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Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Waachis » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:58 pm

''Several, certainly, but probably many, centuries before Christ Semites from Yemen in South Arabia left their lands on the shores of the Red Sea and crossed over into Africa. Among these people the tribe called ''Habashat'' was the most important, and as already said, the name ''Abyssinia'' is derived from ''Habesh'', a form of Habashat. With the Habashat Semites, or perhaps following them, several other tribes migrated from Arabia into Africa; these were known as the ''Ag'aziyan,'' or ''the free'' and the Ethiopic language is called ''Ge'ez'' after them. The Habashat when they entered Africa found that the people they intended to settle among, and probably to conquer, were to all intents and purposes savages and barbarians, who knew nothing about working in metals, who lived in huts, and whose agricultural methods were of the most primitive civilziation into Abyssinia.'

[A History of Ethiopia: Volume I (Routledge Revivals): Nubia and Abyssinia; pages 128-130]

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby PanSomaliNationalist » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:02 am

No one denied that though

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby paperino » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:58 am

No one denied that though
Does science (dna, haplogroup, etc) support it?

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Django » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:03 am

Waachis ia there a proof that Iromos cane from Madagascar?

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Waachis » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:37 pm

Waachis ia there a proof that Iromos cane from Madagascar?
no.

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Samsee » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:48 pm

xabashi's never came from arabia they mixed with people from arabia two different things

they occupied good land that naturally attracted foreigners since it was more fertile than all of arabia and equal to the levant in natural richness

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Waachis » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:33 pm

xabashi's never came from arabia they mixed with people from arabia two different things

they occupied good land that naturally attracted foreigners since it was more fertile than all of arabia and equal to the levant in natural richness
https://wisethedome.wordpress.com/2012/ ... abyssinia/


read for yourself. there's historical proof to back up my claims, what proof do u have for urs?

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby AwRastaale » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:04 pm

There's no proof and it's no different than the Oromo Madagascar story.

Surely people travelled back and forth but nothing substitanial.

If they were Arabs they would be 50% of what Algeria, Egypt, Morocco or Libya are today (arrived some 500 years later to this gossip story).

And Habesh is not derived from Abyssinia because the two are from two different languages; Greek and classical Arabic.

Agazi is Turkish word and was introduced to the region during the Ottoman empire in Eritrean coast (Massawa). They used it as a title for the soldiers and the Tigringya speaking Kebessa adopted before it made its way to Tigray.
The founder of the Ottoman principality, Osman I, was agazi leader. The Ottomans were able to continue the policy of holy war as long as they remained ...
- The A to Z of the Ottoman Empire - Page 120

Gaza is actually the Turkish word for Jihad and the soldier was Agazi.

Amhara do not use that.

Do more studies my friend.

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Waachis » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:37 pm

Amin Tawfiq Al-Tayyibi – a Palestinian university professor at Oxford says:

“The land that is now known as Ethiopia was known to the Arabs in pre-Islamic times only as Al-Habasha and from this Arabic word for the name of the area, the Europeans got their name for the area – Abyssinia. The Arabic name Al-Habasha comes from the tribe Habshat that entered the area from Yemen (Mahra Hadramout or Tihama Yemen) in the millennium before the birth of Christ (AS) . They settled in the Eritrean highlands and the area of Tigrai – the northern hills of Abyssinia. Aksum, which was one of their kingdoms, became well-know the first century after the birth of Christ (AS). “

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The British historian A. Paul says in his book The History of the Beja Tribes of the Eastern Sudan:

“The Sabeans, who were the main power in the southern part of the Arabian Peninsula, crossed the Red Sea in search of trade and they occupied the Dahlak Archipelago. From there they penetrated deeply into the interior and settled in the land of Tigrai, which is found in what is called Eritrea and Ethiopia today. This happened long before the coming of Christ (AS) – perhaps in 1000 B.C. or 600 B.C.”

