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BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby SGMM » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:58 am

The weak aura released by farmajo can even be seen by his mx tribesmen. I know deep down they're ashamed of his performance so far, i know I would if this was the guy representing my tribe :scusthov:

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Kismaayo21 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:26 am

Farmaajo spends his time flying around making concessions to afwerki and abiy but ignores the leaders within the country. What kind of politics is that?

Somalia needs to be fixed from within more than anything else.

The regional presidents are right in this decision. If he wants to play this game, they should as well.
You are delusional in calling these people ‘leaders’ and thrse states actual states. The Gov right now is not a Gov either but at least be consistent if you are going to make ‘moral’ arguments
Federalism is fated to fail in Somalia and it's by design by those who are pushing for this mode of governance down our throats. A jaahil society, a poverty ridden country where the bulk of the populace are illiterate should be governed by a western democracy? Whose idea was that?

Couple that with federalism built on qabiil and the repressions are cataclysmic.

Brushing that aside, farmaajo is the president of the entire country yet he has done nothing in his tenure. It's like he's riding the waves and isn't interested in fixing the country. He has done nothing of substance so far. Military hasn't been built, infrastructure iskaba daa, security haba ku fikirin inaad ka hadashaa taa all the while he signs dangerous deals with nations who are more powerful than us.

Farmaajo lacks the intellect and courage to run the country.

My point is you can't hold farmaajo, gaas and madoobe to the same standards when you consider the latter two to be warlords and anarchists. You hold farmaajo to higher standards, and by product of this you expect better/more from him but he is an extension of those two I mentioned, the only difference is he sits in xamar and pretends to be a president of the entire nation. Anything you accuse of maamul goboleed leaders, you can say the same about farmaajo.

You and the rest of the farmaajo occultists need to stop the double standards and the hypocrisy, praising farmaajo while vilifying madobe and others for lack of achievements regarding security, among other things.
You are totally right. Farmaajo should be held on an higher standard since he is the president.

if the maamul gobleed presidents showed that kind of behavior and respected to Farmaajo as their sole president and if they understood that Farmaajo is solely responsible for Somalia before they are do reckon that we would be in the similar scenario .

You can not blame farmaajo for not controlling the entire country while at the same time cheerleading for the likes of madoobe and gaas.

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:01 am

The weak aura released by farmajo can even be seen by his mx tribesmen. I know deep down they're ashamed of his performance so far, i know I would if this was the guy representing my tribe :scusthov:
Farmajo is not assertive. I see it

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Kismaayo21 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:09 am

The last time we had a assertive president you guys know what happened loool . And you don’t want to work with Farmaajo who is a bureaucrat.

I think you people benefit from the unrest and division of the Somali people. Be it to exclusively control one part of the country or two export raw materials while the government is weak..

You guys are asking “what cangovernment can do for you “ while in fact you should be thinking “what can I do for the government “

Lord knows you guys love anarchy

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Postby zidane88 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:35 am

Typical Somalis! tearing each-other, and not looking up the bigger picture. Has anyone asked why Micheal keating (UN envoy) of Somalia attended that meeting whose sole purpose was to challenge and undermine the federal Government? no one did, but you're tearing each-other like a pack of wild dogs on a carcass. The regional Governments can't afford such meeting without foreign fund, and the aim, well, it is obvious, create divisions. Both sides are wrong on this one. chest-beating won't solve the conflicts in Somalia, and the federal Government has to come up with a different plan than this. This young government is trying to run a marathon while it barely walks.

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:17 pm

Failmaajo needs to resign bring back sheikh Sharif. I think that's the only solution

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Kismaayo21 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:31 pm

Failmaajo needs to resign bring back sheikh Sharif. I think that's the only solution
Your input is not important you are currently on the naughty corner. You are not allowed to communicate with the rest until you behave. Farmaajo will call you when he thinks you are meeting the terms.

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:59 pm

Who decides that an ignoble midgaan boon marexaar. I will give my opinion regards to the Mogadishu political conflict midgaan corner is in garboxaaray only . Boonti durba dad bay isku haystaan you will go back to xaarwaalaqiskina

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Kismaayo21 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:06 pm

Who decides that an ignoble midgaan boon marexaar. I will give my opinion regards to the Mogadishu political conflict midgaan corner is in garboxaaray only . Boonti durba dad bay isku haystaan you will go back to xaarwaalaqiskina
Iska hadal lol. You should be like your president and hide under your bed, as your input is unwanted and needed. Mogadishu is the capital city of Somalia not a clan capital like hargeysa

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:23 pm

Mogadishu is a hawiye city the boon marexaan are mere guest's There . Their home is in ghetto..You are shaqaale hawiye intad xamar ku dhuumanaysid

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Kismaayo21 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:35 pm

Mogadishu is a hawiye city the boon marexaan are mere guest's There . Their home is in ghetto..You are shaqaale hawiye intad xamar ku dhuumanaysid
Waaka caqliga yar ee Eey-dhowr..

