pm is abgaal he will be more stronger than the president due to caasamida, their first clash will be on the funds and who has more funds will be stronger. this is about the local revenue andim sure abgaal will keep it 100%

foreign funds, abgaal pm will make contracts remember when geedi kept for himself the $30m from saudi arabia

so i dont see how can farmajo implement the change hes talking about within an unukaeh system

ali osooble said to his abgaal deputy in jowhar i know how to deal with the diplomats and NGOs bc i have been working with the long time leave them for me i will keep for your share and deal with your abgaal affairs and jowhar admin i deal with hiiraan clans and he said


like that mx will deal with their clan affairs, IN REALITY, what change can happen in xamar?

but if he picks a HG pm and interior abgaal it will look like more darod-hawiye powersharing

when of my HG friends used to say we have made xamar a hawiye/hiraab town, making it easy to become a somaliwayn town

another note there is a chemical romance between HG and MX and farmajo has become president due to them looking for the pm post(daljir)

any other option like murursade or hawadle farmajo will lose all


my two cents without grudge against any group.

thanks bigbreak for posting this link

https://mareeg.com/somalia-who-will-far ... e-as-a-pm/

When people who don't know nothing about Xamar political power and HG and Abgaal, and they want to analyse things they don't know it's a a laugher. Mudulood PM or HG won't make a difference if one of them apposed his government will fall. Abgaal is not in Mogadishu only they are in shabeelada hoose and hiiraan and HG not only Mogadishu but till baraawe shabeeladahoose they are easy reach to Kismayu when you take out shabaab and Kikuyu elements.

Also bad analysis Fiqi cannot be a PM Sacad sits on Galmudug president seat, so Cabdi shakuur would of have a chance but entire HG are against him so it have to be someone else from ceyr saleebaan Saruur or Duduble if the PM position is going to HG.

Second mogadishu port security is own by HG Saleebaan clan to be exact Furux and Maxamed Cabdi Kaahiye. that is why they have to have Maareeye or Maareeye ku xigeenka since they take over the Port in 1991.

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

Sahal shouldn't somalians look at France whereby the two powerful positions ( President and prime minister) work with each other depending on whether one political party control both the presidency and the parliament at the same time

thank you sxb

He ask u a Question, not give you a compliment.

[sahal80]

Abgaals hold key positions in xamar like the army, police, ddistrict commissioners, shaqaalaha, ports and bank due to their 8 years tenure as president

therefore, any govt without their support may struggle ....

but if the pm is abgaal he will be more stronger than the president due to caasamida, their first clash will be on the funds and who has more funds will be stronger. this is about the local revenue andim sure abgaal will keep it 100%

foreign funds, abgaal pm will make contracts remember when geedi kept for himself the $30m from saudi arabia

so i dont see how can farmajo implement the change hes talking about within an unukaeh system

ali osooble said to his abgaal deputy in jowhar i know how to deal with the diplomats and NGOs bc i have been working with the long time leave them for me i will keep for your share and deal with your abgaal affairs and jowhar admin i deal with hiiraan clans and he said


like that mx will deal with their clan affairs, IN REALITY, what change can happen in xamar?

but if he picks a HG pm and interior abgaal it will look like more darod-hawiye powersharing

when of my HG friends used to say we have made xamar a hawiye/hiraab town, making it easy to become a somaliwayn town

another note there is a chemical romance between HG and MX and farmajo has become president due to them looking for the pm post(daljir)

any other option like murursade or hawadle farmajo will lose all


my two cents without grudge against any group.

thanks bigbreak for posting this link

https://mareeg.com/somalia-who-will-far ... e-as-a-pm/

When people who don't know nothing about Xamar political power and HG and Abgaal, and they want to analyse things they don't know it's a a laugher. Mudulood PM or HG won't make a difference if one of them apposed his government will fall. Abgaal is not in Mogadishu only they are in shabeelada hoose and hiiraan and HG not only Mogadishu but till baraawe shabeeladahoose they are easy reach to Kismayu when you take out shabaab and Kikuyu elements.

Also bad analysis Fiqi cannot be a PM Sacad sits on Galmudug president seat, so Cabdi shakuur would of have a chance but entire HG are against him so it have to be someone else from ceyr saleebaan Saruur or Duduble if the PM position is going to HG.

