Dayactirka astaamaha wadanka Sayidka is back soon in Xamar

[AbdiWahab252]

Voltage

Why did Italy fight to retain its African colonies claiming that giving them indepedence would harm the interests of the thousands of Italian settlers in those territories? Why did Abdullahi Issa spend years in NY advocating for Italian Somaliland independence dueling with Italian Count Sforza who advocated for keep Eritrea, Libya and Somalia. Sforza and the postwar Italian government worked hard to deport Abdullahi Issa painting him and the SYL as Communists. Fortunately the NAACP lobbied Secretary of State Dulles not to do so.

Abdullahi Issa brought Italian Somaliland to independence through his work in the SYL. He created the first government for Italian Somaliland that prepares the nation for independence. To date there has not been one iota of recognition of his work. To add insult to injury he died overseas as an exile who was even denied renewal of his Somali passport by MSB. The very Italians he fought against gave him a temporary travel document to stay in Italy. The same MSB government that tried to take control of his funeral arrangements but Abdullahi Issa has already saved his funeral expenses.

Abdullahi Issa was our best and that is how he was treated. So we had to give you Caydiid in return

[Khalid Ali]

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Why did Italy fight to retain its African colonies claiming that giving them indepedence would harm the interests of the thousands of Italian settlers in those territories? Why did Abdullahi Issa spend years in NY advocating for Italian Somaliland independence dueling with Italian Count Sforza who advocated for keep Eritrea, Libya and Somalia. Sforza and the postwar Italian government worked hard to deport Abdullahi Issa painting him and the SYL as Communists. Fortunately the NAACP lobbied Secretary of State Dulles not to do so.

Abdullahi Issa brought Italian Somaliland to independence through his work in the SYL. He created the first government for Italian Somaliland that prepares the nation for independence. To date there has not been one iota of recognition of his work. To add insult to injury he died overseas as an exile who was even denied renewal of his Somali passport by MSB. The very Italians he fought against gave him a temporary travel document to stay in Italy. The same MSB government that tried to take control of his funeral arrangements but Abdullahi Issa has already saved his funeral expenses.

Abdullahi Issa was our best and that is how he was treated. So we had to give you Caydiid in return

Good post governor sacad should have got a statue in the center of xamar event hough statues are haram . Instead of fictional characters. Even though voltage is. Fan of US femenism and favor of Xaawo taako.

[Voltage]

Abdiwahab-

That's fake.

You are a grown man, not habar reer baadiye ah.

Aftet defeat of Axis, Italy's colonies were taken over by UN Security Council. After the dust settled, the UN deliberated on the issue in 1950.

1. Libya was deemed ready for independence under the Sanusi King and granted Independence in 1951.

2. Eritrea was federated with Ethiopia in 1952.

3. Somalia was not deemed ready and a strict 10 year timetable was set to get it ready. Italy was brought back to administer the Trust on behalf of the UN given the history. Even the formation of SYL was part of this exercise in teaching Somalis about party politics for poat-independence.

In fact Abdiwahab the Somalia 10 year decision cause the British themselves to unilaterally do the same for their colonies. That's why the majority of British Africa received independence in and around 1960.

Sxb this is 2019 where we have access to internal un and colonial records

Even the 1956 elections that saw Abdullahi Ciise be colonial PM was a strict time table put in place by the UN to show Italy was achieving the terms of tge Trust.

We know exactly why and how Somali mythology built up. They needed a strong liberation struggle story to herald independence.

That's why you have stuff like hebel ate a paper and hebel had a falaar in the back and 13 boys went around the world asking for our independence in the late 50's and all that other quraafaad.

If we were ready the UN would have set us free in 1951 like happened to Libya or Eritrea federated with Ethiopia.

The UN would have loved to cross us off the agenda but as it happens we were not ready and July 1, 1960 ×was picked 10 years in advance to be the day we should be ready.

[Voltage]

Khalid haha it is true, I am a supporter of feminism and all that comes under it including gender equality, minority rights, equal protection, and the innate idea we are all created equal

[AbdiWahab252]

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You stated that SYL had nothing to do with how independent was gotten?

I took issue with that statement. Do you think that without their struggle that independence would be granted? Italy waged a diplomatic offensive to keep their colonies after WW2. Their foreign minister Count Carlo Sforza insisted that these were integral parts of Italy and should fall under Italian trusteeship. He threatened to withhold Italy’s participation in NATO if they were not allowed to regain their African colonies. The NAACP and SYL strongly advocated for a similar independence time frame with with Libya. Unfortunately Somalia became the comprise and Libya went first

Have you read the book “Bourgeois Radicals” by Professor Carol Robinson of Emory University? It gives great insights into the role of the NAACP in the struggle against colonial liberation.

We owe a debt of gratitude to our African American brothers and sisters and the NAACP. Roy Wilkins from Minnesota was a dear friend of the Somali people.

