BREAKING: Pres. Deni INVADES PL parliament as the feud btw Pres. Deni & Speaker Dhoobo HEATS UP!!

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

[AbdiWahab252]

SadeSoulja PL had fomented conflict in other parts of the country. The birds are coming home to roost.


Deni did the right thing and is in line with the past practice of former PL presidents. Abdullahi Yusuf had to slaughter hundreds of dissents to build PL. Faroole had to crush renegades in North Galkacyo who threatened his regime.

Deni can not be a softie like Xaaf who didn’t move swiftly to crush his PM and Speaker of Parliament when they plotted with N&N. He didn’t destroy the Shia who held Dhusamareb. In the end he was ousted for being soft and weak

[SadeSoulja]

AW252

indeed the birds are coming home to roost.....to recover as a nation we must eliminate tribalism and also embrace centralism with the old regions pre-1991 to become a peaceful, developing and democratic country that is united and strong

[Voltage]

SadeSoulja PL had fomented conflict in other parts of the country. The birds are coming home to roost.


Deni did the right thing and is in line with the past practice of former PL presidents. Abdullahi Yusuf had to slaughter hundreds of dissents to build PL. Faroole had to crush renegades in North Galkacyo who threatened his regime.

Deni can not be a softie like Xaaf who didn’t move swiftly to crush his PM and Speaker of Parliament when they plotted with N&N. He didn’t destroy the Shia who held Dhusamareb. In the end he was ousted for being soft and weak

You are a liar. I have no cause nor reason to defend Majeerteen against you (Lord knows they wouldn't), but one of the problems with Habar Gidir is iyagana way is xasdaan dadka kalena way xasdaan.

Sxb Puntland is a nation. They have had 20 years of peace and development and they turned their villages into metropolises. Don't hate.

Abdullahi Yusuf was ready to wage battle against Jaamac Cali Jaamac, but Majeerteen are not like your clan or my clan. They know how to think and strategize and compromise when needs be to win the war.

By that I mean those guys might have been ready to fifht but what did MAJEERTEEN do? What did Jaamac Cali Jaamac's CUSMAAN MAXMUUD do?

Instead of being emotional and fickle, they made a wise decision to support Cabdullahi Yuusuf against their own boy Jaamac Cali Jaamac.

And when Cabdullahi Yusuf go to Boosaaso, Cusmaan Maxmuud told Jaamac to go because they were not going to destroy their homes. They put him on a boat and that was that.

Today Cusmaan Maxmuud sit in Garowe as Puntland president while from a UN estimate, Cusmaan Maxmuud territory between Boosaaso and Qardho has taken in per capita more aid/donor funding than any other part of Somalia.

Waa niman rag ah.

Compare that to your small mindedness. At least Maxamuud Saleebaan already felt their destiny was together. Galmudug is not even a natural state like Puntland.

Ku lahaa Xaaf (read Sacad) attack Mareexaan/Murusade (VP and Speaket of Galmudug) and then attack the Cayr (Ahlu Sunnah).

Nevermind the sheer chutzpah of your statement, do you even recognize unlike Majerteen/Maxamuud Saleebaan, Galmudugians don't even recognize each other as a state or with one destiny. As a result the natural, logical, successful MAJEERTEEN strategy would be more compromise and ingenious local problem solving skills.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Let Majeerteen fend for themselves. Garowe is the den of Babylon. It is where that fat bastard Gaas and that demon Faroole engineered the inclusion of KDF in Kismaayo to spite MX and build a Kabalax state to box in MX to Gedo using the muscle of a foreign army. Fuck Puntland. Let it burn to the ground!

[Voltage]

Let Majeerteen fend for themselves. Garowe is the den of Babylon. It is where that fat bastard Gaas and that demon Faroole engineered the inclusion of KDF in Kismaayo to spite MX and build a Kabalax state to box in MX to Gedo using the muscle of a foreign army. Fuck Puntland. Let it burn to the ground!

You give them too much power bro as if Kenya takes orders from Garowe. The truth is Kenya is heavily dependent on tourism and messing with that is an existential threat to them. The reason we quickly forget the constant Shabaab attacks, kidnappings and bombings from Lamu and Malindi to Mombasa is because Kenya's incursion has largely succeeded in creating the buffer they originally desired.

Ahmed Madoobe just happened to be lucky and hitched along for the ride.

