The Golden age for Somalis from a clan perspective

[Adali]

As a Marehan I would say Somalis experienced two Golden ages.

1. the first Golden age was that of Amir Nuur Ibn Mujahid who consolidated power for Somalis in Harar and constructed Harar into the walled city it became famous for, he inherited a defeated sultanate from Imam Ahmed Gurey and turned it into a thriving sultanate that could defend itself against outsiders, he pretty much eliminated clannism which in my opinion is a shame but I recognize it as being necessary sometimes especially when the Somali ethnicity was on the verge of becoming extinct. He centered his sultanate around the islamic identity, and in many ways protected Islam in the face of Habasha horror.

2. the second Golden age was none other than that under the blessed Kacaan lead by Jaalle Mohamed Siyaad Barre, he consolidated power unlike no other since independence, defended us against outsiders successfully and uplifted Somali prestige to a level equal to world super powers, indeed he centered our identity on ethno-nationalism and fought against clannism in his own way, because our ethno-nationalist identity was boosted the Somali written language was formally introduced and propagated throughout the nation and beyond, music, art was also the focus.

What era do you consider the golden age, feel free to have a clan perspective.

[theyuusuf143]

1st golden age of isaaqs is when habaryoninis took over doolo and we have taken cayn. What we call daarood scramble. What a classic poems from that period. "Doqonkii ogadeen aha doollo laga qaadye" " military cadhooda lafbaw mallaw ka siiyaaya allaylehe isaaq baa mulkiyey maaxda Caynabo.


Second golden age . Is when we created SNM , defeated Afwayne and declared Somaliland , the history of that struggle is the most important thing that unites isaaq today.


What was your question again ?

[Adali]

1st golden age of isaaqs is when habaryoninis took over doolo and we have taken cayn. What we call daarood scramble. What a classic poems from that period. "Doqonkii ogadeen aha doollo laga qaadye" " military cadhooda lafbaw mallaw ka siiyaaya allaylehe isaaq baa mulkiyey maaxda Caynabo.


Second golden age . Is when we created SNM , defeated Afwayne and declared Somaliland , the history of that struggle is the most important thing that unites isaaq today.


What was your question again ?

Gartay so you would consider 1988-present, the golden age for Somalis from your clan perspective.

My view is that 1991-present is the dark ages of Somalis, so we have very opposing views of Golden age.

Another point, I would consider the colonial period which you mentioned, the battle over Doollo happened in the early parts of 1900s and was what I would consider another dark age for the Somali people, I would even include independence and the 9 years as a banana republic part of that dark age.

[AbdiWahab252]

When the HG man called Abdullahi Issa delivered Somali independence and created the first Somali government for the South.

[original dervish]

In the modern period from 1970-77.....so many achievements military, political and industrial.
If Somalia remained on the same development course....today we would be launching our own satellites.

The battle of Jidbale 1904....20,000 Dervish against 5,000 British, Indian and iidoor armed with rifles and machine gun's.
After the battle thousands of Dervish lay dead and dying......this is rightly called the birthplace of Somali nationalism.
The Dervish consisted of many clan's during the early period......Dhulbahante/Ogaden/HY and Marehan and others. AUN

[BestPlaya]

Ist golden age :Ahmed Gurey Jihaad against Habesha.His struggles consolidated the strong presence of Muslims in Abyssinia

2nd golden age :Ugaas Nuur cubudhiye reign .Consolidated the vast territories that are today known as Ogaden region .He karbashed all rival clans ;Iidoor in lafaruug ,Marehan in Dhusomareeb etc.

3rd.The southern conquest of the vast land between river jubba and river Tana by Darood groups mainly Ogaden clans and Marehan.This consolidated not only the territorial preeminence of Darood but also brought a name to the entire Somali community.

4th The anti colonial revolts in the north and the south which were both spearheaded by Ogaden men .The Sayid Mahamed's Dervishes who bravely fought the Englishmen and their sympathizers for 20 years before the RAF intervened .The Darood revolt in Jubaland most notably the sack of serenli that forced the British to secede Jubaland to Italy

5th :The SYL and the unification of south and north.

6th : The Kacaaan lead by MSB

7th : -------------?

[theyuusuf143]

1st golden age of isaaqs is when habaryoninis took over doolo and we have taken cayn. What we call daarood scramble. What a classic poems from that period. "Doqonkii ogadeen aha doollo laga qaadye" " military cadhooda lafbaw mallaw ka siiyaaya allaylehe isaaq baa mulkiyey maaxda Caynabo.


Second golden age . Is when we created SNM , defeated Afwayne and declared Somaliland , the history of that struggle is the most important thing that unites isaaq today.


What was your question again ?

Gartay so you would consider 1988-present, the golden age for Somalis from your clan perspective.

My view is that 1991-present is the dark ages of Somalis, so we have very opposing views of Golden age.

Another point, I would consider the colonial period which you mentioned, the battle over Doollo happened in the early parts of 1900s and was what I would consider another dark age for the Somali people, I would even include independence and the 9 years as a banana republic part of that dark age.

Yes I believe somali lives improved after the rebels kicked out the military regime. Yes there is still some areas effected by the lack of governance but most Somalis are dong very well in all aspects of life .

[original dervish]

Is this guy for real?

