What kind of federal government does Somalia need?

[Talo alle udaa]

I have been closely following what the current feds are doing in central Somalia.

I initially saw integration of various tribal militias into the SNA which I saw a significant step forward.

Fast forward now I’m seeing local police being “incorporated into national police” as well as security of local cities (see Dhusamareeb Sntv clip) now being guaranteed by the “federal government”.

This Has the hallmarks of a top down micromanagement from afar.

I’m not entirely sure why Galmudug cannot run its own local police and secure its cities.

[Caytame]

incorporating clan militias into the SNA will eventually backfire, that's a fact. You can't expect men who were loyal to qabiil yesterday, to brush that aside entirely and pledge full loyalty to the country instead. What happened to the old ways of merit based recruitment of soldiers throughout the country?

fyi, your question should be what kind of federalism does the current government want?

I say this because Somalis, people in Jubaland, Koonfur galbeed, Puntland, Hirshabeele and Galmudug have all subscribed to the same federalism and all agree on the basic tenants it entails. It's obvious what type of federalism they want, so the only remaining question is what do farmaajo and co want?

You cant really call it federalism if the president can rig elections in the aforementioned regions, resulting a favorable advantage.

[theyuusuf143]

There is no Somalia. Both puntland and jubaland wants to maintain their autonomy , and they are not willing to pay one cent to Mogadishu . Eventually those in Mogadishu Will do the same and refuse to pay tax to the feds. Use your common sense , why would a hutu pay Tax to the feds when We don't . Most importantly why a hutu will accept to keep paying the salaries of all feds when Somalis don't share common treasury.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Somalia waxay u baahan tahay strong central goverment.. Madaxweyne iyo raiisal wasaare awood baddan.. xaqiiqdiina sidaa ayey ku socotaa,,, Dawlada Somalia waa ay sii xoogeysaneysaa. ciidamada waa sii xoogeysanayaan. bunaaniland iyo jubaland waa in loo helaa madaxweynayaal cusub.. dawlada ka danbeeysa farmaajo waxay noqon doonaa dawlad leh awood la taaban karo xaqiiqdii..

dawlada waxa ugu horeeya ay hadda qasab tahay inay sameeyo. waa in wadanka laga buriyo Warlord Axmed madoobe.. sidoo kale mustaqbalka Waa in madaxda maamul goboleedyada aan loogu yeerin erayga( madaxweyne).. waa in loogu yeeraa ()maamulaha)
Maamulaha galmudug. maamulaha buntiland. Maamulaha Hirshabeele.. Maamulaha koonfurgalbeed iyo Maamulaha jubbaland.. erayga madaxweyne waa inuu ahaadaa mid kaliya. Somalia lahaataa single madaxweyne..

[AbdiWahab252]

Somalia waxay u baahan tahay strong central goverment.. Madaxweyne iyo raiisal wasaare awood baddan.. xaqiiqdiina sidaa ayey ku socotaa,,, Dawlada Somalia waa ay sii xoogeysaneysaa. ciidamada waa sii xoogeysanayaan. bunaaniland iyo jubaland waa in loo helaa madaxweynayaal cusub.. dawlada ka danbeeysa farmaajo waxay noqon doonaa dawlad leh awood la taaban karo xaqiiqdii..

dawlada waxa ugu horeeya ay hadda qasab tahay inay sameeyo. waa in wadanka laga buriyo Warlord Axmed madoobe.. sidoo kale mustaqbalka Waa in madaxda maamul goboleedyada aan loogu yeerin erayga( madaxweyne).. waa in loogu yeeraa ()maamulaha)
Maamulaha galmudug. maamulaha buntiland. Maamulaha Hirshabeele.. Maamulaha koonfurgalbeed iyo Maamulaha jubbaland.. erayga madaxweyne waa inuu ahaadaa mid kaliya. Somalia lahaataa single madaxweyne..

federalism wa cancer

[Django]

Somalia waxay u baahan tahay strong central goverment.. Madaxweyne iyo raiisal wasaare awood baddan.. xaqiiqdiina sidaa ayey ku socotaa,,, Dawlada Somalia waa ay sii xoogeysaneysaa. ciidamada waa sii xoogeysanayaan. bunaaniland iyo jubaland waa in loo helaa madaxweynayaal cusub.. dawlada ka danbeeysa farmaajo waxay noqon doonaa dawlad leh awood la taaban karo xaqiiqdii..

