The fort of Walwal and the incident that set off a chain reaction leading up to world war 2

[Adali]

[Adali]

The reason why on the UN map of Somalia the boundary between Somalia and Ethiopia is dotted line is mainly because of this incident, it is still not accepted border by either nation, however the border between eithopia and somaliland is official, this is because the incident took place in walwal in the marehan territory stretching from Wardheer to north of Gelaadi in village called Qoloocan to back to dudub and rejoins Somalia at the mudug border. South of wardheer to shilaabo and regions at balanbale.

[AwRastaale]

You have no clue what you talking about.

The Walwal invasion by Italy has nothing to do with any border. This is when the Ogaden ugaas kissed the hand of Haile Selassie after Haile and his Abyssinians got the Ogaden nomads to fight on behave of Ethiopia.


His speech to his subjects after Italy was defeated and Britain handed back the Ogaden and Haud due to pressure from the Americans (who now wanted a military base in Eritrea to 'stop the Soviets').



The border is a complete different ball and you have no understanding of how borders were settled.

SL and Ethiopia's border were demarcated because the British and Menelik II agreed upon the borders during the Tana meeting where the British inked the borders.

The British sent Rennell Rodd the First Secretary of the British Agency in Cairo and met with Menelik in Lake Tana (Bahir Dar).

On the other hand Italy and Abyssinia never had such meetings and eventually Italy was removed during WW2. The British Military Administration did not settle the borders either instead hand south Somalia to the newly established United Nations (Trusteeship).

The border of SL-Abyssinia was settled 1897 while Walwal happened just 1935.



Walwal is also Ogaden village and has nothing to do with Marehan.

Despite Ogaden losing lots of lives, the Emperor awarded the Isaaq Sultan for battle and viewed as an important ally. You can see he is with the Abyssinians. Later on he would be part of a delegation with Michael Mariano to ask for Haud to be handed back to SL.

Here is the Isaaq Sultan that awarded; Suldan Abdillahi Suldan Deria (Habar Awal/Sacad Muse)



In London



Another clueless Wanlawein vomiting what he heard from his mum's kitchen. We more than happy to educate you kitchen gossip kids. Anything to do with Ethiopia, I'm all over it.

[AwRastaale]

If you have any doubts who the Sultan was, here he is in Hargeisa.



The question some of you may wish to rise maybe why did Britain agreed to hand over the largely Isaaq-inhabited Haud and Reserved Area to Ethiopia?

Well leading up to 1896-98, the French expressed their interest to connect their west African colonies, to those of Niger river, Nile and Djibouti. After the British discovered their plans, they requested two things from the Ethiopians; make save passage for the British and to halt the French from sailing any further down the Nile (to Sudan, which was their destination).

The Ethiopians made their requests such as recognising all their newly conquered lands and the Haud (which was never conquered by the them).

So they agreed on the conditions that SL nomads continued to have access to haud and their grassing lands. In 1898 the French began sailing down the Nile from Congo on their way to Sudan. The Ethiopians halted their advances before Britain made full reinforcement.

A French force of only 120 tirailleurs (Senegalese infantrymen) plus 12 French officers, non-commissioned officers and support staff — Captain Marcel Joseph Germain, Captain Albert Baratier, Captain Charles Mangin, Captain Victor Emmanuel Largeau, Lieutenant Félix Fouqué, teacher Dyé, doctor Jules Emily Major, Warrant Officer De Prat, Sergeant George Dat, Sergeant Bernard Sergeant Venail and the military interpreter Landerouin — set out from Brazzaville in a borrowed Belgian steamer, under Major Jean-Baptiste Marchand with orders to secure the area around Fashoda, and make it a French protectorate. They steamed up the Ubangi River to its head of navigation and then marched overland through jungle and scrub to the deserts of Sudan. They travelled across Sudan to the Nile River. They were to be met there by two expeditions coming from the east across Ethiopia, one of which, from Djibouti, was led by Christian de Bonchamps, veteran of the Stairs Expedition to Katanga.

