A look back at how the kind Oromos welcomed the Somalis to the Juba River

[St8OuttaDirree]

If I want to talk about Japan I will do it and there is nothing cagdheer can say about that, got it ?

These Arsi, Silte people are originally Somali from the middle ages around 6-700 years ago, they were part of the numerous Somali kingdoms that expanded along the coastline and the interior, which later formed the adal empire and fought against Abyssinia.

Diredaba, Raaso, Babilli etc is recent times when certain Somali clans like Dir joining Oromo etc it is different subject all together.

I am talking to the brother about historical facts, not current day politics, I say these Arsi Silte people should protect their interest against Oromo and Habasha, nothing wrong with that.

They are Somali Abo people we welcomed them in Mogadishu during Kacaan years for education, funds etc.

Brother, again the Silte and Arsi have nothing to do with Somali. The Silte don’t even border Somalis, they live in the Southern people’s region with other Gurages, Siddamas and omotic people. The Silte language is a Semitic language closely related to Harari, not At-Soomali. They are genetically and culturally related to Adares, Gurages, Argobbas ect.

Arsi is are Oromo. The Original Oromos are still amongst them, but they also have a large amount of assimilated ethnic Hadiya people.

The below video is what the Hadiya are. They are a Cushitic group, but a lot closer to Sidamas, Kambatas etc compared to Somali.

These are the people that ruled the kingdom of Bali and the Hadiya kingdom, Not Somalis.

14th century ruthless habasha imperialism can change even the strongest of people

the word somali to describe somalis came before this, prior to being referred to as Somalis, we were called Hawiya, Hadiya, Hasiya

Watch the clip, do these people look like you?

[Adali]

Brother, again the Silte and Arsi have nothing to do with Somali. The Silte don’t even border Somalis, they live in the Southern people’s region with other Gurages, Siddamas and omotic people. The Silte language is a Semitic language closely related to Harari, not At-Soomali. They are genetically and culturally related to Adares, Gurages, Argobbas ect.

Arsi is are Oromo. The Original Oromos are still amongst them, but they also have a large amount of assimilated ethnic Hadiya people.

The below video is what the Hadiya are. They are a Cushitic group, but a lot closer to Sidamas, Kambatas etc compared to Somali.

These are the people that ruled the kingdom of Bali and the Hadiya kingdom, Not Somalis.

14th century ruthless habasha imperialism can change even the strongest of people

the word somali to describe somalis came before this, prior to being referred to as Somalis, we were called Hawiya, Hadiya, Hasiya

Watch the clip, do these people look like you?

I didn't watch the clip bro

Im not undermining their unique culture, but 700 years damn that is a long time to endure habasha

[TeeriReturns]

Do you even know anything about the people or lands that you are talking about?

Firstly, the Gurgura and Ogaden do not even or ever had an extensive border. They border the Afar, Ciise and Oromo. Dire Dawa and its surroundings is their stronghold and they never joined the Oromo.



As for the Akisho/Gurre, the majority live in Southern K5 and posses their own districts. Only a few live next to the Ogaden in Fiq and Qabribayax. Contrary to what you keep claim, they mainly live in Southern K5, not Shnille or Nothern K5. Nor do the Garire, Daweed and Faqi Maxamed in Ceel Kari, Western Jaratti and Dolo Bay Woredas. None of them voted join the Oromo Regional State as demonstrated by their districts in Southern K5. Only the Karanle Hawiyes and the Jarso Oromo-Somali confederation did.



The only ones that have been Oromised are a subclan which is part of the Oborra Afran Qallo subclan and live deep in the Oromo Haraghe. Zone. Furthermore, only a minority of them live next to you guys in Fiq and QabriBayax. Don't lie about things you are ignorant of.

