Who deleted Waachis Ram Naga thing?

[AwRastaale]

I think the Faqash and Dir ancestral shoppers didn’t like my reply where I destroyed them including an article from Nat Geo:

SIBLINGS CAN HAVE SURPRISINGLY DIFFERENT DNA ANCESTRY. HERE'S WHY.


When it comes to tracing your roots through your genes, biological siblings may have less in common than many people expect.

That article destroys the long held views by the likes of Zumaale and his Wikipedia “DNA” ancestral shopping bid.

First of all apart from Europeans and Anglo-Saxons, there are no good amount samples from other races to compare.

Secondly he ran around that few Garhajis had “different DNA” to view “Habar Awal”

That bogus Wikipedia is now put to rest.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/pe ... s-why.aspx

In future just post that link no need to participate in 200 pages of none sense from Wiki.


Wa billahi towfiiq

[Khalid Ali]

Drake brook man destroyed marehan because he points out ilma goita were boni hunters. And the dir ancestry shoppers are now looking for New archelogical research in upper Egypt latest study is they are a mix of a Hindi cali beysteyn Krishna and some ancient fircoon fellow

[zumaale]

AwRastaale

You are so dumb that you do not realise that whoever deleted the thread did you a favour. I had written a nice Karbash post.

Here comes a Karbash.

Firstly, do you have comprehension issues? This article is not highlighting any new, it only states that siblings can naturally have different DNA compositions because they do not necessarily inherit the same set of genes. For instance, you could have light skinned and dark skinned siblings in a Somali family or straight haired and curly haired siblings as a result of specific genes that they separately inherit from their parents. Read the DNA Shuffle part you Moron!

DNA SHUFFLE
The family mismatch (usually) isn’t due to skeletons in the closet and is instead because of slight variations in egg and sperm DNA.

When the body creates sperm or eggs, the cells engage in some reshuffling known as genetic recombination. This process cuts the number of chromosomes that normal cells have in half—from 46 to 23—so that when a sperm and egg combine during fertilisation, they form a complete genetic package.

To do this genetic trimming, the chromosomes in cells line up in pairs and exchange bits of genetic material before forming an egg or sperm cell. Each mature egg and sperm then has its own specific combination of genes—which means offspring will inherit a slightly different set of DNA from each parent.

“It’s just a matter of biology,” says Megan Dennis, who studies human genetics at the University of California, Davis.

Most commercial genetic ancestry tests work by pulling out and analysing selected chunks of DNA. Then they compare the results to the same DNA chunks from databases of people with confirmed roots in particular countries or continents and tell you where in the world people alive today have genes that most closely match your own. (Recently, genealogists created a 13-million-person family tree that yielded some surprising results.)

Because of recombination, siblings only share about 50 percent of the same DNA, on average, Dennis says. So while biological siblings have the same family tree, their genetic code might be different in at least one of the areas looked at in a given test. That’s true even for fraternal twins.

The more diverse your recent ancestors are, Dennis says, the more pronounced the effects of genetic recombination can be.

“If your maternal grandparents are biracial, for example, your mother will have a random mix of those ethnicities,” she says. That leaves a more diverse set of genetic possibilities for her to pass down. “And you’d see a bigger effect if your great-great grandparents were from different places.

Secondly, it does not refer to y-dna which all male offspring of a man equally inherit. You cannot belong to different y-dna lineages and have the same Daddy. Hence, this does not in anyway change the fact that E-V32 and HG-T Isaaqs or other individuals from clans that have multiple y-dna lineages are descended from the same man. Nigga, don't hate the messenger!

I am sorry that you dedicated a thread to Zumaale that has so spectacularly backfired on you and your E-V32 confederate Khalid. You got it bad man! Y'all wanna really throw stones when you live in glass houses? You should both know better than hurling insults about ancestry shopping etc. when the two of you don't even have the same beliefs about who your Daddy was. One (Khalid) believes he is a Saadat Ahlul Bayt despite having an African E-V32 lineage whilst the other one (AwRastaale) claims to be Dir in one thread and then does a U-turn by shopping for another Daddy when it is that time of the month. Waa Labo Bakhti Bila Nasab iyo Aab!

I am actually embarrassed for the both of you, I kid. Mods make this a Sticky Thread Please.



Lately, I have taken the bait and suffered the foolishness of your ilk, let this be my coupe de grace as I take a leave of absence with Ramadan fast approaching.

[AwRastaale]

Ancestral ahoppwr Zumaale

No your Wikipedia essays of nothing are nothing new nor do they answer anything as clearly agreed by people who know what they are talking about let alone some Wikipedia kid.

No I do not claim I am Dir nor do I believe Dir is different to me. I am Cushitic and I believe all Somalis have common ancestry. I just don’t believe in all these bogus tags eg Irir, Dir, Ram Naga, Hebel Naga...

I may have trolled and entertained the Dir thing but not as you think.

I believe in the bigger picture and Dir as a Somali has no different ancestry than I am. Let’s be clear on that Mr ancestral shopper.

I am a Somali and Oromo is my cousin.

As time goes by we learn more about ourselves.

Keep trolling us with useless Wikipedia articles.

[AwRastaale]

What I am saying is Somalis have common roots just as do their other Cushitic cousins.

I do not believe the bogus tags such as Dir is more closer to me than bogus Darood tag or Hawiye.

