Welcome to SomaliNet Forums, a friendly and gigantic Somali centric active community. Login to hide this block

You are currently viewing this page as a guest. By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics, ask questions, educate others, use the advanced search, subscribe to threads and access many, many other features. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join SomaliNet forums today! Please note that registered members with over 50 posts see no ads whatsoever! Are you new to SomaliNet? These forums with millions of posts are just one section of a much larger site. Just visit the front page and use the top links to explore deep into SomaliNet oasis, Somali singles, Somali business directory, Somali job bank and much more. Click here to login. If you need to reset your password, click here. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Daily chitchat on Somali politics.

Moderator: Moderators

OUR SPONSOR: LOGIN TO HIDE
User avatar
Adali
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 10588
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:04 pm
Location: Throw me to the hyenas and I will return laughing as the pack leader.

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Adali » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:27 pm



Beenta jooji boowe

Taxation is levied on economic activity

It is a % of business revenues

It therefore cant be more than money generated in Berbera or Hargeisa

Tell me what was the tax SFG collected from Galgaduud or Gedo?
You can't levy tax on people who you do not provide services for, SFG exist mainly in Benadir which is where it collects and spends 99% of its tax, having said that Mogadishu also overwhelmingly receives aid and investment on behalf of Galgaduud and Gedo who don't get a penny of the nations foreign income despite being two large regions.
Business revenues are earned boowe, not rewarded

The era of Booli Qaran is over

You want a share of income from Mogadishu's hard earned businesses

Shaqayso nooh

Pay taxes first on your businesses

Then you will get services
I am working alhamdulilah in a professional field, I am not in the west receiving benefits and there is no such thing as benefits back home so its work or die, I haven't sent a penny back home to relatives for a long time, only under serious circumstances do I send money back home, everyone is working alhamdulilah.

Now as for tax you need to understand Mogadishu is the main port for the south, they collect tax on imports going as far as Doollow Gedo, Beledxawo, Bardheere etc yet not a single penny is invested in those regions, so I don't know where you get your Booli Qaran theory from, its out dated nonsense.

Salaxbaashe
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 460
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Salaxbaashe » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:33 pm

When the Yemen crisis occurred and people ferried to Somalia, Somalis from all over Somalia were not allowed to dock on Berbera even though its their own soil and the Yemenis and Xabashis were allowed to come off the boats and enter the magaalo.

This is just one example of how the SNM thugs have wronged Somalis for no reason while achieving nothing.

Somalis from the South on that day learned that there’s no difference between the xaasidniimo of a jealous 3nd wife and an Idoor searching for Ictraaf.

Since Somalia government was recognised in 2012 aid money goes through them. Yemenis are seen as refugees so the UN takes care of them while Somalis are seen as idps. HSM instead of giving the idp money to somaliland was purposely withholding it so somaliland said take your people then. At the end somaliland ended up letting the people in but it was a great PR campaign for the faqash

That’s the day we South Somalis forgot about petty politics and started focusing on the real task at hand.

And every anti Somali policy you come up with will only make us stronger and get us closer


Sons of Somalia

Salaxbaashe
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 460
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Salaxbaashe » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:39 pm

Poor underdeveloped regions need tax money from big cities like Hergeisa and Mogadishu and ports like Berbera, Mogadishu and Boosaaso to build their regions

That is why they desperately want to hold onto Somaliland
the money Somalia has poured into the north far outweighs the money it get back, the unity is not based on economic interest, but principle of not dividing Somalis.


These people are deluded not one single penny from the south was spent in the north. We had three sources of income camel sales banana sales and military base sales. The majority of our income and the projects that were done for us like roads and factories were from soviets who were using berbera. When the Americans came they gave a lot less and we struggled. When they cut of aid after the bombing Somalia was broke that’s why it collapsed.

Salaxbaashe
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 460
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Salaxbaashe » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:54 pm

When the Yemen crisis occurred and people ferried to Somalia, Somalis from all over Somalia were not allowed to dock on Berbera even though its their own soil and the Yemenis and Xabashis were allowed to come off the boats and enter the magaalo.

This is just one example of how the SNM thugs have wronged Somalis for no reason while achieving nothing.

Somalis from the South on that day learned that there’s no difference between the xaasidniimo of a jealous 3nd wife and an Idoor searching for Ictraaf.

Since Somalia government was recognised in 2012 aid money goes through them. Yemenis are seen as refugees so the UN takes care of them while Somalis are seen as idps. HSM instead of giving the idp money to somaliland was purposely withholding it so somaliland said take your people then. At the end somaliland ended up letting the people in but it was a great PR campaign for the faqash

That’s the day we South Somalis forgot about petty politics and started focusing on the real task at hand.

