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Hate them or Love but you got to Respect Them!

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Hate them or Love but you got to Respect Them!

Postby SultanOrder » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:03 pm

I may not support N&N's every move and policy. I may at times heavily criticize them for their failures. But one thing is for sure, given what little resources and power they have, they know how to exercise it.

-From the Gulf Countries Fiasco, they chose to remain neutral despite heavy pressure from UAE and Saudi's. Other governments would have succumbed easily. Relations are back to normal with Saudi's, and N&N have an even more dependable ally in Qatar. Respect Earned.

-Abdishakur was being funded by UAE to bribe parliament against N&N. Not only was the money seized, he hasn't been in Mogadishu since. Respect Earned

-UN Special Representative acted like N&N were still in TFG and thought he could demand this and that from the government as a colonial governor. He was told he was person non grata, and the Secretary General replaced him. There should have been an investigation into the deaths. However, Respect Earned.

-Jawaari was there for too long and he wasn't with the program, he was told to leave and was soon removed. Respect Earned.

-Galmudug was tamed after Xaaf being the biggest mouth. Respect Earned.

-Puntland thought itself equal with the Federal Government, who puts weight to what Deni says? Respect Earned.

-HSM made an illegal deal with Somaliland regarding the Airspace issue. N&N said forget about it, enjoy Berbera while you still have it. Respect Earned

-Ahmed Madoobe did what he did in 2012 elections, N&N said lets see who comes to your inauguration, it's been canceled for the time being. Keep in my I support Ahmed madoobe. But, Respect Earned.

-Kenya tried to pressure Somalia by every means (AU, kicking out the ambassador, ICJ, throwing tantrums) to have a private settlement regarding the Marine dispute, but they failed miserably. Respect Earned.



I can not nor will I ever agree with every move and decision my government makes. In fact they deserve heavy criticism for the areas they are failing in. But as a Somali Patriot who has seen our pitiful government come from nothing more than a paper government, to something that is growing bigger and bigger, I can't help but be proud when they show they have power. This has been coming for a long, From Abdiqasim, to Abdullahi Yusuf, to Sheikh Sharif, to Hassan Sheikh, to Farmaajo, to whomever comes next. They all have to be thanked for their part. Our government is becoming a force to be reckon with both inside and outside of the country.

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Re: Hate them or Love but you got to Respect Them!

Postby Xildiiid » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:29 pm

It was actually Hassan Dameers paper government that backtracked from the airspace agreement because of greed not “territorial integrity” as Walaweyns/Faqash love to claim. The current paper government chose to remain on the path taken by Dameer.

LOL @ enjoy Berbera while you still have it. :pac: :dead:

When is your pedophile uncle Xaarmaajo going to liberate Berbera from Iidoor?

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Postby Murax » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:32 pm

Sultan Order,

This Gov did have major gaffes sure. That said people here don’t have the mindset of gaal dil gartiisa sii. This Gov hate it or love it has acted with more force and authority than any Gov since Siyaad Barre AUN. To anyone who wants to cry and moan about ‘Authoritarian’ they don’t understand Somalis respect alpha dominance type mentality not passive, timid behavior.

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Re: Hate them or Love but you got to Respect Them!

Postby Django » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:42 pm

When Marexan is a mooriyaan he should be treated like SAyid.

If he is a dictator he should be treated like Amirul muminin.

When he kills its Xalaal.

When the tables are turned then its against International rules and we have been picked on and we have been massacred.

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Postby SultanOrder » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:35 pm

When Marexan is a mooriyaan he should be treated like SAyid.

If he is a dictator he should be treated like Amirul muminin.

When he kills its Xalaal.

When the tables are turned then its against International rules and we have been picked on and we have been massacred.
Meesha qabil maxaa usoo galinaysa? Farmaajo iyo Khayre iyo teamkooda is not qabil enterprise. Yaab badana! What they accomplish today will be a benefit to the next administration.


Murax, when people moan about Authoritarianism then what they are saying is this government has got teeth. They are in fact recognizing that we have a stronger government. Besides people will never stop yelling authoritarianism, look at the US. Lol


Xildiid, if that is the case then y’all wouldn’t be screaming Farmaajo backed out at the top of your lungs. Besides, it was under this administration that control was brought back to Mogadishu.