All these are bogus tags just like the Arab myth.

We do not need to chase our own tails with these Ram Raga, Samaale, Dir, Isaaq, Darood tags.

Somalis are Cushitics end of story.

[theyuusuf143]

Isaaq ,dir , irir samaale. Super super clan

Vivaaaaa

[original dervish]

[BestPlaya]

@Zumaale

Which one does the Ev32 related more between the Bantus and Balkan Europeans

I read somewhere that Your T are closely related to some sections of Kuwaitis.

Are Daroods strictly all belonging to Ev32 ?

[Jabuutawi]

The length this guy would go to convince others (miserably at that) of his clan's dubious origins is astounding. Just take the L and move on; even going as far as quoting an obscure National Geographic article that only enhances his stupidity!

The old adage, aqoon la'aan, wa iftiin la'aan, applies here. The debate is not about autosomal DNA, but paternal (father, grand-father, etc) Y DNA haplogroup. Simply put, Isaaq have several fathers. You can say, y'all indeed have daddy issues. Some of you are E-V32 (like Oromos), others are T, while others may very well be A or B and yet to be determined.

Talk about historical shoppers for a daddy! Just make sure y'all return the shopping cart to its place when you are done shopping for a daddy.

[Jabuutawi]

@Zumaale

Which one does the Ev32 related more between the Bantus and Balkan Europeans

I read somewhere that Your T are closely related to some sections of Kuwaitis.

Are Daroods strictly all belonging to Ev32 ?

Who lives in Shilabo, DDSI? There was a sample taken there that showed 50% were T.

[Khalid Ali]

Dir is a fake clan I have met an gurgure guy and he said gurgure means qabil abtirsiitnisu guurguurto depending on warfare nomadic he said I can be oromo but I can be somali to. His mother is gad abuursi and his father is gurgure. Reer diredawa. He said sometimes we have alliance with ciise sometimes with gheri and some times with gad abuursi. All the garamgaran In dirs are fake. I now recognize biyomaal bajimaal gadabuursi ciise surre and gaadsan as dir authentic dir. The rest is fake not authentic and have take lineages to die ibn rannag ibn hindi

[BestPlaya]

@Zumaale

Which one does the Ev32 related more between the Bantus and Balkan Europeans

I read somewhere that Your T are closely related to some sections of Kuwaitis.

Are Daroods strictly all belonging to Ev32 ?

Who lives in Shilabo, DDSI? There was a sample taken there that showed 50% were T.

Makaahil and Bah Gari sub clans of Ogaden

[Advo]

Not all Darood, issaq, hawiye share the same paternal DNA

But that also applies to Dir too, not everyone who claims it will get beesha T.

[Adali]

@Zumaale

Which one does the Ev32 related more between the Bantus and Balkan Europeans

I read somewhere that Your T are closely related to some sections of Kuwaitis.

Are Daroods strictly all belonging to Ev32 ?

Who lives in Shilabo, DDSI? There was a sample taken there that showed 50% were T.

how big was the sample, Shilaabo is a small darood town inhabited by Ogaden, Marehan, Geri and even some Leelkase.

[zumaale]

@Zumaale

Which one does the Ev32 related more between the Bantus and Balkan Europeans

I read somewhere that Your T are closely related to some sections of Kuwaitis.

Are Daroods strictly all belonging to Ev32 ?

E-V32 and the predominately Eurasian E-V13 are both E1B1B. Their Bantu/Niger-Congo cousins are E1B1A. Nonetheless, bare in mind that E-V32 and E-V13 split a very long time ago thus it is pointless to discuss what sort of relation they have.

E-V32 appears to be the dominant haplogroup among Darood. However, there are individuals that belong to haplogroups T and J. None E-V32 lineages appear to be be more commonplace in the Big Darood subclans, Ogaden and Harti.

I know it might come across as confusing but in order to find out about Qabil lineages, one has to look at specific subclades within a haplogroup that came into being in the past two millenniums; E-V32 among Somalis is estimated to be around 4000 years old. Did the Somali E-V32, Oromo E-V32, Xabasha E-V32 split then? At some point in history, Somalis that are E-V32; other Lowland East Cushites that are E-V32 and the Cushites that were adopted into the Habasha ethnic group by the South Semitic settlers were one people. Hence, we are in the dark as to whether a Darood E-V32 is necessarily more closely related to say a Samaale E-V32, Oromo E-V32, Xabasha E-V32 etc. We do not even know how diverse the E-V32 found among Daroods is.

If you would like to find out more about the Darood E-V32, contact the administrator of the Somali FTDNA page https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/so ... background or Awale on Anthromadness http://anthromadness.blogspot.in/ .

The T subclade that I, Ciises, Isaaqs, Samaroons belong to is Y16897. Yes, we are distantly related to some HG-T Arabs but we do not yet know when we split from them. The ones that we are confirmed to be closely related to are members of the Al Ali subclan found all over the Gulf and Jordan. IMO, our ancestor and those of the Y16897 Al Ali clan members probably parted ways around the start of the Bronze Age, just a guess. Hopefully, as more of us do the y-full test we will know when the split occurred and when our common ancestor lived.

Who lives in Shilabo, DDSI? There was a sample taken there that showed 50% were T.

The sample is not confirmed to have been taken there, we can contact Iacovacci et al to find out where in K5 they obtained the samples.