Blessed month of October we mark 30 years since Kacaan

[Ben Dover]

So why do you lose your mind when we say you breaking away non-negotiable? That attitude won't get you what you want, ironically, you are the standing in what you guys need the most in the world. Funny how things play out sometimes.

Do you do logic?

You are a cagdheer so naturally things must be explained to you in simpler terms. Let me try.

First of all, no clan can break away and form a state, this is a given. Not Isaaq and certainly not qurjiile or cagdheer. If you go down that rabbit hole then subclans can break away and eventually jufos can declare independence. Its a fool's errand.

However, and pay close attention here cagdheer, recognised countries that go into a voluntary union with other recognised countries have the right to make that union void and regain their former sovereign status, even if segments within said former country want to remain in the union.

Examples are aplenty: Egypt and Syria, Senegal and Gambia, Malaysia and Singapore...etc etc.

Imagine if Quebec or Scotland for instance actually voted for independence, would all the minority who would've voted to remain declare their independence from their new state?

Nope. The views of the majority will prevail. And in Somaliland, the vast majority of people want to regain their former sovereign state, so minorities have no choice but to follow the will of the majority.

To illustrate the point further, here is a bit of history from Somaliland actually. During the months leading to the Union of Somaliland and Somalia, the same qurjiile who cry for the 'union' today were opposed to uniting with Somalia, and their leader Cali Garaad Jamaac voiced his opposition to the union. Guess what happened next, the majority Isaaq who were eager to create Somaliweyn completely shut him down and said the now famous "Laa yaa Garaad" line, forcing the qurjiile into a union they did not want to join.

In both situations the minority qurjiile had no choice. When the union was first formed they opposed it initially, and were forced to obey the will of the majority Isaaq. And now when the union was annulled, they are again forced to obey the will of the majority Isaaq.

This is the best explanation I can do cagdheer, if you still dont understand which is highly probably given your cagdheer-comprehension then ilaahay hakuu sahlo

[original dervish]

A clearer case of delusion would be difficult to find anywhere on snet.

[dalalos101]

A clearer case of delusion would be difficult to find anywhere on snet.

I have to agree with the iidoor on this one, unity with Somaliland I support but breaking up Somaliland into clan fiefdoms wont serve the Somali interest, its better to fight Jeegaan from within like Garhajis are doing. When ever we mention Garhajis the Jeegaan get flash backs from the qamadi civil war

[original dervish]

We don't support any fighting.........s/l will wither and die on the vine in due time.
They've tried every trick and pulled every stunt over the last 30 years and only have the shitty Berbera deal to show for it.

[nine]

tbf, isaaqs should be let go. They are too far gone, there's no hope for them. They can keep waqooyi galbeed and togdheer, and maybe tiny bit of west sanaag.

We don't need their cuqdad.

Dhulbahante and warsangali lands in sanaag and sool will be part of Somalia as they've always been.

why hold on to these people when their 90 year olds are full of hate like this?

Thats my mindset too. As President I’d not only sign off Toghdeer and Waqooyi Galbeed but Duco baan ugu dari lahaa.

we can't work with these people. Somalis fight and live together, these people are different. If you scratch them by accident, they'll never stop talking about it and they won't forget. They only hold us back.

I agree too. Give independence to Isaaq territory. It is too much hassle to keep them because there will be issues in the future aswell. Their politicians are too dumb to integrate themselves into Somalia's politics and campaign for ictiraaf. smh I say give ictiraaf to all Isaaqland not an inch more

[metamorphosis]

So why do you lose your mind when we say you breaking away non-negotiable? That attitude won't get you what you want, ironically, you are the standing in what you guys need the most in the world. Funny how things play out sometimes.

Do you do logic?

You are a cagdheer so naturally things must be explained to you in simpler terms. Let me try.

First of all, no clan can break away and form a state, this is a given. Not Isaaq and certainly not qurjiile or cagdheer. If you go down that rabbit hole then subclans can break away and eventually jufos can declare independence. Its a fool's errand.

However, and pay close attention here cagdheer, recognised countries that go into a voluntary union with other recognised countries have the right to make that union void and regain their former sovereign status, even if segments within said former country want to remain in the union.

