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i bet Voltage didnt know this guy when i revealed the secret behind his appointments in 2015. excuse my bad english.


"as for jamal, the new ambassador to kenya, the main point behind his assigment was that he used to work in the US embassy in nairobi

was claiming to be a sort of CIA agent that could better the relations with the US govt, some how they believed in him and he played a role in "selling" the current PM"

it wasnt about ccc it was about post-yuulka relatiinship with the US based in his claims that he can fix it.



https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=367758

yeah this is tabloid.

"before joining the Government, he served as a Senior Political Advisor to the United States Special Representative for Somalia (SRS) on political affairs and related democracy, governance, and human rights issues"

http://www.asia-pacific.unsouthsouth.or ... -m-hassan/

i call Jamal hassan and Cawad the Sahalist ministers yet both had earlier Dam jadeed relations. its funny how every pro damdeed Darod or mx minister or mp are now the most important. example mp abdishakur gaal eri fought both Saacid and yuulka bc he was pro damjadeed like carabeey and alankeey. Jamal was under cover CIA agent working in the US embassy in Nairobi there he met Farah abdulqadir wich was not received by ambassadorka at that time but from a low staff. Jamaal claimed that he has huge american relations and it was after they removed yuulka and their relationship with america has deteriorated not bc of yuulka it has to do with the timing. jamal claimed he can repair the relationship with america so they appointed for the ambassador to kenya he really didnt change shit but he has vew relations like the stuff in embassy who could influence on any new ambassador. similary, Fahad yasin used him for america thinking the same way so iys bigger than Farmaajo really. for example one time cawad was with Farmaajo at the airport heading Qatar. Jamal was with fahad in Nairobi and they flew from there to qatar so they told cawad to stay and only Farmaajo gone to qatar with few staff. cawad got very angery and started dringking too much. Jamale is the strongest Darod minister thanks to his relation with fahad first before Farmaajo.

he met the americans over the removing of jawaari may be this one worked

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Mohamed_Hassan

What's up with this tabloid shit? All innuendos and rumors. Waa yaab wallahi

I literally gave up on reading any explanation from Sahal when after I asked wat EVIDENCE he has that the PM's office and Murusade clan killed Inj Yariisoow he responded with an 80 year old Somali woman's conjecture.

I was like "ok that's fine that hebel clan is scared of this or that, but what EVIDENCE existe?"

He just looked at me dumbfounded and then that's when I realized how things function in a wartorn society without evidence based /factual reasoning.

It's ALL about innuendos.

Except in this case, Canucks has stormed the building to teach Sahal what the meaning of EVIDENCE is

He's a Reer baadiye :

Voltage

Leaving HAG aside this man and his new wife tried to conduct an illicit deal outside the proper framework. This caused a major conflict in the Presidents office like Sahal said pitting your former heroine and Former Chief of Staff Dr Amina Said Ali and Jamal. Jamal swore to remove her because she questioned the entire deal due to how it was concocted.


If you praise Jamal then let’s be frank Farmaajo and his government are just a Sahalist outfit. He has finally succumbed to the Sahalist movement which I had always been skeptical of but if he couldn’t keep Dr Amina Said Ali who is a genuine stand up person to please a crook like Jamal solely to please the Daroodismo agenda then Farmaajo is not be Farmaajo of yesteryear but clever clannish leader.

Sahal

Jamal is suppose to be more effective than Dr Beyle according to Voltage to a point where Jamal supposedly does Beyles work.

I apologize adeer for questioning the HAG grievances. We must work hard to send this Saleban Dafle consulting tribalist packing in 2021.

Farmaajo fired amina by a request from this Sahalist. my biggest reason against Farmaajo is this guy he divides the wealth based on 4.5 every thing out of xamar goes to garowe and berbera. Voltage calls me hambo hiraab call it hambo Xamar bc we were getting more than HG in Galmudug bc we were pro govt not autonomy that is why i need a HAG govt .

this is €200 million baladweyne needs it the most yet he divided between Xamar and garowe. airporka baladweyne mashruuc talyaaniga asaa hor istaagsan wuxuu leeyahay gobolokalaan la sugaynaa 4.5 wtf gobolo he is talking about?

HAG hadaan nahay kuwa aan soo dhawaysano aan iska ilaalino wallahi iyo billahi

Abdiwahab,

I will address you in good faith since you have been rational opposition.

