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Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:31 pm
by Ben Dover
Siyaad Barre rotated the uses of Somali port every few years inorder to develop all the ports, Somalia had a small population but the largest coastline in Africa, for this reason, collaboration with foreign powers was used and abused to the max, Mogadishu, Kismaayo, Bosaso and Berbera were all build under the kacaan by using this strategy of limiting usage of one port, to force foreign allies to invest and build other ports so they can use them.

The jaahil is the gaal madow who thinks Siyaad Barre was dependent on Berbera

there is a reason why the soviet hated Siyaad Barre, he took elements from their ideology to suit his needs but never submitted to them, infact he used soviet to increase our power in Africa.
"built under the kacaan" :lol:

By whom? By imaginable boon marehan fairies? :lol:

Just see how blatant this boon marehan hunter-gatherer is with his lies. He is bragging that his aabe Afweyne begged foreign countries and received aid. No xishood, no karaamad.

Afweyne was a beggar. Everyone knew he was a beggar.

The fact of the matter is super powers of the day were interested in access to one port, namely Berbera. Just read the source above you boon marehan jaahil. To this day Berbera is the only relevant port in the region other than Djibouti.

Afweyne got military aid because of world interest in Berbera. He had nothing else of value to offer :) :up:

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:49 pm
by Adali
Siyaad Barre rotated the uses of Somali port every few years inorder to develop all the ports, Somalia had a small population but the largest coastline in Africa, for this reason, collaboration with foreign powers was used and abused to the max, Mogadishu, Kismaayo, Bosaso and Berbera were all build under the kacaan by using this strategy of limiting usage of one port, to force foreign allies to invest and build other ports so they can use them.

The jaahil is the gaal madow who thinks Siyaad Barre was dependent on Berbera

there is a reason why the soviet hated Siyaad Barre, he took elements from their ideology to suit his needs but never submitted to them, infact he used soviet to increase our power in Africa.
"built under the kacaan" :lol:

By whom? By imaginable boon marehan fairies? :lol:

Just see how blatant this boon marehan hunter-gatherer is with his lies. He is bragging that his aabe Afweyne begged foreign countries and received aid. No xishood, no karaamad.

Afweyne was a beggar. Everyone knew he was a beggar.

The fact of the matter is super powers of the day were interested in access to one port, namely Berbera. Just read the source above you boon marehan jaahil. To this day Berbera is the only relevant port in the region other than Djibouti.

Afweyne got military aid because of world interest in Berbera. He had nothing else of value to offer :) :up:
Are you refuting the fact that Berbera, Bosaso, Mogadishu, Kismaayo ports were all constructed, refurbished and maintained at highest standards in the 21 years of the Kacaan. Soviets invested and build Berbera, US invested and build Kismaayo, we worked with world super powers who opposed each other, and Incorporated them in the development of our country to further our interest regardless of their opposing idealogy, even when they were at brink of war.

Today Berbera is not being build by super powers, it is being sold to Ethiopia and UAE, the two enemies of the Somali people, you and I are not that different, if they hate me, they hate you, but you bend over for them whereas I am more strategic and collaborate with a more powerful nation in fair deals, aka Turkey/Qatar.

face the music bro, waa lagaa caqli badan yahay, anyways you are gaal madow from baadiyaha, get your masters then come talk to me.

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:02 pm
by Ben Dover
Are you refuting the fact that Berbera, Bosaso, Mogadishu, Kismaayo ports were all constructed, refurbished and maintained at highest standards in the 21 years of the Kacaan. Soviets invested and build Berbera, US invested and build Kismaayo, we worked with world super powers who opposed each other, and Incorporated them in the development of our country to further our interest regardless of their opposing idealogy, even when they were at brink of war.

Today Berbera is not being build by super powers, it is being sold to Ethiopia and UAE, the two enemies of the Somali people, you and I are not that different, if they hate me, they hate you, but you bend over for them whereas I am more strategic and collaborate with a more powerful nation in fair deals, aka Turkey/Qatar.

face the music bro, waa lagaa caqli badan yahay, anyways you are gaal madow from baadiyaha, get your masters then come talk to me.
Read the source on the previous page you illiterate boon marehan.

Donors, specifically world powers such as the US and the Soviet Union were interested in access to the strategic port of Berbera. Both of them saw military aid "as the price of Berbera".

The ports were built and developed by foreign countries, not because of Afweyne's big mouth, but due to the strategic nature of Berbera's port. Just like it is being built today.