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Doctor Jawad Ali says in his book Details About the History of the Arabs Before Islam:

“The relations between the Arabs and the Abyssinians were old, well-known relations which go back to times before Christ (AS). There were strong contacts and exchanges of citizens between the coastal towns of the Arabian Peninsula and the facing coastal towns of Africa because the Arabs of the southern part of the Arabian Peninsula migrated to the African coast and formed communities there. Also Africans migrated to the southern part of the Arabian Peninsula and ruled it time and time again. The last time that they ruled the area was a short time before the Islamic period. Some researchers believe that the origin of the Abyssinians (AlHabash) is from the western part of Yemen from the foot of the mountains. There is a mountain in Yemen called Mount ‘Hubaish’ . Perhaps there is a connection between the name of this mountain and the Habash (Abyssinians) who emigrated to Africa and gave their name to the land that adopted their name – Habshat or Al-Habasha. They also say that Ge’ez or Ge’ezan, as they are also called, are Cesani who Pliiny (23–79 AD) says are from an area near Aden. They are of southern Arab origin and they migrated to Abyssinia and established a kingdom there. The Abyssinian language – called Ge’ez or the language of the Ge’ez – was named after them.”

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Original Areas of Semitic Languages

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Sabean Script

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Thamudi Script

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Sabean Script Next to Ge’ez Script

The Wikipedia says:

“The Sabaean (or Sabaic) language was an Old South Arabian language spoken in Yemen from c. 1000 BC to the 6th century AD, by the Sabaeans; it was used as a written language by some other peoples (sha`bs) of Ancient Yemen, including the Hashidites, Sirwahites, Humlanites, Ghaymanites, Himyarites, Radmanites etc.[1] It was written in the South Arabian alphabet.

The South Arabic alphabet used in Eritrea, Ethiopia and Yemen beginning in the 8th century BCE (all three locations) later evolved into the Ge’ez alphabet. Ge’ez language is no longer thought, as previously assumed, to be an offshoot of Sabaean or Old South Arabian,[2] and there is linguistic evidence of Semitic languages being spoken in Eritrea and Ethiopia since at least 2000 BC.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaean_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ge%27ez_language

Doctor Ja’afar Abdu Salih Al-Dhafari – Dean of the first university of Yemen says:

The Qudaa’a tribes set out – in their first emigration – from the hills of Habshat and Mount Habash and Mount Mahrat which form the highlands that were known as the hills of Habshat found in the land of Mahra. From there their clans spread to Mukha and Mouzi’ along the Red Sea. They set up their tents in that part of the southern Arabian Peninsula, but a part of them that settled in Tihama remained there for a while. Then they crossed the Red Sea – departing from Mouzi’ or a coastal town nearby – and they settle on the western bank of the Red Sea (“Africa”).”

The Axumite kings used to have the title:

“King of the Ge’ez Ramhaz Zubaiman, King of Saba and Dhu Raidan and Hadramout and Its Nomads in Najaad and Tihama”.

ملك الجعزيين رمحز زبيمان ملك سبأ وذو ريدان وحضرموت وأعرابها في النجاد وفي تهام
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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby AwRastaale » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:19 pm

No proof just theories which is nothing unique. Humanity today uses all kinds of theories to answer the origins of this and that. There are countless theories on Oromo and Somalis and the origins of the name Somali. The Habesha is no different.

Take for example some argue that Somali comes from the Somali word Soo maal meaning to go milk.

Then there is the Arab theories that it means wealth and so forth.

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:35 am

habashas captured arabia southern yemen and other areas under the axumites and dmt kingdoms. they stayed there for around 2 centuries and then just came back to their abissinia that's why people think they cake from arabia. habasha are more indegenous to the region then oromos.

