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It's hard for people not versed in history to know what America great is the political fights that were had early on.

Literally America's system of judicial independence and balancing act between state's right and federal government were born through the vicious political fights between Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson.

Alexander Hamilton became America's greatest Finance Minister and Thomas Jefferson its Third President.

Yet these two HATED each other personal and were bitter rivals political; one leading the Federalist camp and the other the Anti-Federalist. I mean to this day that fight is going on and you have states like my state, California, New York, rtc that are refusing to work with Trump.

A mix of policies from both camps is what made America the most political stable country in world history.

What is happening in Somalia is unfortunate, but we should see this as beyond Farmaajo, beyond personalities, and beyond the moment. This is about the future of Somalia were political differences and policy contentions are needed to ultimately lead to a stable politicpolitical system.

I will caution in that breaking links is simply immature and akin to throwing temper tantrums. Even law enforcement do not break lines of communication with criminals in the hopes of preventing a stalemate. It's letting frustration getting in the way of breakthroughs and understanding.

I do, however, understand while America's bickering leaders were educated men who did not get to their positions for tribal reason, many of the actors involved in Somalia are not educated, do not have the good of the nation at heart, and are tribally motivated.

I just want to say to Farmaajo supporters and those that don't to have faith, hope, and to look at these political contentions in positive light.

We want them to fight politically. We want them to argue vociferously. We want them to have robust disagreements. We don't want a dictatorship. We don't need dictatorships.

And we certainly do not want out politics to revolve around personalities instead of systems.

Ultimately, this will bode well in the future when we have ingrained CHECKS AND BALANCES preventing overreach by any one party.

Everything you wrote is bullshit. Qabilyaad and modern governance are incompatible. Until we address that it's either anarchy or one clan dominating others.

That was a short rebuttal.

There is no ideology or vision in Somali politics.
Its all about getting into positions of power......and then capitalizing.

Ridiculous nonsense, Somalis are an illiterate, uenducated tribally motivated people. Only a dictator with an ironfist can bring them in line. Its why the 60s Democratic experiment absolutely failed and why MSB succeeded for a time.

I think Farmaajo has failed because of two reasons primarily:

A) He was supposed to ‘drain the swamp’ and clean house As much as possible and start anew. NISA, Ministry of Defense etc should have all been revamped massively and previously failed personnel should have been sent packing. Fast forward the same failed personnel are running amock with impunity.

B) Failure geopolitical wise. Failure to lure real powerful allies (AMERICA) while still mantaining your current allies (Turkey, Qatar). Why would superpowers trust this Gov when many of the same snakes are running around? With legit backing these small time little spoilers i.e (UAE, KSA) would get sidelined

C) Security failures last but not least. I think the reasons for those failures have a lot to do with my first two points but there may be others. Regardless of the reasons as the Commander in chief the buck stops with Farmaajo.


I’m pulling for the Man, but boy do things gotta get better and quick.

Somalia was a swamp less than 2 years ago. In the past 2 years the government had achieved a lot. Loads of new legislations and lots of lands captured from al-shabaab. No one can deny that this government is achieving.

Somalia was a swamp less than 2 years ago. In the past 2 years the government had achieved a lot. Loads of new legislations and lots of lands captured from al-shabaab. No one can deny that this government is achieving. Would we like things to get better; Ofcourse but things done in haste is usually not done right. The government has secured most of it borders and trained and pays almost all of its soldiers.
The taxation system has been implemented and all staff get paid. Corruption is the number one thing this government is spending their energy on the most, because that’s where all out problems stem from

The number 1, 2, 3 priority of Farmaajo should have been security specifically securing Mogadishu.

With the Parliament essentially underneath him, the one area he has complete sovereignty over his government has not demonstrated any meaningful results.

The problem inherently is one of intelligence gathering, finding double agents, and liquidating compromised police officials who allow these truck bombs to pass through. there doesn't seem to be any progress. to the contrary it appears the business establishment fearful of alshabaab reportedly pay taxes.

when you don't have your backyard in order you don't have much leverage or even power to project. all of the success in the international arena in re-establishing the Somali government, gaining recognition, will be meaningless if every day a police headquarters is taken out.

An independent parliament may have helped to resolve the current dispute with regional leaders but Jawaari was sacrificed for political expediency.

I don't think Farmaajo will be re-elected for all the above.

The problem inherently is one of intelligence gathering, finding double agents, and liquidating compromised police officials who allow these truck bombs to pass through. there doesn't seem to be any progress. to the contrary it appears the business establishment fearful of alshabaab reportedly pay taxes. .

The “intelligence” has been a joke and it is obviously at least 75% double agents. I don’t understand why he couldn’t fire everybody literally

Murax.. we need a matukade President who will conduct an unholy war against the extremist. One who will do what it takes to destroy the enemy.

Back to Farmaajo, he had momentum in the first 90 days. He should have focused on securing Xamar, draining the swamp in the security forces, taking no POWs, destroying the financing for terror.

The number 1, 2, 3 priority of Farmaajo should have been security specifically securing Mogadishu.

With the Parliament essentially underneath him, the one area he has complete sovereignty over his government has not demonstrated any meaningful results.

The problem inherently is one of intelligence gathering, finding double agents, and liquidating compromised police officials who allow these truck bombs to pass through. there doesn't seem to be any progress. to the contrary it appears the business establishment fearful of alshabaab reportedly pay taxes.

when you don't have your backyard in order you don't have much leverage or even power to project. all of the success in the international arena in re-establishing the Somali government, gaining recognition, will be meaningless if every day a police headquarters is taken out.

An independent parliament may have helped to resolve the current dispute with regional leaders but Jawaari was sacrificed for political expediency.

I don't think Farmaajo will be re-elected for all the above.

Money talks sxb. Failmaajo might be re-elected provided he brings a suitcase full of cash from QATAR

Farmaajos chances of reelection rest heavily on what happens in Kismaayo. Kismaayo is the key to wrestling Alshabab from Jubaland, if he succeeds in removing former terrorist Madoobe and reignite the fight against alshabab with Kismaayo as headquarters, he can really win a landslide election regardless of who he chooses as PM, if he fails Kismaayo he will most loose the next election if he even decides to run again.

the chances of an HG president an PM is still very low, no matter how much HG align themselves with Xawadle, Majerten and Ogaden, they remain their biggest opponents followed by Murursade, Abgaal, and Marehan had their turn so reelection is slim, if it does happen maybe we will see HG PM.