Afweyne was a travelling beggar. That is all he did. He had nothing to offer the world. The fact that you are bragging about such pitiful state of existence tells a lot about you. Absolutely no karaamad or xishood. Your cousin started this thread actually bragging about military aid :lol:

Do you boon marehans have no shame?

You should be thankful to Duriyada's strategically located territory, instead of attempting to claim tax money built that army.

Berbera is being built today, you have nothing to be strategic about, you are boon marehan. Your entire region has a single high school and Keyna is abusing your people (women mostly, if videos are anything to go by :lol: ) on their land and building walls on your territory.

And here we have some f-king boon marehan attempting to claim tax money paid for the Somali Dem. Republic's military, or that Afweyne was a great beggar :lol:

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:33 pm
by Adali
aflagaada waa lagu yaqaan maangaabkan

Talk to me when you have world power and you make lucrative deals and good relations with them, instead of being taken advantage off by UAE and Ethiopia lol

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:24 pm
by Ben Dover
aflagaada waa lagu yaqaan maangaabkan

Talk to me when you have world power and you make lucrative deals and good relations with them, instead of being taken advantage off by UAE and Ethiopia lol
You illiterate boon marehan tried to brag about Afweyne being a beggar, illeyn weligaaba boon marehan bakhti cun bad ahayd, even your grandpa Xiraabu Goita Theodorous was complaining about his poverty-stricken state back in the day :lol:

Afweyne had nothing to offer the world, the only thing of value he had was the strategic port of Berbera. Which he offered to both the Soviet Union and the US in exchange for aid, military or otherwise.

f-king jaahil boon was claiming tax money built the military :lol:

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:40 pm
by AbdiCushite
aflagaada waa lagu yaqaan maangaabkan

Talk to me when you have world power and you make lucrative deals and good relations with them, instead of being taken advantage off by UAE and Ethiopia lol
Does anybody else see the irony in this boon bootyclapping for SFG which is controlled by Habashi and Bantu , and this boon is talking about "being taken advantage of" you crackheads can't even make lucrative deals anymore. The only lucrative deals you ever had was Berbera and we took it back and made the most lucrative deal the horn had seen in years.

UAE military base : $90 million

Turkey shithole in Mogadishu : $50 million

We also got a port upgrade for Berbera and got Ethiopia to buy into it, giving us access to a neighboring country with 100 million people and pledged future infrastructure projects , and you're retarded boon self is talking about lucrative deals and good relations 😂 SFG isn't in position to make any type of deals instead they bootyclap for different masters to come and exploit them. You guys are habashi and Bantu subjects , have some humility.

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:32 pm
by Adali
Lets debate like adults or I will just ignore your post. :lol:

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:43 pm
by Adali
Berbera port deal
Ethiopia is in talks to acquire shares in a joint venture involving DP World Ltd. that will manage a port in northern Somalia, a Somali official said, a move that could give the fast-growing yet landlocked Horn of Africa economy its first stake in foreign docks.

Somaliland, a semi-autonomous territory that aspires to statehood, has agreed “in principle” to give Ethiopia a 19 percent share in the venture administering Berbera port, according to Foreign Minister Saad Ali Shire. Somaliland’s government and Dubai-based DP World, which has a 30-year concession to manage and develop the facility, will be the majority shareholders in Somaliland-registered DPW Berbera, he said in an interview.


If Ethiopia takes its share, Somaliland will hold 30 percent of the company, while DP World will have 51 percent, according to Shire. Berbera sits on the Gulf of Aden, a waterway that leads to the Red Sea and Suez Canal, and is also where Somaliland says the United Arab Emirates is leasing a military airport that may be expanded into a naval facility.


Ethiopia, Africa’s second-most populous nation, is pitching itself as an export-oriented manufacturing hub, with the International Monetary Fund forecasting economic growth of 7.5 percent this year, the fastest pace on the continent after Ivory Coast. Ethiopia’s transport and information ministers and Foreign Ministry spokesman didn’t respond to phone calls and text messages seeking comment on the Berbera share offer.

Share Structure
Shire said the venture is presently 65 percent owned by DP World, with Somaliland holding the rest, and nothing legally binding has yet been agreed with Ethiopia. DP World, which operates 78 terminals in 40 countries, announced it would hold 65 percent in the venture in September. It won’t comment on the share structure “for the time being,” spokesman Michael Vertigans said by email.

