Waachis,
I know you are trolling because surely you're more intelligent than that. First of all you have not presented any evidence neither book, or any research work based on any historical facts.
All you managed to do is quote the diary entry of a Church preacher (clergyman) from New York. You running around as if he produced a holy script on the history of Oromo and Somalis. Sorry just a diary from his office in New York. The guy never even set foot in East Africa. Let alone find any other facts, prove today that Harvey Newcomb has been to east Africa.
There are no books or any historical research that claims Somalis are splitter group of Oromo. In fact the world knew Somalis longer and better than Oromo. The fact is until recently you were known as Galla and your name often mistaken with Orma people from Kenya.
What is the oldest record of "Oromo"? You have to prove that.
Just Oromo being larger doesn't make them parent. There is no evidence. The name Galla is even given to them by Somalis meaning the infidel (gaal).
How can the child name the parent?
If we look at the diary entry, we can see many things are wrong with it. He uses tribe, nations, Ethiopic and Abyssinia all in the same sentence. First of all Somali is not a tribe. It is an ethnic. Isaaq, Darod, Hawiye, Dir and Rahanwein are tribes.
There was no Somali state in 1840s thus there is no 'nations'.
Equally Oromo cannot be classified as 'Ethiopic'. Do the research on what "Ethiopic" means.
Finally not all Oromo were under Abyssinia.
When we take those things into consideration without further dissecting the diary entry, we can clearly see he is clueless:
''The next great branch of the Ethiopic race comprehends the Oromo, who occupy an immense tract in Eastern Africa, from Abyssinia as far as the inland Portuguese possessions in Mozambique, to the south of the equator. An interesting tribe of the Oromo are the Somalis, who have lately been brought to the knowledge of Europeans, a widely scattered nation, who lead a pastoral life on the uplands, and also nearer to the coast of the Indian Ocean from Cape Jerdaffur southward to a considerable distance.. They seem to be of a mild and peaceful disposition, while the other Oromo tribes are a warlike race.''
[A Cyclopedia of Missions: Containing a Comprehensive View of Missionary Operations Throughout the World, with Geographical Descriptions, and Accounts ... Moral, and Religious Condition of the People, 1803-1863, Harvey Newcomb]
Next time come up with better things to discuss. I'm not even going to waste my time finding diary entries.
Bigger population isn't parenthood neither are diary entries especially when the author never seen the concerned region.
Oromo and Somalis are related but no body knows who fathered who and who is older as siblings. It is not something relevant in today's world.
Somalis are their own race and did well in their own rights for their size (spreading across the most land amongst any ethnic in Africa).
Dear Hawdian, can you please then refute all of these men and their theories, please? thanks:
1. According to Bates (1979: 7), ''The Oromo were a very ancient race, the indigenous stock, perhaps, on which most of other peoples in this part of eastern Africa had been grafted.''
[Oromo Nationalism and the Ethiopian Discourse: The Search for Freedom and Democracy [Asafa Jalata] page 257]
2. ''Perhaps the old theory of Sir R. Burton is the most correct one: that they (Somalis) are of negro-Hamitic descent, and 'nothing but a slice of the great Galla nation Islam-ized and Semiticised by repeated immigrations from Arabia.' Such a theory is in the main in harmony with the Somali traditions of their Arabian descent, and geographical and historical conditions do not conflict with it; moreover, the physical type of the people agrees with it. The origin of the Galla is another question altogether. Whether they are part of the same race, which pushed into South Africa from the North and are now represented by the Kafir, or whether they are a half-caste Abyssinian race, need not here be discussed.
Somal, or Somali, is a name, that has only been in use to describe the dominant race in the Horn of Africa since the beginning of this century. Sir R. Burton (1856) says that the Somali call their country 'Bar-Al-Ajam.' The old maps name the country 'Asha' and 'Hawiya.' The derivation of the word Somali has puzzled people. Major Abud, whose authority must carry weight, leans to that, which has been suggested by the Language itself. He says: 'The Somali are a hospitable race, and, as milk is their staple food-supply, the first word a stranger would hear in visiting their kraals would be So-mal, i.e., go and bring milk. I have heard it suggested that the word for milk, liss, may account for the termination lis in Somalis.'
[Linguistic and Oriental Essays: 1840-1897
By Robert Needham Cust, pages 813-815]
3. Another interesting theory-''The Somali, a Hamitic race, descend from Arab immigrants into the area from the 7th century on, following the Arab conquests of Zeila and Harar. The name first appears in an Abyssinian song of the 15th century as ''Sumale.'' The main Muslim Arab invasion began during the 13th century, spreading over the Horn of Africa and absorbing the Galla inhabitants.''
[Constitutions of Nations: Volume I, Africa
edited by Amos Jenkins Peaslee, Dorothy Peaslee Xydis, page 722]
4.-''The Somalis are said to be descended from inhabitants of Arabia who absorbed or drove out the previous Galla inhabitants''...
[The Geographical Journal, Volume 78
[Royal Geographical Society, 1931 - Geography, page 101]
5.- ''The Somali are allied to the Gallas, and are clearly a Hamitic race; but to a limited extent the description of the Somali as a half-caste race of Gallas and South Arabians is correct, although the Hamitic is unquestionably the larger constituent element.''
[The living races of mankind : a popular illustrated account of the customs, habits, pursuits, feasts & ceremonies of the races of mankind throughout the world
by Johnston, Harry Hamilton, Sir, 1858-1927; Hutchinson, H. N. (Henry Neville), 1856-1927, pg 372]