1. Everything that has been attributed to Jamal is "ALLEGEDLY." I am sure you understand that just because I say something about you doesn't mean thatit's true

2. No evidence has been presented EXCEPT BY CANUCK who brought Villa Somalia clarifying the issue and exonerating Jamal from the accusations.

3. Jamal is the MOST HIGH PROFILE minister in the gov. He is also the guy who negotiates treaties/agreements and ALWAYS signs for the Somali gov. You think this gov would jeopardize it's standing to donors by having a blatantly corrupt guy that could easily be used to death by the opposition?

4. I have never heard of these accusations which must mean it was more "Waagacusub" than "HiiraanOnline" if you get my drift.

5. I have noticed Jamal seems to inspire a lot of resentment in a particular community judging from this own topic. It surprises me.

Sahal,

My use of "hambo" was a description for waxaad ADIGU ka dhigtay tolkaa. It literally has nothing to do with what I think of you.

CIA this, heblaayo that. Again Sahal, please look up the meaning of "innuendo."

no one can convince voltage since he is adamant on his tribal siyad barre murursade wasiir narrative it will spoil his thread!

if jamal works for Farmaajo how come all projects he signed were allocated for xamar and shabeelooyinka? this bc qatar funds certain regions and secondly kheyre runs the govt.. except the EU funds even Goodax gets EU funds waliba waa ku ciriiriayay asaga meesha i can show you alot of links he attends with him non education projects. goodax war on PL was all about funds he signed in nairobi what PL wanted to get it

jamal targeted also SLs special arrangement wich shows his qabiilist nature yet he calls him wadani. for voltage wadani is someone like who works for his farmasjo and siyaad barre man why you have to inject wadani in every trubal motivated thing? i font use wadaninimo i clearly say i want HAG govt that looks after our regions.

waxaa la yaabanahay the coincidence between kheyres hiigsi iyo this topic. voltage call jamaal like a shadow minister! carabtu waxeey dhahdaaاول الغيث قطرة roobka dhibic baa ugu horeysa!

voltage unconsciously or indirectly tries to belittle kheyre markuu waagu ugu baryay meesha! we r waiting more frlm him!

like i said jamal is fahad man had he been pro Farmaajo kheyre could have fired him long time ago like he did with many pro farmaajo guys including mxs

simply jamaal is wasiirka planning he added only one thing when it comes out of xamar wich is distribution 4.5

my point on hodan was not about her title rather not having authority to make corrupt deals with chinese organization. how come jamal, hodan and the fishery minister who all belong to same clan(i think they r all harti warsangali and dhulbahsnte) making shadowy deals? what wadani is about this? worst corruption ever!

she received facilitation payment wich is corruption.

Voltage

When was I a member of the opposition? I have repeatedly supported the Farmaajo administration on these forums. Unlike you I didn’t support it out of a sense of tribal solidarity.

I have given you enough information which can be verified if you reach out to those who are in the know and are not blinded by absolute tribal solidarity to Farmajo.

You seem to forget your posts in which you expressed admiration for Dr Amina Said Ali. What happened?

Sahal

If you ever become President or Minister in the future, always keep a few advisors who will tell you what you don’t want to hear. If you keep blind loyalists you won’t ever understand the reality on the ground and any dangers you may face.

During the last days of the Barre regime, his advisors convinced the old man that the SNA was strong and able to defend the capital from the USC. He didn’t know that his same advisors had started to pack up and flee with their families. Mooge is in the same situation. All of his advisors who weren’t afraid to tell him the truth have been removed.

Voltage

When was I a member of the opposition? I have repeatedly supported the Farmaajo administration on these forums. Unlike you I didn’t support it out of a sense of tribal solidarity.

I have given you enough information which can be verified if you reach out to those who are in the know and are not blinded by absolute tribal solidarity to Farmajo.

You seem to forget your posts in which you expressed admiration for Dr Amina Said Ali. What happened?

Sahal

If you ever become President or Minister in the future, always keep a few advisors who will tell you what you don’t want to hear. If you keep blind loyalists you won’t ever understand the reality on the ground and any dangers you may face.

During the last days of the Barre regime, his advisors convinced the old man that the SNA was strong and able to defend the capital from the USC. He didn’t know that his same advisors had started to pack up and flee with their families. Mooge is in the same situation. All of his advisors who weren’t afraid to tell him the truth have been removed.