As for Berbera, it will be another president that will bring it back but I sure hope he is Marexaan, that would be the cherry on top.

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:01 pm

They are making good progress in all areas except for the security situation in Xamar. I do like how they are smarter than their opposition.

But as they say, “In a blind world, the man with one eye is King”

All hail King Farmaajo!

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Postby Murax » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:15 pm

They are making good progress in all areas except for the security situation in Xamar. I do like how they are smarter than their opposition.

But as they say, “In a blind world, the man with one eye is King”

All hail King Farmaajo!
The security situation has been a unmitigated disaster. Nobody will deny that.

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Postby SultanOrder » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:43 am

They are making good progress in all areas except for the security situation in Xamar. I do like how they are smarter than their opposition.

But as they say, “In a blind world, the man with one eye is King”

All hail King Farmaajo!
Absolutely! If they could only get security in Xamar. That's a tall order for anyone, which means the only way is to defeat Alshabab. I don't security will ever improve before then.

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Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:18 am

They are making good progress in all areas except for the security situation in Xamar. I do like how they are smarter than their opposition.

But as they say, “In a blind world, the man with one eye is King”

All hail King Farmaajo!
Absolutely! If they could only get security in Xamar. That's a tall order for anyone, which means the only way is to defeat Alshabab. I don't security will ever improve before then.
Having big stone road blocks in Xamar is to prevent the sleeper cells of AS in Xamar from doing VBIED attacks in the city, some sponsored by the mucarad and the shady businessmen of Suuqa Bakara. Also, all the SNA coordinated capture of rural areas of Lower Shabelle is to prevent AS from having supply routes to to attack the center from the periphery. Same with the Jubboyinka. Ironically that's the main reason that Farmaajo & co. want to have tighter control of the southern provinces to coordinate with SNA to clean AS from the rural areas. Mind you, they have a whole province of Middle Jubba which has a coastline to get supplies to do their dumb shit.


But all in all. N&N will have the south in check in the next 14 months. The after the elections Puntland and Somaliland will be pressured to join the new Federal Republic of Somalia.

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Postby Xildiiid » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:52 pm


Xildiid, if that is the case then y’all wouldn’t be screaming Farmaajo backed out at the top of your lungs. Besides, it was under this administration that control was brought back to Mogadishu.

As for Berbera, it will be another president that will bring it back but I sure hope he is Marexaan, that would be the cherry on top.
SL criticized the previous paper government lead by xaaji Dameer and the process to move the airspace control centers to Hargeisa and Mogadishu began during his tenure but he backed out because of greed not principle.

Berbera will never return because it doesn’t fall under the jurisdiction of failed state Zoomalia nor is Zoomalia capable of capturing Berbera militarily.

So tell me Boon, how is it going to happen?

Once we regain our long lost sovereignty, Zoomalia will lose the geopolitical card (Bab el Mandeb/Red Sea) and the AMISOM protectorate will be reduced to an irrelevant state.

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Postby Voltage » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:00 pm


Xildiid, if that is the case then y’all wouldn’t be screaming Farmaajo backed out at the top of your lungs. Besides, it was under this administration that control was brought back to Mogadishu.

As for Berbera, it will be another president that will bring it back but I sure hope he is Marexaan, that would be the cherry on top.
SL criticized the previous paper government lead by xaaji Dameer and the process to move the airspace control centers to Hargeisa and Mogadishu began during his tenure but he backed out because of greed not principle.

Berbera will never return because it doesn’t fall under the jurisdiction of failed state Zoomalia nor is Zoomalia capable of capturing Berbera militarily.

So tell me Boon, how is it going to happen?

Once we regain our long lost sovereignty Zoomalia will lose the geopolitical card (Bab el Mandeb/Red Sea) and will be reduced to an irrelevant state!
There are more important things to the Somali governmrnt than Berbera right now so do sit down somewhere and wait your turn. Kismaayo is a bigger isssue than the entire Somaliland problem so like I said, hang tight.