Shire said the Berbera facility will have a container terminal and be mainly used for container traffic as a transit hub for landlocked nations, particularly Ethiopia. Currently more than 90 percent of Ethiopia’s trade passes through another Red Sea neighbor, Djibouti, according to that country’s ports authority.

A new $4.2-billion, Chinese-built railway between Ethiopia and Djibouti is set to cut cargo-journey times to 12 hours, from three days by road. DP World has a 50-year concession to operate a container terminal in Djibouti, which the government unsuccessfully sought the rescission of at a London arbitration court, Dubai said in February.

Industrial Policy
Ethiopia’s industrial policy strategy sees the railway line transporting 7.5 million metric tons of cargo per year by 2020, and says one of the nation’s “major accomplishments” was its purchase of cargo ships that have enhanced the capacity of its maritime transport services. Somaliland is planning a 260-kilometer (162-mile) road from Berbera port to the Ethiopian border, according to Shire.

“A shareholding doesn’t necessarily mean recognition of Somaliland as a state,” said Mogus Tekle Michael, deputy director of the Ethiopian Foreign Relations Strategic Studies Institute and a former Foreign Ministry spokesman. Ethiopia would be “more than willing to grab any opportunity” to play a role in developing any port in the region, including Berbera, he said.


The planned U.A.E. military base in the Berbera area will “add value on the security side” to the use of Berbera port, Shire said. The use of Berbera, Somaliland’s only major harbor, to import materials for the construction of the U.A.E. facility is “just common sense,” he said. The U.A.E. hasn’t publicly commented on any of the plans for a base detailed by Shire.

DP World isn’t involved “in any way” with the base, “which is a matter for both governments,” Vertigans said.
let me enlighten you this is actual begging, not the Kacaan who made a lucrative deal with little concession to the soviets.

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:21 pm
by Khalid Ali
Darod Is the same siyad barre general Adam gabyo xoosh kibray Darod have same culture they are United in isaaq hatret. I met all sort of darods they hate isaaq progress equally Somaliland progress equally even their qurjile wasakhgali. Wakab iyo xaarkeed. That dhulbajante faggot who said siyad bare my mother I midgaan. His mother was isaaq hy isxaaq. These people are filthy nasty people no nobility nothing. Xoosh kibray was insulting isaaq. His own wife was isaaq. Qudhun weye nijaas cancer. They brought south Africans bantus jareers . They made deal with mengistu just to defeat isaaq. Nasty qudhun weye daroodku cadaaabtanu kaga Daba tegeyna

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:29 pm
by Adali
Darod Is the same siyad barre general Adam gabyo xoosh kibray Darod have same culture they are United in isaaq hatret. I met all sort of darods they hate isaaq progress equally Somaliland progress equally even their qurjile wasakhgali. Wakab iyo xaarkeed. That dhulbajante faggot who said siyad bare my mother I midgaan. His mother was isaaq hy isxaaq. These people are filthy nasty people no nobility nothing. Xoosh kibray was insulting isaaq. His own wife was isaaq. Qudhun weye nijaas cancer. They brought south Africans bantus jareers . They made deal with mengistu just to defeat isaaq. Nasty qudhun weye daroodku cadaaabtanu kaga Daba tegeyna
Fake news, the only darood you have had historical beef with is the cagdheer, do not lump us all together with them, Mareexaan don't give a shit about Darood v Isaac niicniic, we are only interest in Qaranka ! Cagdheer waa kaas iska dhiciya yaa idin hor taagan, Siyaad Barre mother was cagdheer thats why he help his rer abti, but most Mareexaan have nothing to do with them, only the Cawlyahan are our allies the rest is non of our business.

As for the brave darawiish, we will support them inshallah, Harti waa dad gob ah oo wax lagu darsan karo. Marka hope you and Cagdheer finish each other off, you are both habasha slaves to me walle iyo bille. :lol:

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:32 pm
by Khalid Ali
Adali how old are you do you remember the civil war how old were you in 1988

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:43 pm
by bashe19
Adali how old are you do you remember the civil war how old were you in 1988

Somali are angelis, never been civil war you dump marqaan.


:dj:

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:46 pm
by Khalid Ali
Another darod piglet born after 1991

Re: At one point Somalia had the strongest military per capita in Africa and Middle East

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:22 pm
by AbdiCushite
Berbera port deal
Ethiopia is in talks to acquire shares in a joint venture involving DP World Ltd. that will manage a port in northern Somalia, a Somali official said, a move that could give the fast-growing yet landlocked Horn of Africa economy its first stake in foreign docks.