In fact I actually think it is because of the level of success that convinced Kenya it needed a puppet state between Somalia and herself.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Let Majeerteen fend for themselves. Garowe is the den of Babylon. It is where that fat bastard Gaas and that demon Faroole engineered the inclusion of KDF in Kismaayo to spite MX and build a Kabalax state to box in MX to Gedo using the muscle of a foreign army. Fuck Puntland. Let it burn to the ground!

You give them too much power bro as if Kenya takes orders from Garowe. The truth is Kenya is heavily dependent on tourism and messing with that is an existential threat to them. The reason we quickly forget the constant Shabaab attacks, kidnappings and bombings from Lamu and Malindi to Mombasa is because Kenya's incursion has largely succeeded in creating the buffer they originally desired.

Ahmed Madoobe just happened to be lucky and hitched along for the ride.

In fact I actually think it is because of the level of success that convinced Kenya it needed a puppet state between Somalia and herself.

I agree. But at what expense? The bombing and marginalization of our clan? To be divided and have cousins not traveling to their villages due to the political divisions of Puntland by supporting their proxy Madobe? To be at the mercy of KDF strikes on our ppl, land, livestocks? To be denied our rightful place in our state? Who keeps supporting Madobe to spite us? Farmaajo and his wasiirs who are PL natives begged Deni to not go to the puppet state of JL but he choose to go to spite us! He laughed while Farmaajo and our sovereignity was insulted! I have MJ blood flowing in me from multiple generations. But I consider them our number #1 enemy. More than Hawiye or Isaaq. Sorry that's how I feel. I don't care for Daroodnimo. I only care about Sadeism.

[Django]

I thought the reer puntland were civilized . That killing was very unnecessary. Shame on them. I Iike political dramas especially parliament fights. But shooting and killing peaple for real is a major turn off for me. Ahun dadka dhintay.

Saxib where N&N are killings happens.

[UgaaskaBarakaysan]

Puntland is very wary of outside interference which is something I applaud them for, however Warsangeli will have to make a response to this. I heard Puntland VP Karaash brought militias into the city. The former VP for Puntland Camey is one of Farmaajo's top advisors regarding this region and Ali Khalif is still in Xamar I believe. Something will come out of this for sure.

[grandpakhalif]

Let Majeerteen fend for themselves. Garowe is the den of Babylon. It is where that fat bastard Gaas and that demon Faroole engineered the inclusion of KDF in Kismaayo to spite MX and build a Kabalax state to box in MX to Gedo using the muscle of a foreign army. Fuck Puntland. Let it burn to the ground!

You give them too much power bro as if Kenya takes orders from Garowe. The truth is Kenya is heavily dependent on tourism and messing with that is an existential threat to them. The reason we quickly forget the constant Shabaab attacks, kidnappings and bombings from Lamu and Malindi to Mombasa is because Kenya's incursion has largely succeeded in creating the buffer they originally desired.

Ahmed Madoobe just happened to be lucky and hitched along for the ride.

In fact I actually think it is because of the level of success that convinced Kenya it needed a puppet state between Somalia and herself.

I agree. But at what expense? The bombing and marginalization of our clan? To be divided and have cousins not traveling to their villages due to the political divisions of Puntland by supporting their proxy Madobe? To be at the mercy of KDF strikes on our ppl, land, livestocks? To be denied our rightful place in our state? Who keeps supporting Madobe to spite us? Farmaajo and his wasiirs who are PL natives begged Deni to not go to the puppet state of JL but he choose to go to spite us! He laughed while Farmaajo and our sovereignity was insulted! I have MJ blood flowing in me from multiple generations. But I consider them our number #1 enemy. More than Hawiye or Isaaq. Sorry that's how I feel. I don't care for Daroodnimo. I only care about Sadeism.

You are a wise man unlike the emotional Voltage. These people have shown nothing but hatred towards Beesha Barakaysan, it just goes to show how mature in your thinking you are Saddam.

Dont ever fall into "Darodism" trap for it is a lie whispered by the venomous cobras who slither around Garowe

[Voltage]

You are a wise man unlike the emotional Voltage. These people have shown nothing but hatred towards Beesha Barakaysan, it just goes to show how mature in your thinking you are Saddam.

Dont ever fall into "Darodism" trap for it is a lie whispered by the venomous cobras who slither around Garowe

The thing is Grandpa who is really emotional between you and I.

