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End of federalism?

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End of federalism?

Postby BigBreak » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:49 am

Is this the end of (clan) federalism

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/ar ... g-act.html
While Farmajo favours a strong central government, Somalia has in recent years shifted towards a system of federalism.
MJs are looking to threaten cheese

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby Strategic » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:53 am

nope,federalism will continue to work,hard hard has been done to create these federal states ,the latest being hirshabelle and jubbaland.they are here to stay.

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby bumps » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:15 pm

nope,federalism will continue to work,hard hard has been done to create these federal states ,the latest being hirshabelle and jubbaland.they are here to stay.
Why do you support federalism.

it only works with a civilised country.. not a country like somalia

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby Strategic » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:19 pm

because we need realpolitik,why have already spent resources on federal structure ,why undo it? if the people are happy,the gov should abide by the wil of the people,the era of central gov which every faction feels isolated is over.federalism is here to stay and hope farmajo is clever enough to understand.besides federalism takes away pressure of funds from mogadishu,only outside funds should be shared not locally generated funds,there is no way i will eat taxes collected from bosaso or jowhar and vice versa.

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby BigBreak » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:26 pm

somalia is a homogenous place as nearly everyone is from one ethnic group and everyone is Muslim - there's no differences between clans to justify apartheid style segregation and bantustans

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby MayDay777 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:36 pm

Fuck federalism it is cancer for small homogeneous countries like Somalia. If we were like China Russia and USA who are the 3 biggest countries in the world we would need Federalism but we are more like France and Italy

We need to be like Japan and Germany and othe countries with centralized power. They are homogeneous and a meritocracy.

We will never advance with federalism. Death to 4.5 death to federalism

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby Strategic » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:53 pm

somalia is a homogenous place as nearly everyone is from one ethnic group and everyone is Muslim - there's no differences between clans to justify apartheid style segregation and bantustans
it is the only way to balance check and also solves the status of SL as autonomous federal state as zanzibar in tanzania.

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby GalliumerianSlayer » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:49 pm

At this point of time, federalism is the only solution.

Fuck federalism it is cancer for small homogeneous countries like Somalia. If we were like China Russia and USA who are the 3 biggest countries in the world we would need Federalism but we are more like France and Italy

We need to be like Japan and Germany and othe countries with centralized power. They are homogeneous and a meritocracy.

We will never advance with federalism. Death to 4.5 death to federalism
Less than a year you were advocating for K5 to be part of a federal state within Somalia :notsure:

And this comment within 3 days.

there won't be a break up of ethiopia any time soon.. amhara rebellion is dead only amhara can challenge tigre no oromo no gurage. but if ethiopoa collapses no chance isaaq gadabursi or ciise to be part of a ogaden state. the people have no commen interest just were kept together by an ethiopian empire
Who made you the spokes man of Dir? And weren't you calling Gadabursi Qudhunbuursi the other day? Nice flip flopping

We aren't going to force anyone sxb. Abasame land is already huge as is and we control the most strategic parts ie Jigjiga, the gas reserves and the Shabelle river. Wixii baxaya ha baxo

But before anything happens we will sign the land to Xamar, plant the blue flag everywhere and become a federal state of Somalia. Isaaq Dir Darood all will be part of Somalia by force

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby MayDay777 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:08 pm

Nah that's just implication that I would rather be a federal state of Somalia than Ethiopia. Read between the lines next time

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby Strategic » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:27 pm

Nah that's just implication that I would rather be a federal state of Somalia than Ethiopia. Read between the lines next time

arent you female? i remember you well.

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby MayDay777 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:38 pm

After reading the article I conclude that bakhti dailymail and their think tanks are 100% against Somali nationalism and are sucking Ethiopian ceeb. f-king white trash and their love for injirley is truly amazing

@Strategic/blood im not

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:49 pm

Ethiopia ha burburto :stylin:

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby sahal80 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:26 pm

because we need realpolitik,why have already spent resources on federal structure ,why undo it? if the people are happy,the gov should abide by the wil of the people,the era of central gov which every faction feels isolated is over.federalism is here to stay and hope farmajo is clever enough to understand.besides federalism takes away pressure of funds from mogadishu,only outside funds should be shared not locally generated funds,there is no way i will eat taxes collected from bosaso or jowhar and vice versa.
i agree with you, today i im more connected to hiirshabelle than xamar but one thing i disagree is FMS leaders going to abroad like the UAE. its ok to meet the diplomats in mogadishu and in their regions bc this weak govt cant cover economically with all regions.

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby Strategic » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:48 pm

yeah,FS Should concern with local issues and gov with foreign issues.

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Re: End of federalism?

Postby Geeljire252 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:19 pm

Fuck federalism it is cancer for small homogeneous countries like Somalia. If we were like China Russia and USA who are the 3 biggest countries in the world we would need Federalism but we are more like France and Italy

We need to be like Japan and Germany and othe countries with centralized power. They are homogeneous and a meritocracy.

We will never advance with federalism. Death to 4.5 death to federalism
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