Examples are aplenty: Egypt and Syria, Senegal and Gambia, Malaysia and Singapore...etc etc.

Imagine if Quebec or Scotland for instance actually voted for independence, would all the minority who would've voted to remain declare their independence from their new state?

Nope. The views of the majority will prevail. And in Somaliland, the vast majority of people want to regain their former sovereign state, so minorities have no choice but to follow the will of the majority.

To illustrate the point further, here is a bit of history from Somaliland actually. During the months leading to the Union of Somaliland and Somalia, the same qurjiile who cry for the 'union' today were opposed to uniting with Somalia, and their leader Cali Garaad Jamaac voiced his opposition to the union. Guess what happened next, the majority Isaaq who were eager to create Somaliweyn completely shut him down and said the now famous "Laa yaa Garaad" line, forcing the qurjiile into a union they did not want to join.

In both situations the minority qurjiile had no choice. When the union was first formed they opposed it initially, and were forced to obey the will of the majority Isaaq. And now when the union was annulled, they are again forced to obey the will of the majority Isaaq.

This is the best explanation I can do cagdheer, if you still dont understand which is highly probably given your cagdheer-comprehension then ilaahay hakuu sahlo

didn't read

still stand by my first point. Take your eydoor pipe dream with you but you'll not force other clans to go with you.

Rebranding the clan enclave as a formerly independent nation that merged with Somalia isn't correct, if it was, it wouldn't take you this long to convince the IC of that little fact.


You can call me names all you want, if you want to break away, take your three cities and go. Dhulbahante, warsangali and samaroon will not go with you. If you insist on forcing them, then you have no right to complain about Somalia.

logic, go learn it.

[metamorphosis]

Thats my mindset too. As President I’d not only sign off Toghdeer and Waqooyi Galbeed but Duco baan ugu dari lahaa.

we can't work with these people. Somalis fight and live together, these people are different. If you scratch them by accident, they'll never stop talking about it and they won't forget. They only hold us back.

I agree too. Give independence to Isaaq territory. It is too much hassle to keep them because there will be issues in the future aswell. Their politicians are too dumb to integrate themselves into Somalia's politics and campaign for ictiraaf. smh I say give ictiraaf to all Isaaqland not an inch more

Their leaders are naago. They can't forget waxa ku dhaca like every qabiil didn't suffer.

They sit on small territory.
I wish dhulbahante and samaroon told them to F off seriously and removed them of their territories. They'll be left with hargaysa, berbera and burco, yet they talk like niman awood leh.

[Ben Dover]

So why do you lose your mind when we say you breaking away non-negotiable? That attitude won't get you what you want, ironically, you are the standing in what you guys need the most in the world. Funny how things play out sometimes.

Do you do logic?

You are a cagdheer so naturally things must be explained to you in simpler terms. Let me try.

First of all, no clan can break away and form a state, this is a given. Not Isaaq and certainly not qurjiile or cagdheer. If you go down that rabbit hole then subclans can break away and eventually jufos can declare independence. Its a fool's errand.

However, and pay close attention here cagdheer, recognised countries that go into a voluntary union with other recognised countries have the right to make that union void and regain their former sovereign status, even if segments within said former country want to remain in the union.

Examples are aplenty: Egypt and Syria, Senegal and Gambia, Malaysia and Singapore...etc etc.

Imagine if Quebec or Scotland for instance actually voted for independence, would all the minority who would've voted to remain declare their independence from their new state?

Nope. The views of the majority will prevail. And in Somaliland, the vast majority of people want to regain their former sovereign state, so minorities have no choice but to follow the will of the majority.

To illustrate the point further, here is a bit of history from Somaliland actually. During the months leading to the Union of Somaliland and Somalia, the same qurjiile who cry for the 'union' today were opposed to uniting with Somalia, and their leader Cali Garaad Jamaac voiced his opposition to the union. Guess what happened next, the majority Isaaq who were eager to create Somaliweyn completely shut him down and said the now famous "Laa yaa Garaad" line, forcing the qurjiile into a union they did not want to join.

In both situations the minority qurjiile had no choice. When the union was first formed they opposed it initially, and were forced to obey the will of the majority Isaaq. And now when the union was annulled, they are again forced to obey the will of the majority Isaaq.