Whereas you let pointless children make you bitter and emotional (from Somalispot as I have been able to glean), I am actually very logical towards them.

Majeerteen are the LAST people I would call on if I was sitting on the fork of a road and needed help. They are as much political enemies of mine as Hawiye, maybe even more since Hawiye and I have to be brought to together for common interest as unrelated tribes while Majerteen have a million ways of getting at us.

But the thing is I am not at the fork of a road. Marehan has never asked them for help. Marehan does not plan to ask them for help.

Your dabeecad bugs me personally because it's like a little magan who was tossed out.

Have you ever been magan to Majeerteen?

Marehan has never, no?

Alright them stop being LITERALLY emotional and move on.

I have no problems with highlighting their positive points because I am not insecure about them. Sure they are niman Darood ah, but they are not our political friends and Marehan would rather work with Hawiye since I know we trust Majerten even less. I am not confused about our relationship, there is no love lost.

Because of that, I am able to be honest and point out their strengths.

You can't because you're insecure which is a very un-Marehan trait.

GAAL DIL GARTIISANA SII might as well have been formed for Marehan.

Majeerteen dalkoodi way dhisteeen. Hate it or love. It's Marehan and Habar Gidit who haven't. As someone who likes to find redeeming qualities about people, that's a redeeming quality about Majeerteen I will always praise and use as inspiration to Marehan.

[sahal80]

SadeSoulja PL had fomented conflict in other parts of the country. The birds are coming home to roost.


Deni did the right thing and is in line with the past practice of former PL presidents. Abdullahi Yusuf had to slaughter hundreds of dissents to build PL. Faroole had to crush renegades in North Galkacyo who threatened his regime.

Deni can not be a softie like Xaaf who didn’t move swiftly to crush his PM and Speaker of Parliament when they plotted with N&N. He didn’t destroy the Shia who held Dhusamareb. In the end he was ousted for being soft and weak

You are a liar. I have no cause nor reason to defend Majeerteen against you (Lord knows they wouldn't), but one of the problems with Habar Gidir is iyagana way is xasdaan dadka kalena way xasdaan.

Sxb Puntland is a nation. They have had 20 years of peace and development and they turned their villages into metropolises. Don't hate.

Abdullahi Yusuf was ready to wage battle against Jaamac Cali Jaamac, but Majeerteen are not like your clan or my clan. They know how to think and strategize and compromise when needs be to win the war.

By that I mean those guys might have been ready to fifht but what did MAJEERTEEN do? What did Jaamac Cali Jaamac's CUSMAAN MAXMUUD do?

Instead of being emotional and fickle, they made a wise decision to support Cabdullahi Yuusuf against their own boy Jaamac Cali Jaamac.

And when Cabdullahi Yusuf go to Boosaaso, Cusmaan Maxmuud told Jaamac to go because they were not going to destroy their homes. They put him on a boat and that was that.

Today Cusmaan Maxmuud sit in Garowe as Puntland president while from a UN estimate, Cusmaan Maxmuud territory between Boosaaso and Qardho has taken in per capita more aid/donor funding than any other part of Somalia.

Waa niman rag ah.

Compare that to your small mindedness. At least Maxamuud Saleebaan already felt their destiny was together. Galmudug is not even a natural state like Puntland.

Ku lahaa Xaaf (read Sacad) attack Mareexaan/Murusade (VP and Speaket of Galmudug) and then attack the Cayr (Ahlu Sunnah).

Nevermind the sheer chutzpah of your statement, do you even recognize unlike Majerteen/Maxamuud Saleebaan, Galmudugians don't even recognize each other as a state or with one destiny. As a result the natural, logical, successful MAJEERTEEN strategy would be more compromise and ingenious local problem solving skills.

first time i agree with Voltage on this one. mj have the same isaaq mentality when it comes to their interests. cigaal defeated abdirahman tour but his war was not on habar younis or garhajis he made it look like a personal war between the two, dawlad vs jabhad. they had back them SNM mooryaan called day day(searching) so most people were pro dawlad and then he brought their elders into the guurti, their politicians like cirro ex interior into udub he was habar yunis. their parties are a mix of the habroo. Abdullahi yusuf refused to step down after he lost for jaamac but he was seen like a liberator and military leader and a founder. he established PL after he left cairo conference when Egypt suggested to give the president to ali mahdi and the pm to hussein aideed. originally his conference was about mj but then garaads of sool and sanaag joined them asking to make a state for all harti as a replacement for SL they were the garaads who partaked in shirkii burco.

osman mahamuuds saw to wait more for their time instead of clashing with sucha leader who is also backed by ethiopia and he was inherited by Adde muse.

caydiid defeated ali mahdi in his first week but Abgaals supported Ali mahdi after they got robbed and saw the war is not sboit ali mahdi(the case of uuur and jaamac)

forget about the current HG situation how can Xaaf clash with ceyr based admin and saleebaan based admin your fighting ceyr and saleebaan. they need first to have a single admin like mj and Isaaq.