Also, Cabdi Iley never made Dire Dawa a Federal Zone, the Tigrays did after the IGLF fought the Oromos in the early 90's and gained control of the city.

get out of here dude, akisho live in shanile, do not deny it, you keep saying the south of K5 with ourt being specific, bringing a map dont prove shyte, the most southern regions waa afdheer, 100% cawlyahan and reer amadin ogadens, libaan waa 100% dagodi and garre,, all those races you mentioned do live in shaniley, jaaro, akisho do resdie in k5, if you want to deny it then you must have an agenda,

i nerr said cabdi iley made a federal zone, i said it was his policy advise toe thiopia it be spelit in the middle and dira dawa is half dir half oromo,

i could not careless if they want to be somali other another race as long as they dont go near OGaden lands, they can fight over who is what, just keep away from OGs lands, it was their choice to assimilate, all i know is they hate me and only the gun keeps me safe, like it has been for centuries with the sword,

i dont buy your cushtic brotherly love crap like adali, , these people just raped and murdered somalis dirs and karanley months ago, waa hutu mentality,

Kid, I have no patience for verbal diarrhea.

The Akisho/Gurre do not live in Shinille/Sitti Zone. Nor do the Jaarso. The Jaarso mainly live in East Haraghe Zone except the ones in Faafan. I also provided a map of where the Gurre live in Southern K5; Gorobakaks, Gura-damol and Qarsadula. These are strictly Gurre districts that were part of Afder Zone but added to Liben Zone in the last two years. Moreover, the districts of Ceel Kare and Dolo Bay belong to the Garire and Surre subclans, not OG. Even Jarrati is split between Daweed Gaadsan on the West Bank of the River and Reer Afgab on the East Side of the River.

Drop the Kool Aid and Delusional Grandeur kid, and come back to me when you have been schooled on the geography and demographics of K5.

By the way, apart from the Khat traders, no Dirs were specifically targeted by the Oromos in the borderlands that they inhabit in Southern or Northern K5. The Somalis that were killed deep inside Oromo Western Hararghe were from a variety of Somali clans, including Ogaden, just remember that next time you boast about Oromos massacring non-Ogaden Somalis. If you do not believe me, ask your fellow Ogadens Django and Zidane.

Qaybta 4aad – Taariikhda ay deegaankaas tageen & Qabaa’ilka ay ka kooban yihiin
Soomaalidan oo taariikh ahaan dhulkan yimid hal qarni iyo badh ka hor ayaa ka kooban qabaa’il kala duwan oo Soomaaliyeed, oo isku xidhiidhiya magaca soomaalinimada (Waa meesha kali ah ee ay Soomaalinimadu hal qabiil ka tahay, iyo far kali ah dhinaca midnimada).

Balse waxaa loo qaybiyaa labo qaybood oo waaweyn oo kala ah beesha Camarka oo ah jilib Ogaadeen ah oo asalkoodu ka soo guuray degmada Fiiq & nawaaxigeeda, islamarkaana ka mid ah beel-weynta maalinguur iyo qaybta kale oo loogu yeedho Shiinaha oo isugu jira qabaa’il kala duwan oo ay ka mid yihiin Abaskuul, Hawiye isku jir ah, Ciise, Maxed Subeer, Ree Sacad, Abraahiim – Makaahiil, Bartire, Gurre, Sheekhaash, Harti, Mareexaan, Ajuuraan, Biyo-maal & qabiilo kale.
Qaybta 5aad – Shaqsiyaadka Caanka ah ee ka soo jeeda deegaankaas
Dadka caanka ah ee aaggan ka soo jeeda waxaa ka mid ah Sh/Cali Suufi Sh/C/raxmaan oo muddo dheer barista diinta ka waday meelo ay ka mid yihiin Fiiq, Dh/buur oo uu madarasooyin taariikh leh ka yagleelay, iyo Magaalada Muqdisho oo uu . Sheekhu wuxuu aabbo u yahay rag culimo ah oo uu ugu horreeyo Sh/C/rashiid Sh/Cali Suufi oo ah sheekha dawlada Qatar, culimada Soomaalida ugu magaca dheerna ka mid ah. Sida oo kale Dr. Suldaan Weli oo ahaan jiray Madaxweyne kuxigeenka deegaanka Soomaalida, iyo kuwo kale oo deegaanka xilal ka haya oo ay ka mid yihiin Miig Bile oo ah wisiirka dhallinyada & sports-ka & Dr. C/casiis Ibrahim oo ah Madaxweynaha Jaamacada Jigjiga iyo horin kale oo deegaanka xilal & shaqooyin muhiim ah ka haysa ayaa laga xusi karaa dadka dhulkaas ka soo jeeda, ee ku dhex bar-baaray deegaankaas.

