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You are the plaintiff, bring the evidence supporting your claim that we are not Dir . I need solid evidence.

I can use my Dir community networks for any purposes I want, politically or militarily. That's the definition of being 'Tol'. What's the point of being tol if there is no common interests between the community or the clan.

You are the plaintiff, bring the evidence supporting your claim that we are not Dir . I need solid evidence.

I can use my Dir community networks for any purposes I want, politically or militarily. That's the definition of being 'Tol'. What's the point of being tol if there is no common interests between the community or the clan.

All of the elders know the true genealogies of the different tribes. Isaaq has always been dir, but I guess somnet revisionists want to distance themselves from their irir zuumale cousins.

You are the plaintiff, bring the evidence supporting your claim that we are not Dir . I need solid evidence.

I can use my Dir community networks for any purposes I want, politically or militarily. That's the definition of being 'Tol'. What's the point of being tol if there is no common interests between the community or the clan.

99% of Isaaq agree with us that our genealogy goes to sheekh Isxaaq ibn Axmed buried at Maydh . Then comes you and few others mostly seeking political appointment in Italian somalia claiming to be Dirty-waqooyi contrary to centuries of tradition.

The question is for you and your Dir Ibnu Maaha Ibnu Ram Ibnu Naag Ibnu Zaag what evidence you have to overthrow centuries of tradition by this grass skirt wearing witch doctor Raag Zaag Naag Raam?

As a Habar Awal I reject this Dir garbage label...we are Isaaqs nothing more and nothing less.We have our own history and culture. I will never see Samarone iyo Akisho as my brothers

Even isaaq poets refer to themselves as Dir. what intrest would darood have in referring to us as Dir in the jaahiliya days. Where does the maha dir linage come from because there is a Dir clan called isaaq somewhere out there.

To me it seems more that you don’t want to be Dir than us not actually being Dir. I don’t understand why would want to be a black arab. An akhdam instead of a somaal.

what Isaaq poet ever referred to himself as Dir??? i don't recall any isaaq poet of the classical era ever referring himself to be a descendant of blood drinking Raag Ibnu Zaag Ibnu Raam. Old isaaq were very careful and particular about genealogy it wasn't a joke or a thing to change, unlike today's generation where punch of potbellied potato heads are appointed as Caaqil and Sultans.

TheYusuf, pretty much all academic sources published prior to independence clearly state Isaaq to be a separate clan, you can look at English, Italian, French or Arabic sources and you will pretty much find the same answer. In addition to that you have the entire Isaaq nation clearly stating they are Isaaq and not Dir. In addition to that you have the political history of Dir Vs Isaaq where Dir always made a point to proclaim their distinct Dir identity and form alliances with our enemies, that was true in the 1950s pre independence, it was also true in 1988 where Afweyne employed the service of Dir against us.

You are inventing this Dir thing out of thin air for the sake of political gain. This is what an inangumeed langaab would do not an arrogant reer Daahir man, wtf. You should be kicking subclans out of Isaaq on technicalities out of sheer kibir, and here we have you taking all of Isaaq under Dir, waar waad waalatey

I am happy to have the southern Dir come under the Isaaq banner and pay dia with us so that they are not seen as minorities by qadaadweyn, even if we do not share a clan with them they are our tol. But Isaaq will never accept any other Dir, your project is rejected by 99.9% of Isaaq.

I am very close to revoking your HJ card, this is your last warning.

Reer sheikh isxaaq have always been sadaat people . Sheikh isxaaq ibn axmed ibn maxammad ibn xusseyn al madhar. Before 1960 I have never heard this dir story we pure fabrication not a single Isaaq elder believes in this dir. Aflow once said caruurti rasuulki banu nahay laisma caasiyee in asharaafta lala caytame waba caariyokale. The yusuf his own reer daahir ina nuurfadal gabaygisa wuxu ku so gunanaday inyaro baaqiyo bini hashima hadhi eh.

What umbrella?

