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Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:28 am
by DaroorMan
i think banadir region should be part of hiirshabelle since it cannot be its own state as two or more (pre-1991) regions must make up a member federal state but at the same time they should not be directly be ruled by the corrupt and dysfunctional federal govt for obvious reasons
which leaves being part of hiirshabelle regional state and besides banadir and middle shabelle are both related clan wise
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:39 am
by original dervish
Don't be ridiculous.....Banadir is the single most populous region anywhere on the peninsula.
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:42 am
by DaroorMan
but the constitution says two or more regions that existed pre war make up a state so a so called banadir state is a non-starter
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:42 am
by Mk777
i think banadir region should be part of hiirshabelle since it cannot be its own state as two or more (pre-1991) regions must make up a member federal state but at the same time they should not be directly be ruled by the corrupt and dysfunctional federal govt for obvious reasons
which leaves being part of hiirshabelle regional state and besides banadir and middle shabelle are both related clan wise
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:47 am
by DaroorMan
i think banadir region should be part of hiirshabelle since it cannot be its own state as two or more (pre-1991) regions must make up a member federal state but at the same time they should not be directly be ruled by the corrupt and dysfunctional federal govt for obvious reasons
which leaves being part of hiirshabelle regional state and besides banadir and middle shabelle are both related clan wise
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
galmudug should take all of mudug region by force if necessary, so called puntland should be confined to only nugaal and bari.
either the constitution is amended so that each of the old pre-1991 regions including banadir can stand alone or banadir would have to join an existing member federal state such as hiirshabelle
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:48 am
by theyuusuf143
First benaadir state should be created. Then the hutu states will decide to join together or not. Number one priority is benaadir to have it's own elected governor. And the elected council should demand more autonomy In the areas of security and finance.
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:50 am
by DaroorMan
banadir must follow the law, they cannot complain against the awful federal government only to themselves break the constitution
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:52 am
by original dervish
The constitution is only provisional.....not set in stone.
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:53 am
by theyuusuf143
i think banadir region should be part of hiirshabelle since it cannot be its own state as two or more (pre-1991) regions must make up a member federal state but at the same time they should not be directly be ruled by the corrupt and dysfunctional federal govt for obvious reasons
which leaves being part of hiirshabelle regional state and besides banadir and middle shabelle are both related clan wise
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
Yes by law galmudug is two States. Galguduud and mudug. The occupied nothern mudug is part and parcel of galmudug .
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:55 am
by Mk777
i think banadir region should be part of hiirshabelle since it cannot be its own state as two or more (pre-1991) regions must make up a member federal state but at the same time they should not be directly be ruled by the corrupt and dysfunctional federal govt for obvious reasons
which leaves being part of hiirshabelle regional state and besides banadir and middle shabelle are both related clan wise
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
galmudug should take all of mudug region by force if necessary, so called puntland should be confined to only nugaal and bari.
either the constitution is amended so that each of the old pre-1991 regions including banadir can stand alone or banadir would have to join an existing member federal state such as hiirshabelle
That aqli is why our country is in the state it is. Using force doesn’t resolve anything and it’s the reason why we are all qaxooti in all corners of the globe. my opinion is some of these federal states that are not homogenous (inhabited by 1 clan) will not work in the long term.
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:59 am
by DaroorMan
ideally somalia when recovered would do the following
1. abolish federalism for centralism but with some devolution of power/resources to the regions
2. somalia be divided into 13 quite weak regions ruled by the central govt instead of 5 all powerful regionalised states thats fully autonomous
3. bosaso becomes the new capital city of somalia while kismayo becomes like Sydney the financial hub that hosts the central bank
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:08 pm
by theyuusuf143
ideally somalia when recovered would do the following
1. abolish federalism for centralism but with some devolution of power/resources to the regions
2. somalia be divided into 13 quite weak regions ruled by the central govt instead of 5 all powerful regionalised states thats fully autonomous
3. bosaso becomes the new capital city of somalia while kismayo becomes like Sydney the financial hub that hosts the central bank
Lool you must be dreaming if you think boosaso is going to be the capital of Somalia. Horta yaaba u ogol.
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:14 pm
by DaroorMan
have you ever been to bosaso sxb? its very nice and can grow and develop further, plus its cosmopolitan clan wise and is the main coastal city in the only maamul goboleed in somalia that's peaceful
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:03 pm
by theyuusuf143
have you ever been to bosaso sxb? its very nice and can grow and develop further, plus its cosmopolitan clan wise and is the main coastal city in the only maamul goboleed in somalia that's peaceful
It couldn't even be the capital of puntland because of it's remote location. And who said to you different clans live there. It's is exclusive for small MJ clans .
Re: Banadir State, federal territory or part of Hiirshabelle
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:05 pm
by Turbulence
There is an evil agenda behind the push for Banadir state. Banadir should be and should always remain a federal territory. A good portion of young and middle aged Somalis were born and raised there.