[Adali]

1st golden age of isaaqs is when habaryoninis took over doolo and we have taken cayn. What we call daarood scramble. What a classic poems from that period. "Doqonkii ogadeen aha doollo laga qaadye" " military cadhooda lafbaw mallaw ka siiyaaya allaylehe isaaq baa mulkiyey maaxda Caynabo.


Second golden age . Is when we created SNM , defeated Afwayne and declared Somaliland , the history of that struggle is the most important thing that unites isaaq today.


What was your question again ?

Gartay so you would consider 1988-present, the golden age for Somalis from your clan perspective.

My view is that 1991-present is the dark ages of Somalis, so we have very opposing views of Golden age.

Another point, I would consider the colonial period which you mentioned, the battle over Doollo happened in the early parts of 1900s and was what I would consider another dark age for the Somali people, I would even include independence and the 9 years as a banana republic part of that dark age.

Yes I believe somali lives improved after the rebels kicked out the military regime. Yes there is still some areas effected by the lack of governance but most Somalis are dong very well in all aspects of life .

I definitely agree SL has alot of positive sides and the living standards are quite good compared to some other parts of the world, but compared to the Kacaan I would say present day Somaliland falls short by an enormous margin, remember the Kacaan era Somalia was far better than most of africa, middle east and asia. countries today like Malaysia, Singapore, UAE, Qatar etc were below Somalia in living standards.

I would say present day SL has alot of potential, it is socially very restricted and very economically stagnant, politically extremely toxic and polarizing.

the colonial era was the worst, I mean no freedom, absolute servitude to colonial masters, how can you even mention that as a golden age, anyways no shade, do you.

[Icey]

How are we going to fix our problems if people are still dwelling on the past

Stupid old men

[Adali]

How are we going to fix our problems if people are still dwelling on the past

Stupid old men

its always interesting to discuss Somali golden age, so we can learn from those lessons and incorporate it in the future.

[theyuusuf143]

Gartay so you would consider 1988-present, the golden age for Somalis from your clan perspective.

My view is that 1991-present is the dark ages of Somalis, so we have very opposing views of Golden age.

Another point, I would consider the colonial period which you mentioned, the battle over Doollo happened in the early parts of 1900s and was what I would consider another dark age for the Somali people, I would even include independence and the 9 years as a banana republic part of that dark age.

Yes I believe somali lives improved after the rebels kicked out the military regime. Yes there is still some areas effected by the lack of governance but most Somalis are dong very well in all aspects of life .

I definitely agree SL has alot of positive sides and the living standards are quite good compared to some other parts of the world, but compared to the Kacaan I would say present day Somaliland falls short by an enormous margin, remember the Kacaan era Somalia was far better than most of africa, middle east and asia. countries today like Malaysia, Singapore, UAE, Qatar etc were below Somalia in living standards.

I would say present day SL has alot of potential, it is socially very restricted and very economically stagnant, politically extremely toxic and polarizing.

Tell me any sector that's lacking compare to the kacaan era?

[original dervish]

What are you on about....every sector by any measurement doesn't come close to the 1970-77 period.

[Adali]

Yes I believe somali lives improved after the rebels kicked out the military regime. Yes there is still some areas effected by the lack of governance but most Somalis are dong very well in all aspects of life .

I definitely agree SL has alot of positive sides and the living standards are quite good compared to some other parts of the world, but compared to the Kacaan I would say present day Somaliland falls short by an enormous margin, remember the Kacaan era Somalia was far better than most of africa, middle east and asia. countries today like Malaysia, Singapore, UAE, Qatar etc were below Somalia in living standards.

I would say present day SL has alot of potential, it is socially very restricted and very economically stagnant, politically extremely toxic and polarizing.

Tell me any sector that's lacking compare to the kacaan era?

apart from democracy every single sector

[Khalid Ali]

Golden era1827 up to 1936 . Habarawal sultanate in berbera caravan routes from bebera to wajaale to harar. The habarawal mulllahs who were teachers in adari. Sultan askar the habarawal sultan and his relations with both the turks and the Indian British crown in British indian company. Our deep relations with the sheikhs of shariqa in 1837. Emir sharmakre salah the isaaq hy sultanate in zeilah from the 1824 to 1877. Where he removed ciise and the Arabs from zeila and established a strong authority in zeila and the red sea.

golden era 1920 the defeat of Sayid siigeyste when the isaaq led the defeat of the first jihadi darood terrorist leader Sayid siigeste the battle of hagoogane. Where a freed wasakhgali and the qurjiles from Sayid siigeyste colonization and his sheikh saalax doctrine. And we spread the qaadiriya order of sheikh cabdukqadir gilani raxiummallah. The death of the masturbating mullah in imeey where we fed his mother to the gallas.

Golden era The British protectorate from 1940 to 1958. Isaaq bussineses flourishing the creation of the party system nuf usp. Which led to somali nationalism ethno nationalism. Sultan timma cadde poems.
Ahmed muhammed guleed and micheal Mariono party
Was the best party for Somaliland but isaaq supported ina cigaal and cali meygag samatar and hisbullh faction which led to the cancerour union.

1960 1969 were the best years of the cancerour union.
Ina cigaal and jimcaale party led to almost a victory


From 1969 we had Soviet dictator ship daroodism kacaanka Marxism Catholics goitism lennism. Shuuci bulcrap

Golden era came when snm and usc got rid of the atheistic faqash fascist regime. In 1991.

1991 the golden era mamlakaitl sadaatiya al isxaaqiyaa. We still shining. And today we are led by muse isaaqson al raisal al dawli....