I's always the little dogs that bark the loudest. What do you have to do with Berbera as a Habar Jeclo? You aren't even Ciise Muuse. It's like Marehan being up in arms about what the Somali gov has to say about Garowe or Abgaal about Hobyo. Isaaqu laangaabsanaa

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Postby Xildiiid » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:26 pm


Xildiid, if that is the case then y’all wouldn’t be screaming Farmaajo backed out at the top of your lungs. Besides, it was under this administration that control was brought back to Mogadishu.

As for Berbera, it will be another president that will bring it back but I sure hope he is Marexaan, that would be the cherry on top.
SL criticized the previous paper government lead by xaaji Dameer and the process to move the airspace control centers to Hargeisa and Mogadishu began during his tenure but he backed out because of greed not principle.

Berbera will never return because it doesn’t fall under the jurisdiction of failed state Zoomalia nor is Zoomalia capable of capturing Berbera militarily.

So tell me Boon, how is it going to happen?

Once we regain our long lost sovereignty Zoomalia will lose the geopolitical card (Bab el Mandeb/Red Sea) and will be reduced to an irrelevant state!
There are more important things to the Somali governmrnt than Berbera right now so do sit down somewhere and wait your turn. Kismaayo is a bigger isssue than the entire Somaliland problem so like I said, hang tight.

I's always the little dogs that bark the loudest. What do you have to do with Berbera as a Habar Jeclo? You aren't even Ciise Muuse. It's like Marehan being up in arms about what the Somali gov has to say about Garowe or Abgaal about Hobyo. Isaaqu laangaabsanaa
Boon are you still crying?

Berbera has 1000000x the geopolitical value of Kismaayo.
Kismaayo might be important to your irrelevant, non indigenous clan and Xarmaajo! Don’t conflate!

There is no ‘Somali Government’ and Zoomalia does not represent the Somali ethnic group.

Maybe you should learn clan geography. HJ inhabit Berbera and Sahil region. The deputy mayor of Berbera is HJ.
Unlike your landlocked clan we have the longest coast in Somaliland starting from eastern Berbera to Xiis.

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Postby Voltage » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:32 pm



SL criticized the previous paper government lead by xaaji Dameer and the process to move the airspace control centers to Hargeisa and Mogadishu began during his tenure but he backed out because of greed not principle.

Berbera will never return because it doesn’t fall under the jurisdiction of failed state Zoomalia nor is Zoomalia capable of capturing Berbera militarily.

So tell me Boon, how is it going to happen?

Once we regain our long lost sovereignty Zoomalia will lose the geopolitical card (Bab el Mandeb/Red Sea) and will be reduced to an irrelevant state!
There are more important things to the Somali governmrnt than Berbera right now so do sit down somewhere and wait your turn. Kismaayo is a bigger isssue than the entire Somaliland problem so like I said, hang tight.

I's always the little dogs that bark the loudest. What do you have to do with Berbera as a Habar Jeclo? You aren't even Ciise Muuse. It's like Marehan being up in arms about what the Somali gov has to say about Garowe or Abgaal about Hobyo. Isaaqu laangaabsanaa
Boon are you still crying?

Berbera has 1000000x the geopolitical value of Kismaayo.
Kismaayo might be important to your irrelevant, non indigenous clan and Xarmaajo! Don’t conflate!

There is no ‘Somali Government’ and Zoomalia does not represent the Somali ethnic group.

Maybe you should learn clan geography. HJ inhabit Berbera and Sahil region. The deputy mayor of Berbera is HJ.
Unlike your landlocked clan we have the longest coast in Somaliland starting from eastern Berbera to Xiis.

Abti, ssshhh. Ok? Taada sug. Wa billabi towfiq.

