Its over for federalism in Somalia

[metamorphosis]

I know this sounds qabiliste of me but out of all the Darood clans I don’t see Marexaan as the ones who rebel when they are not in leadership positions. Our main lands are inside Somalia sonwe don’t look at it like we have a backup plan in Ethiopia/Kenya. As a Southern clan Marexaans realize they can’t enclave themselves in a corner like MJ’s. MSB AUN the ones who rebelled (to their own destruction ironically i.e Afgooye/Gaalkacyo massacres) were Daroods OG/MJ. The ones going against Farmaajo the most? Not D&M, Hawiye but other Daroods. This is just my honest observation. Thats why I gave up qabiil long time ago its complete and utter bullshyt. I believe Somali

it's bigger than that. darood politics is a lot more complex than that, and summing it up in that manner does it a great deal of disservice.
Looking back in history, you'll see arrays of intra darood conflicts inside Somalia, something which you do NOT see in other qabiils.

Harti and OG over kismaayo in the late 19th century.
Majerteen and the dervishes in early 20th century.
MX and ogaden in Jubaland in late 19th century.
SSDF being the first to attempt a coup on msb.
spm joining the quest to oust msb.
The darood conflicts of kismayo post civil war including jees, hiiraale and morgan.

So when you look at all those events, you'll understand why farmaajo's biggest foes are other darood tribes. Or you can look at farmaajo being the enemy here, since both gaas and madoobe were there before he came, and tensions only spiked with his arrival, meaning he is the problem. I imagine, the spectrum end you choose will depend on your qabiil.


in short, other qabiils aren't as competitive as darood. hawiye never had major wars with each other before the 90s, same with isaaq, but darood hostility towards each other goes back several generations. It's all about power and resources, other clans don't mind sharing and we don't like sharing.


A second point I wanna make is that MX make majority in one gobol, meaning even if they wanted to be a clan enclave, they couldn't, because of that mere limiting fact. Majerteen can be a clan enclave, and ogaden can be as well, but you cannot be, hence why MX, of all the darood clans, is the only one that is a die hard centrist, the only one that needs the government on its side. It's in their best interest, since in a federalism Somalia, MX, like right NOW, would be obsolete and irrelevant.
farmaajo understands this fact which is why he has waged a crusade against federalism, ignoring security, terrorism, poverty, and all other issues. He understands, a federal somalia is a massive disadvantage for marehan, while it is VERY VERY advantageous for other darood clans.

[Kismaayo21]

I know this sounds qabiliste of me but out of all the Darood clans I don’t see Marexaan as the ones who rebel when they are not in leadership positions. Our main lands are inside Somalia sonwe don’t look at it like we have a backup plan in Ethiopia/Kenya. As a Southern clan Marexaans realize they can’t enclave themselves in a corner like MJ’s. MSB AUN the ones who rebelled (to their own destruction ironically i.e Afgooye/Gaalkacyo massacres) were Daroods OG/MJ. The ones going against Farmaajo the most? Not D&M, Hawiye but other Daroods. This is just my honest observation. Thats why I gave up qabiil long time ago its complete and utter bullshyt. I believe Somali

it's bigger than that. darood politics is a lot more complex than that, and summing it up in that manner does it a great deal of disservice.
Looking back in history, you'll see arrays of intra darood conflicts inside Somalia, something which you do NOT see in other qabiils.

Harti and OG over kismaayo in the late 19th century.
Majerteen and the dervishes in early 20th century.
MX and ogaden in Jubaland in late 19th century.
SSDF being the first to attempt a coup on msb.
spm joining the quest to oust msb.
The darood conflicts of kismayo post civil war including jees, hiiraale and morgan.

So when you look at all those events, you'll understand why farmaajo's biggest foes are other darood tribes. Or you can look at farmaajo being the enemy here, since both gaas and madoobe were there before he came, and tensions only spiked with his arrival, meaning he is the problem. I imagine, the spectrum end you choose will depend on your qabiil.


in short, other qabiils aren't as competitive as darood. hawiye never had major wars with each other before the 90s, same with isaaq, but darood hostility towards each other goes back several generations. It's all about power and resources, other clans don't mind sharing and we don't like sharing.


A second point I wanna make is that MX make majority in one gobol, meaning even if they wanted to be a clan enclave, they couldn't, because of that mere limiting fact. Majerteen can be a clan enclave, and ogaden can be as well, but you cannot be, hence why MX, of all the darood clans, is the only one that is a die hard centrist, the only one that needs the government on its side. It's in their best interest, since in a federalism Somalia, MX, like right NOW, would be obsolete and irrelevant.
farmaajo understands this fact which is why he has waged a crusade against federalism, ignoring security, terrorism, poverty, and all other issues. He understands, a federal somalia is a massive disadvantage for marehan, while it is VERY VERY advantageous for other darood clans.