And every anti Somali policy you come up with will only make us stronger and get us closer


Sons of Somalia
Since Somalia government was recognised in 2012 aid goes through them. The Yemenis are seen as refugees and the UN helps them separately. Somalis are seen as IDPs so the aid goes to somalia. HSM refused to give the aid money. Somaliland simply said take your people then. At the end they just let them in but it was a good PR move for faqash as they don’t care about honest or the truth but pure propaganda to further their causes.

The sense of entitlment is actually sickening. SNM thugs have wronged Somali people. Snm and somaliland hasn’t done anything to anyone. Regions that are messed up is because of the clan leaders of the region. It’s shocking how people can destroy you destroy themselves then be so entitled. 2006 when you released xabashis on hawiye they all came to somaliland and loads of them still live here and haven’t moved. Somaliland simply can’t take a influx of people fleeing a conflict without UN help it would be a humanitarian crisis and people would be all over the streets begging. If HSM released the money non of this would have happened. When faroole kicked out the raxanweyn from puntland even though puntland is part of somalia and not declaring independence where was the outrage. Are raxanweyn not citizens of Somalia and is puntland not claiming to be part of Somalia. It’s the hypocrisy. If there was somalinimo we would see raxanweyn on the same level and hawiye and darood but they’re not. It’s every clan for himself. Everyone’s perusing there interests that’s why somalia will never rise. We will probably balkanise into 3 or 4 pieces

original dervish
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 23733
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:08 pm

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby original dervish » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:21 pm

I don't see the point in rehashing the past....whats done is done look to the future. :som: :up:

User avatar
Kismaayo21
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2351
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Jaziiiraaa beachh

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Kismaayo21 » Mon May 07, 2018 3:01 pm

When the Yemen crisis occurred and people ferried to Somalia, Somalis from all over Somalia were not allowed to dock on Berbera even though its their own soil and the Yemenis and Xabashis were allowed to come off the boats and enter the magaalo.

This is just one example of how the SNM thugs have wronged Somalis for no reason while achieving nothing.

Somalis from the South on that day learned that there’s no difference between the xaasidniimo of a jealous 3nd wife and an Idoor searching for Ictraaf.

Since Somalia government was recognised in 2012 aid money goes through them. Yemenis are seen as refugees so the UN takes care of them while Somalis are seen as idps. HSM instead of giving the idp money to somaliland was purposely withholding it so somaliland said take your people then. At the end somaliland ended up letting the people in but it was a great PR campaign for the faqash

That’s the day we South Somalis forgot about petty politics and started focusing on the real task at hand.

And every anti Somali policy you come up with will only make us stronger and get us closer


Sons of Somalia
Since Somalia government was recognised in 2012 aid goes through them. The Yemenis are seen as refugees and the UN helps them separately. Somalis are seen as IDPs so the aid goes to somalia. HSM refused to give the aid money. Somaliland simply said take your people then. At the end they just let them in but it was a good PR move for faqash as they don’t care about honest or the truth but pure propaganda to further their causes.

The sense of entitlment is actually sickening. SNM thugs have wronged Somali people. Snm and somaliland hasn’t done anything to anyone. Regions that are messed up is because of the clan leaders of the region. It’s shocking how people can destroy you destroy themselves then be so entitled. 2006 when you released xabashis on hawiye they all came to somaliland and loads of them still live here and haven’t moved. Somaliland simply can’t take a influx of people fleeing a conflict without UN help it would be a humanitarian crisis and people would be all over the streets begging. If HSM released the money non of this would have happened. When faroole kicked out the raxanweyn from puntland even though puntland is part of somalia and not declaring independence where was the outrage. Are raxanweyn not citizens of Somalia and is puntland not claiming to be part of Somalia. It’s the hypocrisy. If there was somalinimo we would see raxanweyn on the same level and hawiye and darood but they’re not. It’s every clan for himself. Everyone’s perusing there interests that’s why somalia will never rise. We will probably balkanise into 3 or 4 pieces

User avatar
Kismaayo21
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2351
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Jaziiiraaa beachh

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Kismaayo21 » Mon May 07, 2018 3:02 pm

When the Yemen crisis occurred and people ferried to Somalia, Somalis from all over Somalia were not allowed to dock on Berbera even though its their own soil and the Yemenis and Xabashis were allowed to come off the boats and enter the magaalo.

This is just one example of how the SNM thugs have wronged Somalis for no reason while achieving nothing.

Somalis from the South on that day learned that there’s no difference between the xaasidniimo of a jealous 3nd wife and an Idoor searching for Ictraaf.