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Postby sahal80 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:46 pm

the only thing new is president and pm working together intakale dictatorship maaha wax lagu faano tan kale meesha waxaa ka baxay tigree nothing has to do with this govt. tigree were telling even hassan sheikh to appoint hiiraan governor abdifatah. he said in one hotel "do you think guys i was appointed by hassan sheekh and goodah who was interior minister back then"

sharif hassan gone bc of the change in ethiopia, ahlussuna gone bc of the chsnge in ethiopia, jawari gone bc of the change in ethiopia. ethiopia waxeey diiday inay madaxwaynaha PL la kulanto what do you think of these ethiopia amisom baked "presidents"

if they have power let them remove ahmed madobe who doesnt depend on ethiopia.

lastly their unity is breaking up secretly. remember i said long time ago that uk is pro wadahadal with madoobe? now uk asks kenya and somalia to settle the maritime issue in order to settle the JL issue with kenya. uk sees the regions as stakeholders from tribal and regional perspect even Farmaajo who is current prez is Dblock they still think its like under hassan sh following the old ethiopian strategy and kenya. its not Farmaajo who will agree to settle it between the two countries rather Kheyre he already expressed it to these countries like uk. in exchange for what? Kheyre wants a political backing in the next elections. the guy who will replace ahmed madoobe if such deal was reached with kenya will be allied with kheyre who already has the HAG regions. with kenya Support madoobe may accept organizing new elections they way xaaf did and his succesor will be allied with kheyre who thinks for JL he needs kenya and this is how ahmed madobe wants to get his revange from farmaajo. notice farmaajo always talks about the court but never kheyre? but sheekadaan madhowa it will take is jiidjiid dheer maybe till next summer and before the villa somalia elections. what they now trying is to postpone the court till next summer in order to give a chance....

this govt currently runs the airspace they have regulations like any other country. all the airplanes now follow these regulations including the UAE ones they have to let them now before they takeoff. laakiin abuse haduu dhaco ayadoon somalia heshiin the former caretaker may take back. abdiqasimba waa laga ceshtey. "in 2002, the newly formed Transitional National Government (TNG) briefly reassumed control of Somalia's airspace with the re-establishment of the Somali Civil Aviation Authority by the Ministry of Air and Land Transport" maadama meelo qaar ah ay dawlado sheeganayeen.



https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-10 ... e-dispute/

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Postby Voltage » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:21 pm

Sahal-

Ina adeer, let me tell you something that I hope dispels you of this UK thing iyo whatever else odayaasha reer miyiga aad la sheekeysatid told you.

The first time you said Farmaajo is pushing PM to no confidence vote FOUR MONTHS after government formed, there is something I hinted that bears repeating now.

Farmaajo had a meeting with some of his chief Marehan advisors (I won't give any names to out them but if you have ANY Villa Somalia xog one of them is his chief security advisor who is Marehan/reer Diini/reer Siyaad and Col from the UK/Leicester) who called an emergency meeting with him when it came out he was naming Kheyre without asking them for advice.

They all came in flustered saying how can you do this, aaway Abgaal, aaway Habar Gidir, ma inagaa nagu diraysaa dadkaan,etc etc etc.

Farmaajo laughed and said I have had 6 (SIX) years to think about this issue. Not only will Hawiye accept this but there will not be a SINGLE clash between the PM and I or the Parliament and I.

It's not only the PM, aaway Parliament baqbaqlayn jirtay. You do not understand xarashka la ciyaaray here.

Even two brothers can disagree and can even get into a fight especially after years, but Kheyre's loyalty to Farmaajo is like iron. This is what you did not understand in the 3 times (THREE TIMES) you predicted no confidence vote stuff. Similarly Farmaajo has absolutely taken Parliament by the horns (if it is a bull) and made them understand they are one entity. I will not yet reveal how this happened but I have more than once remarked on Khadiijo who is well known to have played khat carrier since CARTA and she has a role in this.

So if you are surprised we are in year 3, and that it is YOU who is saying dawladaan waa HAL, we are not.

Similarly which ever nation that gets UN Special Rep is absolutely important in terms of Somalia influence and it is primarily how UK got it's issues advanced in Somalia. There is a very deliberate reason the UNSR is an American, a recommendation actively forwarded by Farmaajo including the NAME of SR to break the influence of UK.

There are things buugaag laga qori doono but if you now celebrate years into Farmaajo's gov that this is the most scandal-free and most united gov, the buck stops at the top. Like Farmaajo himself said, he had 6 years to think this over.


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