Isaaq is a stand alone clan, politicians created this Dir thing out of thin air after the union of Somaliland and Somalia. What is laughable is that the proponents of this Dir BS have a single piece of evidence whenever they are asked to substantiate this claim, and that is a poetic verse by some doofaar ismaacil, as if doofaar ismaaciil buraanbur is the arbiter of lineage. And if that is the case, then by the myriad Isaaq poetic verses that describe doofaar ismaacil as midgaan, then the doofaars should accept their true lineage to be midgan since it is in Isaaq poetic folklore.

Besides, the meaning of Dir in that specific verse was explained by Xplaya and Lejusticier in detail.

Isaaq not being an Arab does not automatically = Isaaq is Dir. Isaaq has always been a stand alone clan.

There are numerous published sources prior to the union which refer to the Isaaq as Dir - this is not a knew thing the Isaaq were always considered Dir by other Somali clans.

You are an uneducated qurjiile midgaan, I am having a discussion with your Duriyada owners.

Piss off before I make you flee this thread too.

What umbrella?

Isaaq is a stand alone clan, politicians created this Dir thing out of thin air after the union of Somaliland and Somalia. What is laughable is that the proponents of this Dir BS have a single piece of evidence whenever they are asked to substantiate this claim, and that is a poetic verse by some doofaar ismaacil, as if doofaar ismaaciil buraanbur is the arbiter of lineage. And if that is the case, then by the myriad Isaaq poetic verses that describe doofaar ismaacil as midgaan, then the doofaars should accept their true lineage to be midgan since it is in Isaaq poetic folklore.

Besides, the meaning of Dir in that specific verse was explained by Xplaya and Lejusticier in detail.

Isaaq not being an Arab does not automatically = Isaaq is Dir. Isaaq has always been a stand alone clan.

There are numerous published sources prior to the union which refer to the Isaaq as Dir - this is not a knew thing the Isaaq were always considered Dir by other Somali clans.

And where are these " sources"?

You are an uneducated qurjiile midgaan, I am having a discussion with your Duriyada owners.

Piss off before I make you flee this thread too.

Uneducated?

I have a LLM from a prestigious Russell Group university yaa inan gumeed, have you finished elementary school yet? Am sure an old fart like yourself would properly never had attended school at all lol.

And this is an open forum anybody can participate!

Your midgaan langaab clan were always considered Dir by all Somali clans and they are still considered Dir hence why under the 4.5 forumala they come under Dir.

You are an uneducated qurjiile midgaan, I am having a discussion with your Duriyada owners.

Piss off before I make you flee this thread too.

Uneducated?

I have a LLM from a prestigious Russell Group university yaa inan gumeed, have you finished elementary school yet? Am sure an old fart like yourself would properly never had attended school at all lol.

And this is an open forum anybody can participate!

Your midgaan langaab clan were always considered Dir by all Somali clans and they are still considered Dir hence why under the 4.5 forumala they come under Dir.

Never mind who considers what that is irrelevant, you consider yourself an Arab while most Isaaq believe Daarood are Oromo offshoot.

So where are the" sources" you claimed?

Uneducated?

I have a LLM from a prestigious Russell Group university yaa inan gumeed, have you finished elementary school yet? Am sure an old fart like yourself would properly never had attended school at all lol.

And this is an open forum anybody can participate!

Your midgaan langaab clan were always considered Dir by all Somali clans and they are still considered Dir hence why under the 4.5 forumala they come under Dir.

You dont.

You are a baseborn uneducated qurjiile midgan, whose entire family and circle of friends are property of Isaaq. If you actually had a half-decent education you would not be embarrassed in every single thread you take part in.

Do you never tire of getting humiliated?

Piss off yaa midgan, your owners are having discussion.

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Ku quuso qudhaanjoy. Hooyadood anakaa malyuun jeer wasna wixii aan intaa midna meel kasoo gelin. Ama buuqa ama mudaharaada .

Proud to be , Reer daahir, HJ, Isaaq,Dir, Irir, Samaale,Aji

Ku quuso qudhaanjoy. Hooyadood anakaa malyuun jeer wasna wixii aan intaa midna meel kasoo gelin. Ama buuqa ama mudaharaada .

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