Since Somalia government was recognised in 2012 aid money goes through them. Yemenis are seen as refugees so the UN takes care of them while Somalis are seen as idps. HSM instead of giving the idp money to somaliland was purposely withholding it so somaliland said take your people then. At the end somaliland ended up letting the people in but it was a great PR campaign for the faqash

That’s the day we South Somalis forgot about petty politics and started focusing on the real task at hand.

And every anti Somali policy you come up with will only make us stronger and get us closer


Sons of Somalia
Since Somalia government was recognised in 2012 aid goes through them. The Yemenis are seen as refugees and the UN helps them separately. Somalis are seen as IDPs so the aid goes to somalia. HSM refused to give the aid money. Somaliland simply said take your people then. At the end they just let them in but it was a good PR move for faqash as they don’t care about honest or the truth but pure propaganda to further their causes.

The sense of entitlment is actually sickening. SNM thugs have wronged Somali people. Snm and somaliland hasn’t done anything to anyone. Regions that are messed up is because of the clan leaders of the region. It’s shocking how people can destroy you destroy themselves then be so entitled. 2006 when you released xabashis on hawiye they all came to somaliland and loads of them still live here and haven’t moved. Somaliland simply can’t take a influx of people fleeing a conflict without UN help it would be a humanitarian crisis and people would be all over the streets begging. If HSM released the money non of this would have happened. When faroole kicked out the raxanweyn from puntland even though puntland is part of somalia and not declaring independence where was the outrage. Are raxanweyn not citizens of Somalia and is puntland not claiming to be part of Somalia. It’s the hypocrisy. If there was somalinimo we would see raxanweyn on the same level and hawiye and darood but they’re not. It’s every clan for himself. Everyone’s perusing there interests that’s why somalia will never rise. We will probably balkanise into 3 or 4 pieces

I’m not in charge of Puntland, neither was I a military advisor or a politician in Abdullahi Yusufs TFG or Xassan Sheiks SFG.

If funds were inappropriately channeled and pocketed I do not support that, nor do I support any Somali to be denied entry in to his own soil for what ever the reason.

And that’s the difference between us. I am not a victim of blind clan loyalty. If my people do wrong against the Somali ethnic people I denounce them without prejudice or Uqdaad especially not about something that happened 25+ years ago that they had no hand in. You are lose cannon who enjoys freedom in foreign country, and you say that a Somali expecting that in his own country is a “sickening sense of entitlement “

Your reason for denying those Somalis in question according to you is £$ but the real real reason is politics as the SNM don’t want them to be called IDPs but refugees buy the UN told you they are IDPS, and after pressure from all angles you backtracked and let them in, had it been entirely up to you they wouldn’t have been allowed to dock.

User avatar
Publicopinion
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 967
Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:29 pm

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Publicopinion » Tue May 08, 2018 4:47 am

Why do iidors still fantasizing about hawiye -dooro beef when these two clans are two sides of the same coin.that is why farmajo is president of the republic we share a country we have same ambitions for somalia.our president enjoys bipartisan popularity. We are all well aware of the cuqdad xassad and hostilities you have for any non isaaq Somalis.

Salaxbaashe
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 460
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Re: Can darood live with out Mogadishu

Postby Salaxbaashe » Tue May 08, 2018 5:16 am

Lmao what is imaginary hawiye darood partnership you speak of. And no we don’t want hawiye darood beef we want you to leave us alone. Since 1960 the first pres pm was hawiye darood. The second was darood isaaq the third darood tumal for 21 years. After the over throw it was hawiye isaaq. Then somaliland declared independence three years later it became hawiye darood and that pair has stuck since raxanweyn are controlled by al shabaab and Isaaq are out of the picture there is no one to challenge that. If we rejoined somalia the first course of action would be us recieving our 60 seats after that we would team with hawiye. Hawiye isaaq is much more beneficial for hawiye than hawiye darood. Darood want their properties back in mogadishu and they have a want to rule over mogadishu. We are happy for hawiye to do as they like with the south. We would not be attacking their politicians and business men. We would then dismantle jubaland. We will see all the so called wadani daroods no longer favour somalia.

We don’t want to do this though we are preparing ourselves for a big civil war the UN will then partition somalia. We cannot live on top of each other it will always fail. People are wadani as long as they think their clan will rule. Siad barre killed somalia with his clanism the damage is irreparable. Farmajo has gone on and pissed of the hawiye now aswell. We’ll see how things go.


OUR SPONSOR: LOGIN TO HIDE

Hello, Has your question been answered on this page? We hope yes. If not, you can start a new thread and post your question(s). It is free to join. You can also search our over a million pages (just scroll up and use our site-wide search box) or browse the forums.

  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Politics - General Discussions”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: FarhanYare, kaliil and 19 guests