This is the best explanation I can do cagdheer, if you still dont understand which is highly probably given your cagdheer-comprehension then ilaahay hakuu sahlo

didn't read

still stand by my first point. Take your eydoor pipe dream with you but you'll not force other clans to go with you.

Rebranding the clan enclave as a formerly independent nation that merged with Somalia isn't correct, if it was, it wouldn't take you this long to convince the IC of that little fact.


You can call me names all you want, if you want to break away, take your three cities and go. Dhulbahante, warsangali and samaroon will not go with you. If you insist on forcing them, then you have no right to complain about Somalia.

logic, go learn it.

There we go, caqli cagdheer

I knew you would not escape the curse of cagdheer-comprehension. Pretending you did not read the post does not make it any less compelling, even a cagdheer like yourself can sense that hence your denial of reading it.

The Somaliland argument is never based on clan, it is based on a sovereign state that went into a union with another state. By claiming Somaliland State was never independent you are shooting your 'union' delusions in the foot, but you wouldnt know that, cagdheer, would you?

Out of the 5 Somali regions, Isaaq dominate Somaliland more than any other group dominates its respective region. There is no escaping that fact. We will take our qurjiile slaves, they have no choice in the matter just like they had no choice when we decided to go for the union.

[xiimaaya]

God bless every solider every servent in siyad bare era

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

the failed dictator kudos to them somalia has been the laughing stock of the world famine war rape fleeing.


now Kenya and ethiopia came to somali to party every now N then

And this kids are obsessed with somaliland

[Khalid Ali]

2018 darood are being killed by shabaab and kikiuyu and they are under the mercy of hawiye in xamar

And Somaliland rules 95 percent of its territory quejiile and wasakhgali are our personal property

Ogadens are under galla slavery


2019 balugu sii socda

[Khalid Ali]

And some brain dead ogaden who is a slave of gallas in 2018 will decide Somaliland borders we rule tukaraq which is 6 miles from garowe no filthy darood doofaar can change our holy borders.. adigu futtada kikiuyada kudhexjir mise kondomyadi baad futtada iley ka soo guraysa weli. Manay reer cabdulle gacmuhu daalin.

This slave cagdheeer is the one who put you in that place to begin with. Yes I will decide your fate, God intended it, cry me a river naag yahay cacalaka badan.

Take waqooyi galbeed, take togdheere and leave, we will support your movement. Sanaag is staying put tho.

You are under axmed abiye abay nega ibn galla
Your hero iley is behind bars his anus is wide open after gallas raped him shabaab encircled your madoobe in kismayo. Where is your darood today totally defeated you are forced to beg Hawiye. I own all of Somaliland I am 5 miles away from garowe Bring your daarood to the border and we will anihilate you .

[qoraxeey]

Lets hope we have a massive damashaad and military parade this year

Make Somalia great again

[Sauron]

we can't work with these people. Somalis fight and live together, these people are different. If you scratch them by accident, they'll never stop talking about it and they won't forget. They only hold us back.

I agree too. Give independence to Isaaq territory. It is too much hassle to keep them because there will be issues in the future aswell. Their politicians are too dumb to integrate themselves into Somalia's politics and campaign for ictiraaf. smh I say give ictiraaf to all Isaaqland not an inch more

Their leaders are naago. They can't forget waxa ku dhaca like every qabiil didn't suffer.

They sit on small territory.
I wish dhulbahante and samaroon told them to F off seriously and removed them of their territories. They'll be left with hargaysa, berbera and burco, yet they talk like niman awood leh.

More verbal diarrhea from our brain dead cagdheer, it's funny you of all people use the word "wish" since you have been wishing to be free from your masters in decades, how does that worked out for you? keep wishing, but let me tell you one thing, you will be under Xabashi for the rest of your life as your grand kids and great grand kids. let that sink in.

[metamorphosis]

^That argument loses all credibility when we look at all the eydooors in the galbeed. I'd go one step further and call you a slave's slave(per your own logic), but I'll spare you that.

I am speaking facts, I am not interested in cantarabaqash. Outside of Berbera, Hargaysa and Burco, where you do you make a majority?

sanaag(as east as you get) is Dhulbahante and warsangali, and Awdal is samaroon.

Sit down, you ain't shit.