Is Hargeysa exclusively and only a isaaq city or is it the capital city of “somaliland” and all “somaliland citizens” or “non isaaq somalilanders” are marti in Hargeysa bal noo sharax Eey-dowr?

And does anyone that works for the “somaliland” government shaqale isaaq be it if they are gadabursi, Cisse or Harti? Bal noo sharax Eey-dowr? Let’s see how your aqli works

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby knet » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:40 pm

Below Raw Data displays this Government total failure 418 deadly Al Shabaab attacks in the last 6-months. These are by far the worst numbers


A study of Shabaab’s attacks from the six-month period between Oct. 2017 and April 2018 provides insights on the main areas of operation, capabilities, and tactics for al Qaeda’s branch in East Africa. Shabaab has managed to launch 418 attacks of different types during the six-month timeframe in support of its persistent and ongoing insurgency against Somalia’s weak central government and allied African Union forces.

Of the 418 attacks, 75 percent took place in southern Somalia, with 30 percent occurring in and around the capital of Mogadishu. Four percent of Shabaab’s claimed attacks took place in the neighboring country of Kenya, which has increasingly become a battlefield over the past several years.

Shabaab has used military assaults in nearly 40 percent of its claimed attacks. IED or roadside bombings made up 24 percent of Shabaab’s attacks. Shabaab used suicide attacks in just over two percent of its operations.

The target of Shabaab’s operations is predictable: nearly 54 percent of its attacks focused on the Somali National Army (SNA) and aligned militias, while 28 percent targeted the African Union Mission in Somalia, or AMISOM.

The information was gathered from Shabaab’s monthly operational reports. In total, 418 claims were compiled for this study. Out of these, only 167 claims (roughly 40 percent) were verified by independent sources, meaning that 60 percent cannot be confirmed. Moreover, Shabaab does not often release photo evidence for many of its attacks, further complicating verification.

Based on the nature of the insurgency and the relative scale of some claimed attacks, FDD’s Long War Journal assesses Shabaab’s claims to be credible. That said, Shabaab often inflates the numbers of killed or wounded in its operation, so data regarding casualties was left out of the study. Shabaab’s statements still indicate the types of operations and claimed areas of operation of the organization in East Africa.

The claims were broken down into categories of “types of operations,” “targets,” “locations,” and “regions.” The Somali military and police, as well as the Puntland Security Forces and intelligence, were combined into “Somali Security Forces,” while the Somali intelligence agency, NISA, remained separate. Attacks on Somali government employees or buildings were categorized under “Somali government.”

It should be noted that Shabaab refers to the Somali National Army as “pro-government militias” in its statements. While the Somali government does rely on a multitude of friendly militias in various regions, unless specifically named in the statement, all claims regarding “pro-government militias” were coded under the SNA.

Additionally, African Union forces, or AMISOM, and claims regarding SNA joint patrols with US Special Operations Forces (SOF) each had their own categorization.

Of the total 418 claimed operations, 125 occurred inside Mogadishu and its suburbs. The next highest was Afgoye with 28, followed by Bosaso (22), Baraawe (19), Qoryoley (17), and Beledweyn (16). Many claims also took place in or near Merca, Mahadaay, Kismayo, Hosingow, and Baidoa. The rest were sporadic claims in various locations across Somalia and Kenya.

The vast majority of claims, however, took place rather axiomatically within southern Somalia — that is, the regions of Banadir (125), Lower Shabelle (111), Bay (29), Lower Juba (26), and Middle Shabelle (23). Shabaab’s main areas of influence, operations, and strongholds are all within these areas of southern Somalia. The other areas of southern Somalia, namely Gedo, Lower Juba, and Bakool, also had claimed operations but in relatively small numbers.

The central Somali regions of Hiran and Mudug, which is in the semi-autonomous Puntland region, had a combined share of 39 claims. Further north in Puntland, the Bari region saw 23 claimed operations, the majority of which were in or near the capital, Bosaso.

Sixteen claims took place inside Kenya, with the majority in Mandera County. However, Lamu, Garissa, Wajir, and Tana River Countries also had Shabaab claims. All but three were able to be independently verified.

The most common type of operations were assaults, which consists of clashes, raids, and military assaults, with a total of 166 of the claims. This was followed by IEDs (101), assassinations (67), and then attacks with hand-grenades (43). Shabaab also claimed five public executions of its own members for alleged spying, which were coded under “internal attacks.” In nine instances, the jihadist group claimed capturing territory, which is under “ground offensive.”

Ten suicide bombings were claimed by the group, which were mainly used in large-scale assaults on Somali government or military sites, as well as AMISOM bases. Shabaab’s utilization of suicide bombers fits with the overall trend of how Shabaab uses the tactic, additionally it fits within al Qaeda’s general guidelines for the use of suicide bombings. All 10 bombings were independently verified.