dawlada waxa ugu horeeya ay hadda qasab tahay inay sameeyo. waa in wadanka laga buriyo Warlord Axmed madoobe.. sidoo kale mustaqbalka Waa in madaxda maamul goboleedyada aan loogu yeerin erayga( madaxweyne).. waa in loogu yeeraa ()maamulaha)
Maamulaha galmudug. maamulaha buntiland. Maamulaha Hirshabeele.. Maamulaha koonfurgalbeed iyo Maamulaha jubbaland.. erayga madaxweyne waa inuu ahaadaa mid kaliya. Somalia lahaataa single madaxweyne..

federalism wa cancer

Bunch of hypocrites.

USC supporters claimming they love. Centralism which in reality is anarchy.
Xaemaajo rules nothing in Xamar.
He is guarded by Uganda against AS and your kinds.

[AbdiWahab252]

Federalism doesn’t work. If it did Jubbaland, galmudug, KG and HS would have advanced to control most of their territory.

[paperino]

Somalia doesn't need a federalism where each federal state has its own president, ministers, parliament, army, defense, foreign affairs, immigration, currency, etc. No such federalism exist in any other country.

[Django]

Federalism doesn’t work. If it did Jubbaland, galmudug, KG and HS would have advanced to control most of their territory.

Because it was the central government that has been frustating efforts for it to come alive.
Xassan sheikh fought JL his entire tenure.
He created the corrupt Konfur galbeed and Galmudug was also created by Xassan sheikh.

[Django]

Somalia doesn't need a federalism where each federal state has its own president, ministers, parliament, army, defense, foreign affairs, immigration, currency, etc. No such federalism exist in any other country.

People trust federalsm more than centralism because PL and SL are a success story while JL has been fighting its existance from day one against Villa Ugandishu.

How can you be pro centralism when you have foreign forces guarding Villa Somalia for more than 10 years.you want to call this joke soveregnity or what?

[bashe19]

Federalism doesn’t work. If it did Jubbaland, galmudug, KG and HS would have advanced to control most of their territory.

Because it was the central government that has been frustating efforts for it to come alive.
Xassan sheikh fought JL his entire tenure.
He created the corrupt Konfur galbeed and Galmudug was also created by Xassan sheikh.

Fadaraalka aad dooneyso ma in Axmaq madoobe odeygii yidhaa ku dooranmayo uu xabsi u taxaabaa, dabadhilif Keenyana u ahaado, ma kaasa fadaralka aad dooneyso nacas fowqal nacas.

Faradaal waa inuu noqdaa hogaamiyaal gobol, caafimaadka, Iskoolada, ganacsiga, beeraha iyo xoolaha iyo maamulkooda u dadejiya degmooyinka iyo tuulooyinka, isla markaana laga maamulo dowlada dhexe kootarool iyo kormeerna lagu hayo, aana dabadhilif u ahaan karin wadan aan Soomaliya ahayn sxb waa kaa faderalka dunidu taqaan.

[Django]

Federalism doesn’t work. If it did Jubbaland, galmudug, KG and HS would have advanced to control most of their territory.

Because it was the central government that has been frustating efforts for it to come alive.
Xassan sheikh fought JL his entire tenure.
He created the corrupt Konfur galbeed and Galmudug was also created by Xassan sheikh.

Fadaraalka aad dooneyso ma in Axmaq madoobe odeygii yidhaa ku dooranmayo uu xabsi u taxaabaa, dabadhilif Keenyana u ahaado, ma kaasa fadaralka aad dooneyso nacas fowqal nacas.

Faradaal waa inuu noqdaa hogaamiyaal gobol, caafimaadka, Iskoolada, ganacsiga, beeraha iyo xoolaha iyo maamulkooda u dadejiya degmooyinka iyo tuulooyinka, isla markaana laga maamulo dowlada dhexe kootarool iyo kormeerna lagu hayo, aana dabadhilif u ahaan karin wadan aan Soomaliya ahayn sxb waa kaa faderalka dunidu taqaan.

Mooriyan muxu dawldanimo ka garanaya.

So adhigu ma aheyn kii mooriyanka baree hiraale tageresey?