Just because you repeat a lie it does not make it true.

Mrx own more land than OG in Jubbaland. Where in Somalia do OG have more land than MRX for them to be a enclave.

Put kismaayo aside for a moment. In Jubbaland MRX almost exclusively own Gedo, don’t take my word for it, research and you will know. ThTs why we are guaranteed a Vice President or president position there.

In GG we MRX exclusively own 2.5 out of 6 Deegmo. We are guaranteed a Vice President or president position.

And we are centralist because we are leaders, not sheep.

Our competition is not with other Somalis from other regions or other clans. Our competition is with different nationalities and countries. We can see how this system is turning into a clan competition to oppress one another in the name of competition with other clans.

We are the builders of the central system. And the protectors of the realm. The defenders of the nation.

In history MRX has fought for Somalis and Somalia since its early mentions.

[zidane88]

Isn't it this government 'the blessed one' that is behaving this.

Hold your emotions please and refrain from insults.

[Nomand]

I don't think it will.be over for federalism, but farmaajo is destroying the enemy of the somali people one by one. Gaas will go and will be forced to accept the election results.

As for madoobe he will be sent to the dust bin of history. His entire clan came to kismaayo in 2012 and will be gone by 2019, never to be heard of again.

Madoobe will leave by force. This time farmaajo will understand you need friends in local politics. A marehan led Jubbaland will be the best ally for a central government

[metamorphosis]

I don't think it will.be over for federalism, but farmaajo is destroying the enemy of the somali people one by one. Gaas will go and will be forced to accept the election results.

As for madoobe he will be sent to the dust bin of history. His entire clan came to kismaayo in 2012 and will be gone by 2019, never to be heard of again.

Madoobe will leave by force. This time farmaajo will understand you need friends in local politics. A marehan led Jubbaland will be the best ally for a central government

yeah sure. The irony here is you saw a coast for the first time 20 years ago when hiiraale was employed by cayr.

[metamorphosis]

I know this sounds qabiliste of me but out of all the Darood clans I don’t see Marexaan as the ones who rebel when they are not in leadership positions. Our main lands are inside Somalia sonwe don’t look at it like we have a backup plan in Ethiopia/Kenya. As a Southern clan Marexaans realize they can’t enclave themselves in a corner like MJ’s. MSB AUN the ones who rebelled (to their own destruction ironically i.e Afgooye/Gaalkacyo massacres) were Daroods OG/MJ. The ones going against Farmaajo the most? Not D&M, Hawiye but other Daroods. This is just my honest observation. Thats why I gave up qabiil long time ago its complete and utter bullshyt. I believe Somali

it's bigger than that. darood politics is a lot more complex than that, and summing it up in that manner does it a great deal of disservice.
Looking back in history, you'll see arrays of intra darood conflicts inside Somalia, something which you do NOT see in other qabiils.

Harti and OG over kismaayo in the late 19th century.
Majerteen and the dervishes in early 20th century.
MX and ogaden in Jubaland in late 19th century.
SSDF being the first to attempt a coup on msb.
spm joining the quest to oust msb.
The darood conflicts of kismayo post civil war including jees, hiiraale and morgan.

So when you look at all those events, you'll understand why farmaajo's biggest foes are other darood tribes. Or you can look at farmaajo being the enemy here, since both gaas and madoobe were there before he came, and tensions only spiked with his arrival, meaning he is the problem. I imagine, the spectrum end you choose will depend on your qabiil.


in short, other qabiils aren't as competitive as darood. hawiye never had major wars with each other before the 90s, same with isaaq, but darood hostility towards each other goes back several generations. It's all about power and resources, other clans don't mind sharing and we don't like sharing.


A second point I wanna make is that MX make majority in one gobol, meaning even if they wanted to be a clan enclave, they couldn't, because of that mere limiting fact. Majerteen can be a clan enclave, and ogaden can be as well, but you cannot be, hence why MX, of all the darood clans, is the only one that is a die hard centrist, the only one that needs the government on its side. It's in their best interest, since in a federalism Somalia, MX, like right NOW, would be obsolete and irrelevant.
farmaajo understands this fact which is why he has waged a crusade against federalism, ignoring security, terrorism, poverty, and all other issues. He understands, a federal somalia is a massive disadvantage for marehan, while it is VERY VERY advantageous for other darood clans.

Just because you repeat a lie it does not make it true.

Mrx own more land than OG in Jubbaland. Where in Somalia do OG have more land than MRX for them to be a enclave.

Put kismaayo aside for a moment. In Jubbaland MRX almost exclusively own Gedo, don’t take my word for it, research and you will know. ThTs why we are guaranteed a Vice President or president position there.