Si kastaba ha ahaatee, Soomaalidan ayaa ah kuwo is jecel oo isku xidhiidhiya Soomaalinamada, taas oo ka dhigaysa in dhulkaasi uu yahay meesha kali ah ee ay Soomaali degto ee ay Soomaalinimadu hal qabiil ka tahay.

http://ogaden24.net/2018/01/10/maqaal-w ... ka-oromia/

oh be quite, claiming all the land you want doesnt mean shyt, so claim all you want, i claim i am the king of thailand, dont mean shit, all these corner tribes waa ocrner tribes,

and what makes you thing absame resding from the borders of djabouti all the way to kenya is a tigre gift? how did your langaab brain work that out? dont be jelous nigger, i was fighting the British in kenya before oromo assimilate yall, envious langaabs.

a

yeah and let Ethiopia break apart, you will go back to being owned.

[zumaale]

get out of here dude, akisho live in shanile, do not deny it, you keep saying the south of K5 with ourt being specific, bringing a map dont prove shyte, the most southern regions waa afdheer, 100% cawlyahan and reer amadin ogadens, libaan waa 100% dagodi and garre,, all those races you mentioned do live in shaniley, jaaro, akisho do resdie in k5, if you want to deny it then you must have an agenda,

i nerr said cabdi iley made a federal zone, i said it was his policy advise toe thiopia it be spelit in the middle and dira dawa is half dir half oromo,

i could not careless if they want to be somali other another race as long as they dont go near OGaden lands, they can fight over who is what, just keep away from OGs lands, it was their choice to assimilate, all i know is they hate me and only the gun keeps me safe, like it has been for centuries with the sword,

i dont buy your cushtic brotherly love crap like adali, , these people just raped and murdered somalis dirs and karanley months ago, waa hutu mentality,

Kid, I have no patience for verbal diarrhea.

The Akisho/Gurre do not live in Shinille/Sitti Zone. Nor do the Jaarso. The Jaarso mainly live in East Haraghe Zone except the ones in Faafan. I also provided a map of where the Gurre live in Southern K5; Gorobakaks, Gura-damol and Qarsadula. These are strictly Gurre districts that were part of Afder Zone but added to Liben Zone in the last two years. Moreover, the districts of Ceel Kare and Dolo Bay belong to the Garire and Surre subclans, not OG. Even Jarrati is split between Daweed Gaadsan on the West Bank of the River and Reer Afgab on the East Side of the River.

Drop the Kool Aid and Delusional Grandeur kid, and come back to me when you have been schooled on the geography and demographics of K5.

By the way, apart from the Khat traders, no Dirs were specifically targeted by the Oromos in the borderlands that they inhabit in Southern or Northern K5. The Somalis that were killed deep inside Oromo Western Hararghe were from a variety of Somali clans, including Ogaden, just remember that next time you boast about Oromos massacring non-Ogaden Somalis. If you do not believe me, ask your fellow Ogadens Django and Zidane.

Qaybta 4aad – Taariikhda ay deegaankaas tageen & Qabaa’ilka ay ka kooban yihiin
Soomaalidan oo taariikh ahaan dhulkan yimid hal qarni iyo badh ka hor ayaa ka kooban qabaa’il kala duwan oo Soomaaliyeed, oo isku xidhiidhiya magaca soomaalinimada (Waa meesha kali ah ee ay Soomaalinimadu hal qabiil ka tahay, iyo far kali ah dhinaca midnimada).