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Samsee » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:31 am


https://wisethedome.wordpress.com/2012/ ... abyssinia/


read for yourself. there's historical proof to back up my claims, what proof do u have for urs?
genetics is the proof, habesha are only east africans who mixed with ancient middle eastern immigrants data shows they have high east african ancestry

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/ ... thiopians/
Ethiopians, in particular highland Ethiopians, seem to me likely an ancient stabilized hybrid population between a population from Arabia, and a local Sub-Saharan population.
they took the names of the arab they mixed with not too complicated

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Waachis » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:32 pm


https://wisethedome.wordpress.com/2012/ ... abyssinia/


read for yourself. there's historical proof to back up my claims, what proof do u have for urs?
genetics is the proof, habesha are only east africans who mixed with ancient middle eastern immigrants data shows they have high east african ancestry

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/ ... thiopians/
Ethiopians, in particular highland Ethiopians, seem to me likely an ancient stabilized hybrid population between a population from Arabia, and a local Sub-Saharan population.
they took the names of the arab they mixed with not too complicated
their ancestors, exactly, were arabs, who migrated to east africa, conquered/assimilated the local africans who were already there=then that created the habasha race.


''The Abyssinians were connect with the people of Arabia not only by their situation,-they were a people of the same family, and their kingdom perhaps originated from some of the plundering expeditions of the early tobbaas of Hamyar. Their Arabian origin is proved by the identity of their manners, their physiognomy, and their language, and even in some measures by their own traditions. Abyssinian resembled Arabia Felix also in its productions, its aromatic woods of myrrh and frankincense. Pure gold was found in many parts in abundance. In place of the camels of Arabia, it boasted of the finest elephants in the world.

Abyssinia is at present divided into three great divisions: that of Tigre, comprehending the tract between the red sea and the tekezze; that of Amhara, to the west of the tekezze; and the provinces of the south. The province now called Tigre was the seat of the ancient monarchy. At the north-west end of an extensive and fertile valley, between two hills, about 120 miles from the coast, stood the capital, the city of Auxuma, or Axum, the ruins of which still bear witness to its former magnificence. The annals of the Ethiopians trace its origin to the time of Abraham.''

[Early Christianity in Arabia
By Thomas Wright, Pages 40-43]

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Waachis » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:34 pm

habashas captured arabia southern yemen and other areas under the axumites and dmt kingdoms. they stayed there for around 2 centuries and then just came back to their abissinia that's why people think they cake from arabia. habasha are more indegenous to the region then oromos.
''The Abyssinians were connect with the people of Arabia not only by their situation,-they were a people of the same family, and their kingdom perhaps originated from some of the plundering expeditions of the early tobbaas of Hamyar. Their Arabian origin is proved by the identity of their manners, their physiognomy, and their language, and even in some measures by their own traditions. Abyssinian resembled Arabia Felix also in its productions, its aromatic woods of myrrh and frankincense. Pure gold was found in many parts in abundance. In place of the camels of Arabia, it boasted of the finest elephants in the world.

Abyssinia is at present divided into three great divisions: that of Tigre, comprehending the tract between the red sea and the tekezze; that of Amhara, to the west of the tekezze; and the provinces of the south. The province now called Tigre was the seat of the ancient monarchy. At the north-west end of an extensive and fertile valley, between two hills, about 120 miles from the coast, stood the capital, the city of Auxuma, or Axum, the ruins of which still bear witness to its former magnificence. The annals of the Ethiopians trace its origin to the time of Abraham.''

[Early Christianity in Arabia
By Thomas Wright, Pages 40-43]

how can they be more indigenous than one of the most ancient african races, the oromo?
the same people historians believe somalis and others are off-shoots of? LOL you're possibly my son, respect oromos ya ilma soomal!

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Re: Proof that the Habashas come from Arabia

Postby Jabuutawi » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:47 pm

Habasha meaning Amhara and Tigray? It is easy to quantify their origins by DNA testing. Their paternal haplogroups are various markers, J and A3b are some. Some were indigenous to Africa and others crossed from Yemen -- talk about confederation. Out of this potpourri came of what is considered Amhara and Tigray.


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