In GG we MRX exclusively own 2.5 out of 6 Deegmo. We are guaranteed a Vice President or president position.

And we are centralist because we are leaders, not sheep.

Our competition is not with other Somalis from other regions or other clans. Our competition is with different nationalities and countries. We can see how this system is turning into a clan competition to oppress one another in the name of competition with other clans.

We are the builders of the central system. And the protectors of the realm. The defenders of the nation.

In history MRX has fought for Somalis and Somalia since its early mentions.

there are two presidents in GG, and both are HG. Explain that?

why are you willing to take the vice president position there, but unwilling to work with ogaden in Jland?
I wanna say compliance was forced out of you by hawiye in that region, after repeatedly losing massive amounts of lands to them. Something we have no done to you.

[nine]

it's bigger than that. darood politics is a lot more complex than that, and summing it up in that manner does it a great deal of disservice.
Looking back in history, you'll see arrays of intra darood conflicts inside Somalia, something which you do NOT see in other qabiils.

Harti and OG over kismaayo in the late 19th century.
Majerteen and the dervishes in early 20th century.
MX and ogaden in Jubaland in late 19th century.
SSDF being the first to attempt a coup on msb.
spm joining the quest to oust msb.
The darood conflicts of kismayo post civil war including jees, hiiraale and morgan.

So when you look at all those events, you'll understand why farmaajo's biggest foes are other darood tribes. Or you can look at farmaajo being the enemy here, since both gaas and madoobe were there before he came, and tensions only spiked with his arrival, meaning he is the problem. I imagine, the spectrum end you choose will depend on your qabiil.


in short, other qabiils aren't as competitive as darood. hawiye never had major wars with each other before the 90s, same with isaaq, but darood hostility towards each other goes back several generations. It's all about power and resources, other clans don't mind sharing and we don't like sharing.


A second point I wanna make is that MX make majority in one gobol, meaning even if they wanted to be a clan enclave, they couldn't, because of that mere limiting fact. Majerteen can be a clan enclave, and ogaden can be as well, but you cannot be, hence why MX, of all the darood clans, is the only one that is a die hard centrist, the only one that needs the government on its side. It's in their best interest, since in a federalism Somalia, MX, like right NOW, would be obsolete and irrelevant.
farmaajo understands this fact which is why he has waged a crusade against federalism, ignoring security, terrorism, poverty, and all other issues. He understands, a federal somalia is a massive disadvantage for marehan, while it is VERY VERY advantageous for other darood clans.

Just because you repeat a lie it does not make it true.

Mrx own more land than OG in Jubbaland. Where in Somalia do OG have more land than MRX for them to be a enclave.

Put kismaayo aside for a moment. In Jubbaland MRX almost exclusively own Gedo, don’t take my word for it, research and you will know. ThTs why we are guaranteed a Vice President or president position there.

In GG we MRX exclusively own 2.5 out of 6 Deegmo. We are guaranteed a Vice President or president position.

And we are centralist because we are leaders, not sheep.

Our competition is not with other Somalis from other regions or other clans. Our competition is with different nationalities and countries. We can see how this system is turning into a clan competition to oppress one another in the name of competition with other clans.

We are the builders of the central system. And the protectors of the realm. The defenders of the nation.

In history MRX has fought for Somalis and Somalia since its early mentions.

there are two presidents in GG, and both are HG. Explain that?

why are you willing to take the vice president position there, but unwilling to work with ogaden in Jland?
I wanna say compliance was forced out of you by hawiye in that region, after repeatedly losing massive amounts of lands to them. Something we have no done to you.

We settle in Caabufwaaq district in Galmudug and got seats and VP position and you're telling us to go for Presidency because of one district do you know how outrageous that is but you want Marehan to be a side b!tch in JL when we heavily populate a whole gobol what an nacas you are the idiocy of your clan is crazy what the frick man

Kulahaa complianve was forced please tell us when the massacres occured where we were subdued oh wait doqonkii ogaden is freaking xoolo repeating the same nonsense about "losing lands" your lies have been debunked time and time again come on be creative naayaa stand on your own two feet

[Togdeer]

I think it’s a big mistake for south Somalia to get rid of the federal system. The paper government does not have full control of Mogadishu. Right now they are in no position to control other regions.

What you think does not matter. The unitary central system will be restored by hook or crook and we will end the failed experiment that is federalism. Funny you call it a paper gov when it strongarmed hirshabelle,southwest and galmudug. Only ones left are dabacyo and cagdheer which are now isolated from mama Ethiopia.

Somaliland is not part of this, we are not part of Somalia. A part from making regular visits to Ethiopia what has your leader achieved?
Mogadishu is much worse than when HSM was there. What has your paper leader done for the people?