Balse waxaa loo qaybiyaa labo qaybood oo waaweyn oo kala ah beesha Camarka oo ah jilib Ogaadeen ah oo asalkoodu ka soo guuray degmada Fiiq & nawaaxigeeda, islamarkaana ka mid ah beel-weynta maalinguur iyo qaybta kale oo loogu yeedho Shiinaha oo isugu jira qabaa’il kala duwan oo ay ka mid yihiin Abaskuul, Hawiye isku jir ah, Ciise, Maxed Subeer, Ree Sacad, Abraahiim – Makaahiil, Bartire, Gurre, Sheekhaash, Harti, Mareexaan, Ajuuraan, Biyo-maal & qabiilo kale.
Qaybta 5aad – Shaqsiyaadka Caanka ah ee ka soo jeeda deegaankaas
Dadka caanka ah ee aaggan ka soo jeeda waxaa ka mid ah Sh/Cali Suufi Sh/C/raxmaan oo muddo dheer barista diinta ka waday meelo ay ka mid yihiin Fiiq, Dh/buur oo uu madarasooyin taariikh leh ka yagleelay, iyo Magaalada Muqdisho oo uu . Sheekhu wuxuu aabbo u yahay rag culimo ah oo uu ugu horreeyo Sh/C/rashiid Sh/Cali Suufi oo ah sheekha dawlada Qatar, culimada Soomaalida ugu magaca dheerna ka mid ah. Sida oo kale Dr. Suldaan Weli oo ahaan jiray Madaxweyne kuxigeenka deegaanka Soomaalida, iyo kuwo kale oo deegaanka xilal ka haya oo ay ka mid yihiin Miig Bile oo ah wisiirka dhallinyada & sports-ka & Dr. C/casiis Ibrahim oo ah Madaxweynaha Jaamacada Jigjiga iyo horin kale oo deegaanka xilal & shaqooyin muhiim ah ka haysa ayaa laga xusi karaa dadka dhulkaas ka soo jeeda, ee ku dhex bar-baaray deegaankaas.

Si kastaba ha ahaatee, Soomaalidan ayaa ah kuwo is jecel oo isku xidhiidhiya Soomaalinamada, taas oo ka dhigaysa in dhulkaasi uu yahay meesha kali ah ee ay Soomaali degto ee ay Soomaalinimadu hal qabiil ka tahay.

http://ogaden24.net/2018/01/10/maqaal-w ... ka-oromia/

oh be quite, claiming all the land you want doesnt mean shyt, so claim all you want, i claim i am the king of thailand, dont mean shit, all these corner tribes waa ocrner tribes,

and what makes you thing absame resding from the borders of djabouti all the way to kenya is a tigre gift? how did your langaab brain work that out? dont be jelous nigger, i was fighting the British in kenya before oromo assimilate yall, envious langaabs.

a

yeah and let Ethiopia break apart, you will go back to being owned.

You are a comedian sxb, ii bashal.

[St8OuttaDirree]

TeeriReturns,

What makes you think the absame clans were not spared from assimilation? Why hate on the brother..

The whole subclan of Noole Warra Mahammad are actually Yabarre Jidwaaq. There are many absame clans amongst us. Oromos won’t deny we’ve assimilated.

Do you know who you really are? Are you sure your not Warday/Orma Oromo? Don’t hate man. People change, cultures shift. Everyone has been assimilated here and there.

Mic drop..

[zumaale]

TeeriReturns,

What makes you think the absame clans were not spared from assimilation? Why hate on the brother..

The whole subclan of Noole Warra Mahammad are actually Yabarre Jidwaaq. There are many absame clans amongst us. Oromos won’t deny we’ve assimilated.

Do you know who you really are? Are you sure your not Warday/Orma Oromo? Don’t hate man. People change, cultures shift. Everyone has been assimilated here and there.

Mic drop..

Are you one of our assimilated brothers? Warya, what is your Noole subclan? I suspect the Somalinet Qallu Bareento to be an assimilated Sheekhaal?

[St8OuttaDirree]

TeeriReturns,

What makes you think the absame clans were not spared from assimilation? Why hate on the brother..

The whole subclan of Noole Warra Mahammad are actually Yabarre Jidwaaq. There are many absame clans amongst us. Oromos won’t deny we’ve assimilated.

Do you know who you really are? Are you sure your not Warday/Orma Oromo? Don’t hate man. People change, cultures shift. Everyone has been assimilated here and there.

Mic drop..

Are you one of our assimilated brothers? Warya, what is your Noole subclan? I suspect the Somalinet Qallu Bareento to be an assimilated Sheekhaal?