Following a difficult 14-month trek across the heart of Africa, the Marchand Expedition arrived on 10 July 1898, but the de Bonchamps Expedition failed to make it after being ordered by the Ethiopians to halt, and then suffering accidents in the Baro Gorge. Marchand's small force was thus alone. On 18 September a flotilla of five British gunboats arrived at the isolated Fashoda fort. They carried 1,500 British and Egyptian/Sudanese soldiers, led by Sir Herbert Kitchener and including Lieutenant-Colonel (later General) Horace Smith-Dorrien. Marchand had received incorrect reports that the approaching force consisted of Dervishes but now found himself facing a diplomatic rather than a military crisis.

In the 1956 return of Haud and the Ogaden, Haile Selassie used the Americans against the British. The British really wanted the Somalis to form their own state(s) but the Americans wanted a military base in Eritrea, then under British Military Administration (BMA), and BMA had to hand Eritrea back to Ethiopia. The Americans convince Britain to return the rest just like Eritrea.

RIP to your mum's kitchen 'history'.

[Django]

Iidoor never fail to amaze us.
These folks want to change the narrative of history look at this pathetic gurage aw rastale concocting fake stories trying to potray as if the iidor had any significant contribution to the shaping of the somali history.He has mastered the art of photo shopping and editting and tries to put ogaden in the shoes of Idoor and vis versa.
Their similtude is that of Gurage claimming without them Menelik would have never conqured Ethiopia.

Iidoor and Gurage held the same postion. Whether iidoor rewrite history or not the reality is they were at the back bench of the reshaping and history of Somali lands and the peninsular.

Funny thing is they want to steal every posibble victory and claim its theirs wothout having any shame in plagiarisng history.

Adan Loow is Marexan and he was the reason that created the war between Ethiopia and Italy yet this febble minded Gurage is trying to claim otherwise by posting fictitious propaganda..

[AwRastaale]

Low IQ-Cagdheer (subject of Kikuyu),

I have slapped your fellow Dooro with hard facts and presented undeniable sources, so why not try and rebuttal if you have anything instead of crying like the Kikuyu owned slave you are?

I look forward to you even trying to present one document.

That's your home but I know it's hard for someone inside the four walls of Kikuyu master to learn anything.

This is just the warm up for me. I am well informed on these things and have my documents and sources just as I have presented them above while all you have is poor tears.

The Walwal incident erupted because Italy decided to take over the Walwal well for itself. It has nothing to do with your Dooro kitchen stories.




Another great slap to their wet dreams. Next they will tell us they built the Kikuyu wall that runs deep across their lands that divides mother, son, daughter and a father.

[Django]

Low IQ is someone like you using different nicks on snet.I dont use different nicks to impersonate oromos or Habeshas thst shows you have low self esteem.

Secondly using kikuyu card will not help you at all you have nothing more than cheap shots.

You have nothing credible but are a pathiological liar..

Dont compare Kenya to your triangle villages save your youth from unemployment and drowning in the high seas as well as being anused in Libya.
Posting pics of Hargeisa and bragging too much will not solve the level of poverty in the triangle.

[theyuusuf143]

The reason why on the UN map of Somalia the boundary between Somalia and Ethiopia is dotted line is mainly because of this incident, it is still not accepted border by either nation, however the border between eithopia and somaliland is official, this is because the incident took place in walwal in the marehan territory stretching from Wardheer to north of Gelaadi in village called Qoloocan to back to dudub and rejoins Somalia at the mudug border. South of wardheer to shilaabo and regions at balanbale.

If you know that the border between you and and Ethiopia is not official why don't you claim the other side of the border. The border between our two countries is legally demarcated but you don't accept, why ?

[Daneysteyaasha]

Fuck ethiopia

[Daneysteyaasha]

Lol at qaldaans bootyclapping for aidstopia even more than those who are officially apart of Aidstopia.