9 sano buu kismaayo heystey wax shabaab majirin ee mad ii shegi karta waxaad uu hormari weyden sidhi PL isla wakhtigas bala as asey.

Axmed madhoobe 7 saano uu heystey AS,Dawlada dhexe iyo shifto ilkoyar ba isbaaro udigatey ee muxu mamula marwalba horumarka idhinka caqabad ku aha.

Dawladnimada ad Villa Somalia kufaneysid Cabdilahi yusuf aun ba sameye adhigo wakhtiga mooriyaan ka aha Kismaayo oo isbaaro ku taaley ee maxa sheegi.

[theyuusuf143]

Federalism doesn’t work. If it did Jubbaland, galmudug, KG and HS would have advanced to control most of their territory.

Because it was the central government that has been frustating efforts for it to come alive.
Xassan sheikh fought JL his entire tenure.
He created the corrupt Konfur galbeed and Galmudug was also created by Xassan sheikh.

Fadaraalka aad dooneyso ma in Axmaq madoobe odeygii yidhaa ku dooranmayo uu xabsi u taxaabaa, dabadhilif Keenyana u ahaado, ma kaasa fadaralka aad dooneyso nacas fowqal nacas.

Faradaal waa inuu noqdaa hogaamiyaal gobol, caafimaadka, Iskoolada, ganacsiga, beeraha iyo xoolaha iyo maamulkooda u dadejiya degmooyinka iyo tuulooyinka, isla markaana laga maamulo dowlada dhexe kootarool iyo kormeerna lagu hayo, aana dabadhilif u ahaan karin wadan aan Soomaliya ahayn sxb waa kaa faderalka dunidu taqaan.

Adeer kaaba ugaandhiis baa ilaaliya , heer kuu dabadhilif nimo ka gaadhay xitaa yuweri mosevini markuu Somalia caayo (sanad kasta dhawr mar buu caaya) farmaajo goraduu laalaadiya isaga iyo Kuwaiti ga uu meesha keenayba. Hal erey kuma celiyan musevni . Waxa axmed madoobe Kenyan kiisa ku tusay ee ugaandhiis ka adeerka musqusha geeya kaa indha saabay waa qabyaalada.

[bashe19]

@patriot, Kiiska hayskawaalin meeshan Fadaral ayaa lagu qeexayey sow mafahantid, Bare iyo Axmaq madoobe laba xili oo kala duwan bay maamuleen, midna anarchi waqtigeed bu joogay midna waqti dowlad iyo hayado ayuu maamulay, saaso ay tahay Barre Kismaayo, jilib, Buaale Xagar, Saakow, Badhaahe ilaa baraawe buu xukumayeu, Axmaq madoobe Kismaayo dhinacna uma dhaafi karo muxuu xukumaa?
Back to topic,;
Fadaraal dadka la musaafirimayo, Kenya aabaha looqadayo Muqdisha laga cararayo, imaarad baan u qaraaba doonaneynaa la leeyahay, saraakisha la leeyahay garoob ka kamaso degikadhaan, Odayaasha hal xildhibaan banso xulaynaa xabsi lootaxaanayo FADARAALKA ADUUNKA MEESHU KAJIRO KEEN XAGUU KA SHAQEEYAA?

[Django]

@patriot, Kiiska hayskawaalin meeshan Fadaral ayaa lagu qeexayey sow mafahantid, Bare iyo Axmaq madoobe laba xili oo kala duwan bay maamuleen, midna anarchi waqtigeed bu joogay midna waqti dowlad iyo hayado ayuu maamulay, saaso ay tahay Barre Kismaayo, jilib, Buaale Xagar, Saakow, Badhaahe ilaa baraawe buu xukumayeu, Axmaq madoobe Kismaayo dhinacna uma dhaafi karo muxuu xukumaa?
Back to topic,;
Fadaraal dadka la musaafirimayo, Kenya aabaha looqadayo Muqdisha laga cararayo, imaarad baan u qaraaba doonaneynaa la leeyahay, saraakisha la leeyahay garoob ka kamaso degikadhaan, Odayaasha hal xildhibaan banso xulaynaa xabsi lootaxaanayo FADARAALKA ADUUNKA MEESHU KAJIRO KEEN XAGUU KA SHAQEEYAA?
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