[Voltage]

Sahal,

I know Abdiwahab wasn't thinking clearly and this was a blonde/airhead moment so I don't want to keep pushing it, but like you said forget Mareexaan and Murusade, when he said Xaaf should have attacked Ahlu Sunnah...what force does Xaaf have if it's HG vs. HG.

Also, where can Xaaf as a Sacad attack Ahlu Sunnah when Cayr are militarily the most powerful within HG? Wallahi as my Cabsiiye friend once said, "waligood anagay nagu tiirsanaayeen...wallahi reer Ayaanle only can take on Sacad."

As for why I say Sacad instead of Xaaf, Xaaf even thinking of attacking any of those entities named by AW (assuming soldiers fell down the sky for Xaaf) would immediately turn into a clan war and we have all seen the outcome of clan war in central Somalia.

As for AW wishing for more Sacas blood...sxb on one side you have Cumar Maxmuud, another you have Wagardhac,the other you have Saleebaan and the last you have Qubeys. No clan has suffered more in war in central Somalia the last 10 years than Sacad. Including Cayr and Murusade as tribal enemies is the last thing you need.

[Murax]

. They are as much political enemies of mine as Hawiye,

Voltage kinda having a hard time understanding that part about Hawiye being a political enemy at all. Speaking from a tribal perspective Marexaan iyo Hawiye wax iskuma haystaan and this is coming from a Gedood who were always kinda used to be into that Darood Hawiye BS. Tbh Hawiye, Marexaan have zero issues, Somalinimo, Diin baa naga dhaxeeyso but truth be told I can’t think of anything colaad ah naga dhaxeeyso. From stories I hear Marexaan went back to Xamar in such large numbers they are jokingly referred to as ‘Hiraab Marexaan’


Politically MJ were always the enemy to MR. 1969-1987 all Somalis had no issues with MSB but the very first to rebel were SSDF with the thinking how the hell can MR rule and not us. Fast forward you have Gaas, Faroole, Deni who still keep with that line of thinking. All that being said do I respect what they did? Absolutely. I do thin a couple factors helped like Darood holding the line at Gaalkacyo stopping USC advance so Puntland were spared the civil war. Also the fact that Puntland is 100% Darood, and mostly Harti. Not as complicated as the south. But again I absolutely respect what they did.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

You give them too much power bro as if Kenya takes orders from Garowe. The truth is Kenya is heavily dependent on tourism and messing with that is an existential threat to them. The reason we quickly forget the constant Shabaab attacks, kidnappings and bombings from Lamu and Malindi to Mombasa is because Kenya's incursion has largely succeeded in creating the buffer they originally desired.

Ahmed Madoobe just happened to be lucky and hitched along for the ride.

In fact I actually think it is because of the level of success that convinced Kenya it needed a puppet state between Somalia and herself.

I agree. But at what expense? The bombing and marginalization of our clan? To be divided and have cousins not traveling to their villages due to the political divisions of Puntland by supporting their proxy Madobe? To be at the mercy of KDF strikes on our ppl, land, livestocks? To be denied our rightful place in our state? Who keeps supporting Madobe to spite us? Farmaajo and his wasiirs who are PL natives begged Deni to not go to the puppet state of JL but he choose to go to spite us! He laughed while Farmaajo and our sovereignity was insulted! I have MJ blood flowing in me from multiple generations. But I consider them our number #1 enemy. More than Hawiye or Isaaq. Sorry that's how I feel. I don't care for Daroodnimo. I only care about Sadeism.

You are a wise man unlike the emotional Voltage. These people have shown nothing but hatred towards Beesha Barakaysan, it just goes to show how mature in your thinking you are Saddam.

Dont ever fall into "Darodism" trap for it is a lie whispered by the venomous cobras who slither around Garowe

Daroodism when around shisheye
Somalis are darood and others