I’m Noole Mana Abu, same clan the warra Mahammad fall under. Not going further into detail as to my clan.

Bareento is also Noole.

[zumaale]

TeeriReturns,

What makes you think the absame clans were not spared from assimilation? Why hate on the brother..

The whole subclan of Noole Warra Mahammad are actually Yabarre Jidwaaq. There are many absame clans amongst us. Oromos won’t deny we’ve assimilated.

Do you know who you really are? Are you sure your not Warday/Orma Oromo? Don’t hate man. People change, cultures shift. Everyone has been assimilated here and there.

Mic drop..

Are you one of our assimilated brothers? Warya, what is your Noole subclan? I suspect the Somalinet Qallu Bareento to be an assimilated Sheekhaal?

I’m Noole Mana Abu, same clan the warra Mahammad fall under. Not going further into detail as to my clan.

Bareento is also Noole.

No worries, thanks.

What about the Warra Usman and Warra Umar, what are they; Somali too?

[Jabuutawi]

Cuz, did he say what I just read? Walee khiiyaali ba lagu nool yahay. Madaama hadaa la sheegtay borders of Djibouti to Kenya, . Here is an entertainment.
ii bashaal, indeed,

[Waachis]

^ yo, no sane Somali wants to be part of Oromia but we wish you well, just don't come for my Dira Dhabe or any other Somali land.

So, top generals were Macca, that is Wacchis people. I knew that boy was a sell out. I respect the Afran Qallu and Arsi warriors.

Video: Women are pretty.

@Khadra Ali, bitch ass nigga, you coping out already

Issa, ur clan, has been stealing land from our afar brothers, and I've always been vocally against that, so that's why yo Punk ass mad. If afar were stealing issa land, I'd support the issa. It's all about justice and what's right. Sorry if your simple mind cannot comprehend that.
What does me being maccaa have to do with the past actions of some Oromos, u retarded idiot...
Keep in mind that there was not an United oromo country ever, there were separate autonomous, decentralized clans, who all had their own chiefs.
Oromo hated the idea of a centralized government with so much power being concentrated In the hands of one or a few men.
Some maccaa did take part in the expansion of the Ethiopian empire, some didn't and lived normal lives. Maccaa is one of the biggest oromo clans, today it's about 12 million or so, living on rich land full of gold, cattle, etc, they live from naqamte, who's resisting tplf right now, to wallaga, to ilubabor, to jimma, etc.

[zumaale]

Cuz, did he say what I just read? Walee khiiyaali ba lagu nool yahay. Madaama hadaa la sheegtay borders of Djibouti to Kenya, . Here is an entertainment.
ii bashaal, indeed,

Nigga was trolling, there is no other logical explanation for what he wrote. He can't be that dumb.

[Adali]

^ yo, no sane Somali wants to be part of Oromia but we wish you well, just don't come for my Dira Dhabe or any other Somali land.

So, top generals were Macca, that is Wacchis people. I knew that boy was a sell out. I respect the Afran Qallu and Arsi warriors.

Video: Women are pretty.

@Khadra Ali, bitch ass nigga, you coping out already

Issa, ur clan, has been stealing land from our afar brothers, and I've always been vocally against that, so that's why yo Punk ass mad. If afar were stealing issa land, I'd support the issa. It's all about justice and what's right. Sorry if your simple mind cannot comprehend that.
What does me being maccaa have to do with the past actions of some Oromos, u retarded idiot...
Keep in mind that there was not an United oromo country ever, there were separate autonomous, decentralized clans, who all had their own chiefs.
Oromo hated the idea of a centralized government with so much power being concentrated In the hands of one or a few men.
Some maccaa did take part in the expansion of the Ethiopian empire, some didn't and lived normal lives. Maccaa is one of the biggest oromo clans, today it's about 12 million or so, living on rich land full of gold, cattle, etc, they live from naqamte, who's resisting tplf right now, to wallaga, to ilubabor, to jimma, etc.

Which Habasha emperor gave you this land and riches ? and what was the ultimate price ? killing million of muslims, ransacking muslim kingdoms and raping the women ?

oromoda ileen waa cawaan

[Waachis]

^ yo, no sane Somali wants to be part of Oromia but we wish you well, just don't come for my Dira Dhabe or any other Somali land.

