Breaking news Abu Mukhtar Rooboow arrested!

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Murax and Zidane88

I am hesitant of this move too. I believe it could be a major point in Farmajo's term if Baidoa pro Robow folks are tamed. That could mean Farmajo is taking the position of a strongman. This of course could be avoided by leaving him be but it seems the SFG is adamant.
This is in tribal and Maamul Goboleed territory making it crazier.

If he fails, well he ruffled feathers and people may be even more wary of him.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

What is coming is worse than this. I have got inside info, and it is not good news. The Government is heading in to a cliff-edge.

I think its very clear what’s coming. Thr Gov wants 5 regional heads that are either loyal to it by 2021 before the new elections or not. We’ll see what happens.

These goveners need to be in line, hopefully loyal Somali citizens will win those elections.

[Voltage]

Exactly. Widaayow do you know what i find ironic? Abu mansuur gets arrested while the MX zakariye Hersi Is the head of NISA. Cajiib. Do they think they can fool us?

This will backfire on them like Qalbi Dhagax and the raid on Abdishakur.

Farmaajo did not appoint Zakariye Hersi. Hassan Sheekh did. He provided a lot of Intel and broke up many Shabaab cells.

Secondly, I don't support the arrest of Abu Mansuur, but apparently AMISOM has said he reneged on his conditions of surrender and cultivated armed militia from his previous Shabaab group whose loyalty he had.

That's incorrect. Zakariye surrendered during Hassan Sheikh, but Farmaajo appointed him to his position in NISA.

I stand corrected. Although it seems he joined NISA during Hassan Sheikh but was promoted during Farmaajo.

Abkoow-

I don't know but me and Murax. It seems we are both against the arrest of Abu Mansuur. I merely gave the reason why the government arrested wbile saying I don't agree with it. I personally think not only should he not have been arrested, but that it is politically volatile to do so because Digil Mirifle will cement the idea they are under attack. We saw how Habar Gidir acted when Hassan Dahir Aweys was arrested now multiply by a 100 because with Jawaari being removed, Shariif Sakiin resigning, the issue now with the Speaker, and then arresting Abu Mansur is the dumbest and most dangerous action thisgovernment could have done.

The government should realize in a war torn society like ours and that is still at reconciliation you just cannot give the implication out there that an entire Tribe is under attack.

If I could advice Farmaajo, I would take immediate steps to rectify the situation starting with meeting the Digil and Mirifl parliamentarians followed by their Malaaqs/traditional elders and he should immediately implement the steps they agree on.

[Shirib]

Farmaajo did not appoint Zakariye Hersi. Hassan Sheekh did. He provided a lot of Intel and broke up many Shabaab cells.

Secondly, I don't support the arrest of Abu Mansuur, but apparently AMISOM has said he reneged on his conditions of surrender and cultivated armed militia from his previous Shabaab group whose loyalty he had.

That's incorrect. Zakariye surrendered during Hassan Sheikh, but Farmaajo appointed him to his position in NISA.

I stand corrected. Although it seems he joined NISA during Hassan Sheikh but was promoted during Farmaajo.

Abkoow-

I don't know but me and Murax. It seems we are both against the arrest of Abu Mansuur. I merely gave the reason why the government arrested wbile saying I don't agree with it. I personally think not only should he not have been arrested, but that it is politically volatile to do so because Digil Mirifle will cement the idea they are under attack. We saw how Habar Gidir acted when Hassan Dahir Aweys was arrested now multiply by a 100 because with Jawaari being removed, Shariif Sakiin resigning, the issue now with the Speaker, and then arresting Abu Mansur is the dumbest and most dangerous action thisgovernment could have done.

The government should realize in a war torn society like ours and that is still at reconciliation you just cannot give the implication out there that an entire Tribe is under attack.

If I could advice Farmaajo, I would take immediate steps to rectify the situation starting with meeting the Digil and Mirifl parliamentarians followed by their Malaaqs/traditional elders and he should immediately implement the steps they agree on.

Digil y Mirifle is usually the most divided clan, but they seem to be very united on this front.

The arrest of Roobow a week before elections also sends a terrible message to all other states. Somali's have actually been surprisingly good at elections and passing over power to the next man. To arrest Roobow a week before elections is nothing more than a political move that is ensuring Villa Somalia get's their hand picked man in Baydhabo.

The precedence this sets is very problamatic if not rectified. Gaas is probably looking at this and thinking if it looks Iike I'm gonna lose my seat in Puntland I'm gonna get some phony charges and just arrest my political opponent.

I don't know much about Lafta Gareen personally but I hear he isn't even supported by his own subclan.

Husseinoow on the other hand couldn't win a vote of confidence from his sub sub clan much less anyone else .

[zidane88]

Murax. You didn't think that the more you marginalise a clan the more they join Al-Shabab. You can't lose chunk of Sub-clans in every region, it is not a win-win situation but 360 degree failure.