[original dervish]

It really disgusts me.

[Voltage]

The Walwal incident and the Ethiopian invasion of Italy had everything to do with Marehan and a Marehan man, Adan Loow, started it.

Adan Shire Jama aka "Adan Loow"; the man who shot the first shots in the Italo-Abbysinian war and organized the first free Somali elections in 1960. Adan Loow struck the first shot heard around East Africa and that brought the Italians and Abbysinians head on.This saw the eventual Italian takeover of the Ethiopian state and Haile Salassie escaping into exile. He later became one of the finest administrators in the trusteeship government, took the position of Interior Minister in the trusteeship colonial government, organized the first free Somali elections, and continued to be a high profile minister post-Somali independence in the 60's (Minister of Justice). They called him "Loow" because he was wounded in the knee during war.



His shots fired



His daughter recently wrote this autobiography of him

Wuxuu ku saabsan yahay dhacdo dhab ah (True story) dhacday 1934, galabtii magaalada Walwaal xabbadi ka qaraxday. Taas oo sabab u nqotay in Addis Ababa la qabsado, isla markaasna qaxootinimo markisay Boqor Xayle Salaase oo England magangelyo-doon ku imaanaya.

Dagaalkii 2aad oo qarxaya iyo nin Soomaali ah oo Buuro-leyda Xuduuddada Talyaaniga iyo Yugoslavia ka dhex jabhadaynaya, kadibna ku dhaawacmaya, Ninkaaasi waa Aaden Shire Jaamac.

Buuggu waa mid argagax, naxdin, caloolxumo iyo farax isla xambaarsan. Dhacdadu waxay raad qoddo dheer ku yeelanaysaa Soomaaliya, Geeska Afrika, Yurub iyo Qaramada Midoobay

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2013/jan/ ... cusub.aspx

[Canuck2]

The reason why on the UN map of Somalia the boundary between Somalia and Ethiopia is dotted line is mainly because of this incident, it is still not accepted border by either nation, however the border between eithopia and somaliland is official, this is because the incident took place in walwal in the marehan territory stretching from Wardheer to north of Gelaadi in village called Qoloocan to back to dudub and rejoins Somalia at the mudug border. South of wardheer to shilaabo and regions at balanbale.

If you know that the border between you and and Ethiopia is not official why don't you claim the other side of the border. The border between our two countries is legally demarcated but you don't accept, why ?

Somalia and Morocco are the only two countries in Africa that did not accept the borders of Africa as was settled by Europeans in Berlin.

[Adali]

The reason why on the UN map of Somalia the boundary between Somalia and Ethiopia is dotted line is mainly because of this incident, it is still not accepted border by either nation, however the border between eithopia and somaliland is official, this is because the incident took place in walwal in the marehan territory stretching from Wardheer to north of Gelaadi in village called Qoloocan to back to dudub and rejoins Somalia at the mudug border. South of wardheer to shilaabo and regions at balanbale.

If you know that the border between you and and Ethiopia is not official why don't you claim the other side of the border. The border between our two countries is legally demarcated but you don't accept, why ?

stick to the subject mate, not everything is centred around you, this holy border of yours is meaningless, even the british wanted to dissolve it long before SL and the south became unified.

Somalia or Somaliland same shit, we both just took the name given to us by the colonials, but while the later retained a whole english word the former only retained suffix which is ignitable offence to the former british subjects in the north apparently.

Anyway this topic is about a big war that claimed the lives of close to a million Xabasha.

[Voltage]

Adan Loow is Marexan and he was the reason that created the war between Ethiopia and Italy yet this febble minded Gurage is trying to claim otherwise by posting fictitious propaganda..

What the hell do the British and Michael Mariano and some Isaaq lackeys have to do with the Italo-Abbysinian war and the Walwaal incident? Waa yaab wallahi