I hope you get a chance to read this book and take off your Kacaanist glasses. Somalia’s history didn’t start in 1969. The revisionist history that the Marxist regime sidelined many figures who contributed to the nations history.

[Voltage]

Abdiwahab,

The Kacaan sold this can of beans in ita pan-Africanist liberation struggle identity. All the Marehan I have talked to are under this false mythology like all other Somalis.

When I ask them how did13 boys go around asking for independence when the same decision that guaranteed Italy coming back set our exact day of independence 10 years in advance....they give me blank stares.

The SYL, Abdullahi Ciise, Aadan Loow, etc all had one importance no one can take away.

They led a huge effort to try to fight for the type of constituent territories the future independent Somali state would be composed of. Abdullahi Ciise himself as head of the Somali delagation to UN led a huge lobbying effort trying to persuade everyone from India to the Dutch to try to wrench Somali Galbeed from Ethiopia. I have his hand penned letters.

But they had nothing to do with when and what time the Somalia Italiana would get independence. They were completely irrelevant to that.

It seems you are the one under clan hubris 1.) Subscribing this in clan terms as if Abdullahi Ciise being an important figure in late 50's gives you clan relavance and 2.) Personalizing this in starkly ridiculous terms as if this is YOUR history and not OUR history.

[Caytame]

Farmaajo is trying to appease ogaden and get the shacab on his side, how else do you explain the timing of this? All but SYL are absame, lol nigga we ain't supporting you again.

Pack your backs adeer.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Farmaajo is trying to appease ogaden and get the shacab on his side, how else do you explain the timing of this? All but SYL are absame, lol nigga we ain't supporting you again.

Pack your backs adeer.

Marehan doesn't need Ogaden. Ogaden needs Marehan. Know your place. Ahmed Gurey is Marehan. Don't get cocky fuckboy

[AbdiWahab252]

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If it were not for the SYL effort, we would have never become an independent nation. No one received independence without advocacy.

Clan hubris? Voltage that’s fresh coming from you


Caytame


Sayid Maxamed I get. How are the rest OG?

[Caytame]

Farmaajo is trying to appease ogaden and get the shacab on his side, how else do you explain the timing of this? All but SYL are absame, lol nigga we ain't supporting you again.

Pack your backs adeer.

Marehan doesn't need Ogaden. Ogaden needs Marehan. Know your place. Ahmed Gurey is Marehan. Don't get cocky fuckboy

Waryaa dont you have another prediction thread to make?

[Caytame]

Abdiwahab: farmaajo is trying to get back the OG support that he lost.

Remember how people in garissa and jubooyinka celebrated the day he was elected?

He fucked it big time, but he seems to have come to terms with it, and is now trying to mend it all.

From hiring Faarax macalins daughter, to bringing back absame statues, but it wont work.

We didn't know qabiil before farmaajo, he taught us qabiil.

Not even then civil war era were we this United.

[Voltage]

Farmaajo is trying to appease ogaden and get the shacab on his side, how else do you explain the timing of this? All but SYL are absame, lol nigga we ain't supporting you again.

Pack your backs adeer.

The question is does the Sayid even belong to you???

Sure by clan he was Ogaden, but the bulk of his soldiers were Dhulbahante and the entirety of his campaign was waged between Laas Caanood and Burco.

There is nothing to "appease" Ogaadeen by since this isn't even primarily your history.

[Voltage]

Voltage

If it were not for the SYL effort, we would have never become an independent nation. No one received independence without advocacy.

Clan hubris? Voltage that’s fresh coming from you


Caytame


Sayid Maxamed I get. How are the rest OG?

That's false.

Actually because of you I will start a topic on this issue to educate these kids. I am a little busy today but wax yar sug.

Idho adakaa ninkaan. Like I told you initially, you aren't habar reer baadiye ah. This is 2019 where we even have access to files and papers long locked up in some UN and colonial file cabinets.

[Canuck2]

Farmaajo is trying to appease ogaden and get the shacab on his side, how else do you explain the timing of this? All but SYL are absame, lol nigga we ain't supporting you again.

Pack your backs adeer.

Hitler nobody is trying to appease Ogaden here, SYL has special place in heart of farmaajo since both of his parents were members in SYL party (yes SYL formed party that lost election during 60s).
www.somaliwave.com

[Canuck2]

Abdiwahab: farmaajo is trying to get back the OG support that he lost.

Remember how people in garissa and jubooyinka celebrated the day he was elected?

He fucked it big time, but he seems to have come to terms with it, and is now trying to mend it all.

From hiring Faarax macalins daughter, to bringing back absame statues, but it wont work.

We didn't know qabiil before farmaajo, he taught us qabiil.

Not even then civil war era were we this United.

Farah Maalim’s daughter was working in villa Somalia since 2013 in fact HSM hired her.
www.somaliwave.com