[Murax]

Murax. You didn't think that the more you marginalise a clan the more they join Al-Shabab. You can't lose chunk of Sub-clans in every region, it is not a win-win situation but 360 degree failure.

The thing is it’s different. With Madoobe I don’t think think he’s hugely popular amongst Absame so it Farmaajo supports another Ogaden there I don’t think it matters same with Puntland and Gaas. HiirShabelle worked out as far as an understanding as did Galmudug. As I said in my 1st post though what sepetates this Roobow situation from others is the fact that Roobow was popular locally which might piss off a major clan in D&M. Like I said earlier if it was gonna end like this I don’t know why they let him go free in the 1st place.

[zidane88]

I don't think it is time now for this government to flex its muscles. We must not forget it is a reconciliation government, and it has to act accordingly. We had 28 years of bloodshed, and we don't want anymore.

[Murax]

I don't think it is time now for this government to flex its muscles. We must not forget it is a reconciliation government, and it has to act accordingly. We had 28 years of bloodshed, and we don't want anymore.

I agree completely, I just disagree with the notion that these regional leaders are loved and beloved by their clans. This situation though in Baydhabi is different. After just now watching the videos of baydhabo and the Odayaal speaking I can now say this Roobow thing was a collosol disaster for the Gov. Roobow arrested, other ‘Islamists’ not. Jawaari, roobow situations and now this current speaker on bad terms with the Gov, I can see it happening where D&M feel that the Gov is targetting them and they have to fight for survival.

[Shirib]

I don't think it is time now for this government to flex its muscles. We must not forget it is a reconciliation government, and it has to act accordingly. We had 28 years of bloodshed, and we don't want anymore.

I agree completely, I just disagree with the notion that these regional leaders are loved and beloved by their clans. This situation though in Baydhabi is different. After just now watching the videos of baydhabo and the Odayaal speaking I can now say this Roobow thing was a collosol disaster for the Gov. Roobow arrested, other ‘Islamists’ not. Jawaari, roobow situations and now this current speaker on bad terms with the Gov, I can see it happening where D&M feel that the Gov is targetting them and they have to fight for survival.

D&M are usually very fractured from the fact that they are made up of over a dozen small clans and it's hard to get buy in from all. But this is the first time that I've seen where all of D&M seem to be united on this. The infighting between the speaker and Farmaajo all has to do with federal governments continuous interference in SW elections.

Frustration also stems from the fact that D&M wasn't hostile to villa Somalia. The vast majority of D&M were with Farmaajo. They were opposed to Sakiin and wanted close ties with the federal government. Now it feels like that's been discarded and they're being walked all over.

The dowlad's candidates are also not liked by anyone, and it's being forced down their throat by hook or by crook. Arresting political opponents and installing your own man is a terrible precedent to be set.

[Shirib]

And to put the cherry on top it's a really bad signal that Ethiopian forces arrested him and are now patrolling Baydhabo and shooting at protestors. That's image isn't going to go away soon.

[Voltage]

An absolute shitty mistake to arrest Abu Mansuur. I say again this is the dumbest and biggest mistake he has made yet so far.

Abu Mansuur was ALWAYS a popular figure with Digil Mirifle. He is probably the single most popular figure of a tribe in all of Somalia. This was a serious miscalculation.

I am afraid the government will probably not give in now because they don't want to set the PRECEDENT that all a group has to do is demand it for their guy to be released. Next HG will demand the freedom of Hassan Dahir Aweys.

Ah, Farmaajo and his gov will regret this decision

[zidane88]

Murax. We all know that regional mini-states doesn't consist a single clan but allied clans, disrupting, interfering them internally, using foreign, or local forces won't bring a harmony. as the Somali saying goes "togba taagii buu rogmadaa" We all know the capabilty of the government that it can't handle security situation in Mogadisho let alone the whole regions.

Chest-beating and fake bravado won't bring long lasting peace. Abdirahman C/shakuur is the loudest noise against the government and he's doing it in the face of Farmaajo in Mogadisho knowing that he's surrounded by his cousins who, in other way, are SNA. The whole SNA are loyal to their clans, if not, we would have a long lasting peace ages ago. The only way this government would have succeeded was had it chose the peaceful way.

Think about the money being spent on bribing the MPs from different regional states had it been used on other channels.

[Django]

This govt thinks everyone is qalbi dagax.
Anyway Farmajo just shot himself in the foot.He things he has Abyes backing.

[Turbulence]

What raxanwein clan does Roboow hail from? And was he the most popular candidate for the regional presidency before he was arrested?

Leysaan and he would have won.

Thanks. If the current administration was behind this arrest then this was a stupid move and it will backfire on them.

[Mustafee101]

This why he was arrested (http://saadaalnews.net/?p=233741)