Somaliland, a semi-autonomous territory that aspires to statehood, has agreed “in principle” to give Ethiopia a 19 percent share in the venture administering Berbera port, according to Foreign Minister Saad Ali Shire. Somaliland’s government and Dubai-based DP World, which has a 30-year concession to manage and develop the facility, will be the majority shareholders in Somaliland-registered DPW Berbera, he said in an interview.


If Ethiopia takes its share, Somaliland will hold 30 percent of the company, while DP World will have 51 percent, according to Shire. Berbera sits on the Gulf of Aden, a waterway that leads to the Red Sea and Suez Canal, and is also where Somaliland says the United Arab Emirates is leasing a military airport that may be expanded into a naval facility.


Ethiopia, Africa’s second-most populous nation, is pitching itself as an export-oriented manufacturing hub, with the International Monetary Fund forecasting economic growth of 7.5 percent this year, the fastest pace on the continent after Ivory Coast. Ethiopia’s transport and information ministers and Foreign Ministry spokesman didn’t respond to phone calls and text messages seeking comment on the Berbera share offer.

Share Structure
Shire said the venture is presently 65 percent owned by DP World, with Somaliland holding the rest, and nothing legally binding has yet been agreed with Ethiopia. DP World, which operates 78 terminals in 40 countries, announced it would hold 65 percent in the venture in September. It won’t comment on the share structure “for the time being,” spokesman Michael Vertigans said by email.

Shire said the Berbera facility will have a container terminal and be mainly used for container traffic as a transit hub for landlocked nations, particularly Ethiopia. Currently more than 90 percent of Ethiopia’s trade passes through another Red Sea neighbor, Djibouti, according to that country’s ports authority.

A new $4.2-billion, Chinese-built railway between Ethiopia and Djibouti is set to cut cargo-journey times to 12 hours, from three days by road. DP World has a 50-year concession to operate a container terminal in Djibouti, which the government unsuccessfully sought the rescission of at a London arbitration court, Dubai said in February.

Industrial Policy
Ethiopia’s industrial policy strategy sees the railway line transporting 7.5 million metric tons of cargo per year by 2020, and says one of the nation’s “major accomplishments” was its purchase of cargo ships that have enhanced the capacity of its maritime transport services. Somaliland is planning a 260-kilometer (162-mile) road from Berbera port to the Ethiopian border, according to Shire.

“A shareholding doesn’t necessarily mean recognition of Somaliland as a state,” said Mogus Tekle Michael, deputy director of the Ethiopian Foreign Relations Strategic Studies Institute and a former Foreign Ministry spokesman. Ethiopia would be “more than willing to grab any opportunity” to play a role in developing any port in the region, including Berbera, he said.


The planned U.A.E. military base in the Berbera area will “add value on the security side” to the use of Berbera port, Shire said. The use of Berbera, Somaliland’s only major harbor, to import materials for the construction of the U.A.E. facility is “just common sense,” he said. The U.A.E. hasn’t publicly commented on any of the plans for a base detailed by Shire.

DP World isn’t involved “in any way” with the base, “which is a matter for both governments,” Vertigans said.
let me enlighten you this is actual begging, not the Kacaan who made a lucrative deal with little concession to the soviets.
How is that begging you retard? We have something strategic to offer, Zoomalia doesn't. We don't beg for anything we make deals. DP world shafted Djibouti for a 50 year deal where DP world gets almost all ownership. We got a good deal end of the day, I'll explain it to your retarded boon ass :

1. We own 30% of the port for now , but in just 30 years it will shoot up to 81%. Regardless 30% is still more than what djibouti got , and more than anything Zoomalia ever got. You guys gave Berbera to the Soviets and they didn't invest $1 into Berbera city. You talking to me about bad deals? They gave you guns in exchange for Berbera, and you guys thought that was a good deal LOL

2. The Berbera Port deal gives us access to ethiopia with population of 100 million people. This is more than just about the port because now we will have highway and possible railway linking Berbera to Ethiopia. Faster travel means more money. More livestock and other goods we can export to ethiopia.

3. The military base UAE building which costs $90 million and will be better than the $50 million one built by Turkey in Mogadishu. We will have a naval Military base in one of the most strategic parts of the world.


Meanwhile you guys bootyclap for America , EU, Ethiopia , Kenya, Uganda , Burundi, UAE, Qatar, and Turkey all at the same time , but we're the beggars 😂