AW, let us take their version that she was doing this on behalf of corrupt Farmaajo who knows whats between him and Jamal and this fat lady and all her qaraabo in china and the fishery ministry and finally Jamal marrying her after she arrives xamar "to promote the country" Wow!

amina saeed was wrong she was asmra group and and abdi qasim she thought fahad yasin is the same poor guy in asmara interviewing them and sh sharif for aljaseera. she thought she lives in walaalaha era and did the best to repair HG relationship with Farmaajo. suddenly she got fired bc of this fat woman who married strong minister.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... china/amp/


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/xamartod ... e-xog/amp/

Abdiwahab,

I will address you in good faith since you have been rational opposition.

1. Everything that has been attributed to Jamal is "ALLEGEDLY." I am sure you understand that just because I say something about you doesn't mean thatit's true

2. No evidence has been presented EXCEPT BY CANUCK who brought Villa Somalia clarifying the issue and exonerating Jamal from the accusations.

3. Jamal is the MOST HIGH PROFILE minister in the gov. He is also the guy who negotiates treaties/agreements and ALWAYS signs for the Somali gov. You think this gov would jeopardize it's standing to donors by having a blatantly corrupt guy that could easily be used to death by the opposition?

4. I have never heard of these accusations which must mean it was more "Waagacusub" than "HiiraanOnline" if you get my drift.

5. I have noticed Jamal seems to inspire a lot of resentment in a particular community judging from this own topic. It surprises me.

Sahal,

My use of "hambo" was a description for waxaad ADIGU ka dhigtay tolkaa. It literally has nothing to do with what I think of you.

CIA this, heblaayo that. Again Sahal, please look up the meaning of "innuendo."

The issue with sahel80 & his friends is that they can not accept people like ambassador Jamal & Doctor hodan Osman (dhulbhante & warsangali) who rised to power positions without help of 4.5 which favorited (dir, D& M, MJ, issaq, hawiye, Ogaden). Second, they don’t have their states or formed arm forces, or took part in ousting siad barre regime.
Unlike to the rest of politicians Jamal & Doctor hodan came to political world through their education not through their clans or tribes or dirty money which makes people like Sahel80 got scared & attacks them since his group & friends are losing power to new generation that didn’t take part in civil war or terrorism or 4.5. He is losing his influence upon the Somali youth that believes in change.

Abdiwahab,

I will address you in good faith since you have been rational opposition.

1. Everything that has been attributed to Jamal is "ALLEGEDLY." I am sure you understand that just because I say something about you doesn't mean thatit's true

2. No evidence has been presented EXCEPT BY CANUCK who brought Villa Somalia clarifying the issue and exonerating Jamal from the accusations.

3. Jamal is the MOST HIGH PROFILE minister in the gov. He is also the guy who negotiates treaties/agreements and ALWAYS signs for the Somali gov. You think this gov would jeopardize it's standing to donors by having a blatantly corrupt guy that could easily be used to death by the opposition?

4. I have never heard of these accusations which must mean it was more "Waagacusub" than "HiiraanOnline" if you get my drift.

5. I have noticed Jamal seems to inspire a lot of resentment in a particular community judging from this own topic. It surprises me.

Sahal,

My use of "hambo" was a description for waxaad ADIGU ka dhigtay tolkaa. It literally has nothing to do with what I think of you.

CIA this, heblaayo that. Again Sahal, please look up the meaning of "innuendo."

The issue with sahel80 & his friends is that they can not accept people like ambassador Jamal & Doctor hodan Osman (dhulbhante & warsangali) who rised to power positions without help of 4.5 which favorited (dir, D& M, MJ, issaq, hawiye, Ogaden). Second, they don’t have their states or formed arm forces, or took part in ousting siad barre regime.
Unlike to the rest of politicians Jamal & Doctor hodan came to political world through their education not through their clans or tribes or dirty money which makes people like Sahel80 got scared & attacks them since his group & friends are losing power to new generation that didn’t take part in civil war or terrorism or 4.5. He is losing his influence upon the Somali youth that believes in change.
www.somaliwave.com

Minister Jamal

Puntland leadership is a team united with the voice of their people, some one who sat Mogadishu and undermined Puntland for four years and not respected the leadership should not expect any favours turning up on the eve of election and expecting his seat would be handed in a silver plate