Second mogadishu port security is own by HG Saleebaan clan to be exact Furux and Maxamed Cabdi Kaahiye. that is why they have to have Maareeye or Maareeye ku xigeenka since they take over the Port in 1991.

kkkkk fatadhuglayntaas aniga iguma socoto. what we r talking about is dawlada xamar where abgaal constitute the majority. right now farmajos first appointmentsare abgaal and mx. garguurtes nephew thabid abdi as his chief staff and gen caanood as his chief security.

kkkkk HG had no influence in dekada since the ethiopian invasion it was run by harti abgaals like abdi jiinow and dhagaxtuur. the former was powerful to the point he was appointed for jowhar and was given huge money in exchange of the port. dhagaxtuur has militia in there now as agaasimaha gaadiidka. now everything is waceysle
http://newbanaadir.blogspot.co.uk/2015/ ... a.html?m=1

HG had police under qaybdiid and was removed by sharif slowly appointing him as finance minister then he was fired and moved to GM

lost NISA under gargurte. all the NGOs r abgaal

HG r busy on business and real estates this is not dawlad. 70% of the army and police r abgaal you need people who can communicate with them. its very serious and even this article mentions. we r not talking about civilian upraising just the system

lastly the pm is not allocated for any jufo waa la shaqeystaa, faqi waa shaqeesteen do whatever you like in GM!

Sahal shouldn't somalians look at France whereby the two powerful positions ( President and prime minister) work with each other depending on whether one political party control both the presidency and the parliament at the same time

thank you sxb

He ask u a Question, not give you a compliment.

lol i know but i had no answer for french model

[Khalid Ali]

goood points i think he would go for a hg pm u put it well the plausible scenarios. i know mj will be his biggest rival and in order to counter that i think he will pick a hg pm. abgaal has no chance and abgaal will be forced to support farmajo because shabaab is no option for them. but abgaal will not eat well and less projects aid money corruption will go to them.

[sahal80]

goood points i think he would go for a hg pm u put it well the plausible scenarios. i know mj will be his biggest rival and in order to counter that i think he will pick a hg pm. abgaal has no chance and abgaal will be forced to support farmajo because shabaab is no option for them. but abgaal will not eat well and less projects aid money corruption will go to them.

for out side it looks like HG pm will be more strong but the insiders say the best its 50/50 but an abgaal pm its his goof and can be contacted by ethiopia who says xamar is an abgaal town. telling the IC the president is wrong if any clash happens. more than this how can farmajo make a change if he even fears the pm?

this 50/50 is ok since they both share more in common. if HG allocated for mx more seats in GM per subclan would they be against them in xamar? dont think so.

best piece of advice
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 1546779374

[BosasoShaam]

We all know the next 4 years will be MJ vs MX.

Welcome back to late 1960s.

[mahadalla]

Abgaals hold key positions in xamar like the army, police, ddistrict commissioners, shaqaalaha, ports and bank due to their 8 years tenure as president

therefore, any govt without their support may struggle ....

but if the pm is abgaal he will be more stronger than the president due to caasamida, their first clash will be on the funds and who has more funds will be stronger. this is about the local revenue andim sure abgaal will keep it 100%

foreign funds, abgaal pm will make contracts remember when geedi kept for himself the $30m from saudi arabia

so i dont see how can farmajo implement the change hes talking about within an unukaeh system

ali osooble said to his abgaal deputy in jowhar i know how to deal with the diplomats and NGOs bc i have been working with the long time leave them for me i will keep for your share and deal with your abgaal affairs and jowhar admin i deal with hiiraan clans and he said


like that mx will deal with their clan affairs, IN REALITY, what change can happen in xamar?

but if he picks a HG pm and interior abgaal it will look like more darod-hawiye powersharing

when of my HG friends used to say we have made xamar a hawiye/hiraab town, making it easy to become a somaliwayn town

another note there is a chemical romance between HG and MX and farmajo has become president due to them looking for the pm post(daljir)

any other option like murursade or hawadle farmajo will lose all


my two cents without grudge against any group.

thanks bigbreak for posting this link

https://mareeg.com/somalia-who-will-far ... e-as-a-pm/

When people who don't know nothing about Xamar political power and HG and Abgaal, and they want to analyse things they don't know it's a a laugher. Mudulood PM or HG won't make a difference if one of them apposed his government will fall. Abgaal is not in Mogadishu only they are in shabeelada hoose and hiiraan and HG not only Mogadishu but till baraawe shabeeladahoose they are easy reach to Kismayu when you take out shabaab and Kikuyu elements.