Unsurprisingly, the overwhelming majority of claims (224), were against the Somali security forces, while AMISOM was the second most targeted entity with 117. The Somali government was the next highest with 23, which was followed by NISA (19). Several claims were against joint SNA-US SOF patrols or US personnel directly. Three of these instances were reported by local Somali media.

Only one claim specifically named a pro-government militia, the Ethiopian-backed Liyu Police. The militia mainly operates in Ethiopia’s Somali and Oromia regions but it also conducts operations inside Somalia both independently and alongside Ethiopian troops. Population centers, or towns taken over by Shabaab, targets within Kenya, and claims against its own members make up the other claimed targets.

The Islamic State’s fledgling operations within the country vastly pales in comparison to Shabaab’s. While the Islamic State’s branch in Somalia receives considerable media attention, it only claimed 23 attacks within the same timeframe as the data for Shabaab. These were largely assassinations of Somali intelligence or military personnel in Afgoye, however, two IEDs were also claimed within this time. [For more on the Islamic State’s operations in Somalia, see FDD’s Long War Journal report Analysis: Islamic State ramps up attack claims in Somalia.]

Al Qaeda’s persistent insurgency in East Africa

Shabaab emerged as the major jihadist group in Somalia after its predecessor, the Islamic Courts Union, was defeated by a US-supported Ethiopian offensive that began in late 2006. After Ethiopian forces withdrew, Shabaab took control of Mogadishu and many other major cities and towns in southern and central Somalia.

Shabaab has been resurgent in Somalia since losing ground to a combined African Union (AU) and Somali offensive in 2011. The jihadist group has slowly but methodically retaken several towns and villages that it lost in both central and southern Somalia – often after AU or Somali forces withdrew. In addition, Shabaab remains a potent threat against both African Union and Somali military bases in central and southern Somalia. It also retains the ability to strike within heavily fortified areas of Mogadishu, as seen time and time again.

The al Qaeda branch also remains a serious danger inside northern Kenya, where it has undertaken several assaults and improvised explosive device attacks and even increased its operational tempo there last year.

The US military has targeted Shabaab’s network throughout all of Somalia since 2006, when it began supporting the Ethiopian offensive. Several senior al Qaeda, Shabaab, and Islamic Courts leaders and operatives have been killed in the campaign. US Africa Command began ramping up the air campaign in 2017 after the US government recognized that Shabaab remained a threat to the United States, and noted it continues to run training camps in areas under its control.

The US campaign has not had a major effect on slowing Shabaab’s insurgency. Shabaab continues to control rural areas and small towns in southern and central Somalia despite military operations by the African Union and the Somali government.

Bill Roggio is a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and the Editor of The Long War Journal. Caleb Weiss is an intern at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a contributor to The Long War Journal.

https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives ... forces.php

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Postby Kismaayo21 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:18 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ it’s fake if you read into it you’ll realize that it’s unverified al shabaab claims. Even the author acknowledges it, but this guy who is reposting it has highlighted some parts and wants to call it the truth loool. We will see who falls for it they must be as dumb and desperate as you Knet

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Postby knet » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:31 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ it’s fake if you read into it you’ll realize that it’s unverified al shabaab claims. Even the author acknowledges it, but this guy who is reposting it has highlighted some parts and wants to call it the truth loool. We will see who falls for it they must be as dumb and desperate as you Knet
Them bombs don't hit me, why don't you go grow some balls and ask the citizen of Mogadishu and see if they agree or disagree with u.

BTW change your name Trash like u have been kicked out of Kismayo long ago. :mrgreen: :stylin: :eat:

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Re: BREAKING: Somali regional leaders to suspend working relationship with the Federal Govt

Postby Kismaayo21 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:59 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ it’s fake if you read into it you’ll realize that it’s unverified al shabaab claims. Even the author acknowledges it, but this guy who is reposting it has highlighted some parts and wants to call it the truth loool. We will see who falls for it they must be as dumb and desperate as you Knet
Them bombs don't hit me, why don't you go grow some balls and ask the citizen of Mogadishu and see if they agree or disagree with u.

BTW change your name Trash like u have been kicked out of Kismayo long ago. :mrgreen: :stylin: :eat:
Xamarna ana la horeeyo, Kismaayona ana ka horeeyo. Punatlandna Saaxo ana leh. Cadkeeyda cid qaadan karto ma jiiro.


No one can kick me out of kismaayo are you nuts. Nigga i am the majority in kismaayo and Jubbaland come the fuck on.

You are sooo desperate that you have copied and pasted an article which has disclaimer where the author discredited all claims as just that claims which are unverifiable. And most likely untrue .

You should focus on Tukuraq and lost land to secessionist.


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