So, top generals were Macca, that is Wacchis people. I knew that boy was a sell out. I respect the Afran Qallu and Arsi warriors.

Video: Women are pretty.

@Khadra Ali, bitch ass nigga, you coping out already

Issa, ur clan, has been stealing land from our afar brothers, and I've always been vocally against that, so that's why yo Punk ass mad. If afar were stealing issa land, I'd support the issa. It's all about justice and what's right. Sorry if your simple mind cannot comprehend that.
What does me being maccaa have to do with the past actions of some Oromos, u retarded idiot...
Keep in mind that there was not an United oromo country ever, there were separate autonomous, decentralized clans, who all had their own chiefs.
Oromo hated the idea of a centralized government with so much power being concentrated In the hands of one or a few men.
Some maccaa did take part in the expansion of the Ethiopian empire, some didn't and lived normal lives. Maccaa is one of the biggest oromo clans, today it's about 12 million or so, living on rich land full of gold, cattle, etc, they live from naqamte, who's resisting tplf right now, to wallaga, to ilubabor, to jimma, etc.

Which Habasha emperor gave you this land and riches ? and what was the ultimate price ? killing million of muslims, ransacking muslim kingdoms and raping the women ?

oromoda ileen waa cawaan

No u idiot our land produces those things.
Those are resources we've had before Ethiopia existed.
We didn't have guns and the European gave Menelik 100,000 rifles. Did u expect us to win. No-one could have no matter how brave u are. We had no choice but to submit and pay a yearly tribute.

https://books.google.com/books?id=_XwN2 ... mo&f=false




Read about my clan there, if u want.

[Adali]

Issa, ur clan, has been stealing land from our afar brothers, and I've always been vocally against that, so that's why yo Punk ass mad. If afar were stealing issa land, I'd support the issa. It's all about justice and what's right. Sorry if your simple mind cannot comprehend that.
What does me being maccaa have to do with the past actions of some Oromos, u retarded idiot...
Keep in mind that there was not an United oromo country ever, there were separate autonomous, decentralized clans, who all had their own chiefs.
Oromo hated the idea of a centralized government with so much power being concentrated In the hands of one or a few men.
Some maccaa did take part in the expansion of the Ethiopian empire, some didn't and lived normal lives. Maccaa is one of the biggest oromo clans, today it's about 12 million or so, living on rich land full of gold, cattle, etc, they live from naqamte, who's resisting tplf right now, to wallaga, to ilubabor, to jimma, etc.

Which Habasha emperor gave you this land and riches ? and what was the ultimate price ? killing million of muslims, ransacking muslim kingdoms and raping the women ?

oromoda ileen waa cawaan

No u idiot our land produces those things.
Those are resources we've had before Ethiopia existed.
We didn't have guns and the European gave Menelik 100,000 rifles. Did u expect us to win. No-one could have no matter how brave u are. We had no choice but to submit and pay a yearly tribute.

https://books.google.com/books?id=_XwN2 ... mo&f=false




Read about my clan there, if u want.

Yes I will read inshallah

for me personally it is better to die standing up than to live on your knees and become a hunting dog for your enemy. Death is a much sweeter and quick option, perhaps I will take some of the enemies with me, perhaps its better and fair to me and my descendants than generations of servitude killing others for a slave master.

[Waachis]

https://books.google.com/books?id=0TtmA ... mo&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=0PQ3A ... mo&f=false


And it's easy to say that when that isn't your reality.
Remember early Islamic history, when muslims in Medina were persecuted and couldn't fight back?
The oromo were In a similar situation. Even Somalis were blocked from getting firearms despite having sea access.
Half of my family is from arsi a region that resisted Menelik for 6 to 7 years.
Other half, my dads half, is sadacha, a subclan of the maccaa. Most macca submitted peacefully and were given autonomy in some places. Some became Christian and Intermarried with the Abyssinian elites from shoa. Some remained Muslim like my family in Jimma. It's a complicated history, not one sided at all. Oromos have different experiences with the Ethiopian state, so that's Why u see different opinions and outlooks.