Also bad analysis Fiqi cannot be a PM Sacad sits on Galmudug president seat, so Cabdi shakuur would of have a chance but entire HG are against him so it have to be someone else from ceyr saleebaan Saruur or Duduble if the PM position is going to HG.

Second mogadishu port security is own by HG Saleebaan clan to be exact Furux and Maxamed Cabdi Kaahiye. that is why they have to have Maareeye or Maareeye ku xigeenka since they take over the Port in 1991.

kkkkk fatadhuglayntaas aniga iguma socoto. what we r talking about is dawlada xamar where abgaal constitute the majority. right now farmajos first appointmentsare abgaal and mx. garguurtes nephew thabid abdi as his chief staff and gen caanood as his chief security.

kkkkk HG had no influence in dekada since the ethiopian invasion it was run by harti abgaals like abdi jiinow and dhagaxtuur. the former was powerful to the point he was appointed for jowhar and was given huge money in exchange of the port. dhagaxtuur has militia in there now as agaasimaha gaadiidka. now everything is waceysle
http://newbanaadir.blogspot.co.uk/2015/ ... a.html?m=1

HG had police under qaybdiid and was removed by sharif slowly appointing him as finance minister then he was fired and moved to GM

lost NISA under gargurte. all the NGOs r abgaal

HG r busy on business and real estates this is not dawlad. 70% of the army and police r abgaal you need people who can communicate with them. its very serious and even this article mentions. we r not talking about civilian upraising just the system

lastly the pm is not allocated for any jufo waa la shaqeystaa, faqi waa shaqeesteen do whatever you like in GM!

thank you sxb

He ask u a Question, not give you a compliment.

lol i know but i had no answer for french model

Fadhi kudidir analysis Ethiopian envation 2006? , it was only 2010 yesterday when Sheekh shariifs governments wasaarada maaaliyada tried to take dakada income from Furux saleeban clan warlord and we knew what happened he shudwon.

http://www.keydmedia.net/news/article/f ... sho_xiray/

it shows you are clueless, dakada security is under one men's hand Axmed cabdi Kaariye

http://allgalgaduud.com/2016/09/dhageys ... -shaqeeyo/

https://goobjooge.com/degdeg-doorashada ... a-cadaado/

Caruur baa aabayashood ka dhaxlay ilaalinta dakada police na Ku noqday, sheekada qiyaaliga fadhi kudirir analysis badalimayso facts

[sahal80]

ciyaal fadhi ku dirirka yaa meeshayda tusay

war ha iga wasaqaynin boga biimaal markii labaad afgooye kugu weerartey power aan jirin iyo baqbaqdaada lana dhaaf

is this saleebaan? dekadaa sheegee xamar jajab baa saleebaan laga qaatey ciidamo muungaab ka keenay ceelmacaan. madax adeegii reer mudug baa meesha la soo gashay kkkkk
https://allmogport.wordpress.com/2009/1 ... aha-dalka/

banadir police isbaaro kulahaa waxaas xiligii tarsan baa u danbaysey kkkk
http://www.dhacdo.org/ciidamada-dowladd ... g-sawirka/
http://warsheekh.com/articles/2924/Daga ... -Muhiim-ah

[FarhanYare]

goood points i think he would go for a hg pm u put it well the plausible scenarios. i know mj will be his biggest rival and in order to counter that i think he will pick a hg pm. abgaal has no chance and abgaal will be forced to support farmajo because shabaab is no option for them. but abgaal will not eat well and less projects aid money corruption will go to them.

It will be abgaal pm stay tuned

[TheblueNwhite]

Abgaal ha dhaco! Shouldve been the thread title.

We need atleast 10 threads a day to stay relevant. Keep them coming.