Somali History as told by a Eritrean Saho elder

[dalalos101]

Xildiid the etymology of alot of words lead back to "gar" meaning beard, its a fundamental word in the somali language, nothing leads back to "gadh" even in the qaldaan accent, so I can only come to the conclusion that it is a corrupted version of "gar". Also its not unusual if you study the field of etymology or linguistics in general that you come across alot of words with multiple meanings, this is what makes a language rich and efficient, many ancient languages are the same, its bastardized languages that adopt new words into their vocab, nothing wrong with that I guess its a matter of opinion which is more functional, however you not making a case for purity by saying we use the same word with multiple meanings that is just going directly against your argument lmao I don't think you realise it bro.

[MidriGeez]

Somali is the state language of Somalia you silly boy there is no Beja, Afar, Saho states, and those languages are not the official languages of any state.

So what? wu native to the shanghai region of china is a language spoken there, it is not the national language which is Mandarin. I am sure if you ask them would you rather be a somali with a state and national language they would decline and stick with what they have.

you all over the place, free yourself from habesha domination before you start picking fight with your big bros, that is if you even are Saho, I have never met a Saho who disrespect Somalis.

Ahh ... I am not a saho Bro. when and where did i say i was a saho???? so who is all over the place now?

[Voltage]

Xildiid the etymology of alot of words lead back to "gar" meaning beard, its a fundamental word in the somali language, nothing leads back to "gadh" even in the qaldaan accent, so I can only come to the conclusion that it is a corrupted version of "gar". Also its not unusual if you study the field of etymology or linguistics in general that you come across alot of words with multiple meanings, this is what makes a language rich and efficient, many ancient languages are the same, its bastardized languages that adopt new words into their vocab, nothing wrong with that I guess its a matter of opinion which is more functional, however you not making a case for purity by saying we use the same word with multiple meanings that is just going directly against your argument lmao I don't think you realise it bro.

It's ridiculous and so elementary that they don't understand what homonyms are. They are even more prevalent in a ton language like Somali

Just look at

Ca-rab = an Arab
Car-ab = tongue

Ca-ro = anger
Car-o = soil

Ba-rre = teacher/guid
Bar-re = one with a mole

Na-cas = stupid boy
Nac-as = stupid girl

These guys with the almost childish caricuture to explain why THEY deviated make no sense.

ACTUALLY have you ever stppped and listened to people speak the Oromo language?

Wallahi if you listened for couple seconds you would realize who influenced the Waqooyi over utilization of "dh"

[Xildiiid]

Xildiid the etymology of alot of words lead back to "gar" meaning beard, its a fundamental word in the somali language, nothing leads back to "gadh" even in the qaldaan accent, so I can only come to the conclusion that it is a corrupted version of "gar". Also its not unusual if you study the field of etymology or linguistics in general that you come across alot of words with multiple meanings, this is what makes a language rich and efficient, many ancient languages are the same, its bastardized languages that adopt new words into their vocab, nothing wrong with that I guess its a matter of opinion which is more functional, however you not making a case for purity by saying we use the same word with multiple meanings that is just going directly against your argument lmao I don't think you realise it bro.

The only words that lead to the term “gar” are judicial words for instance “garnaqsi” (gar-naqsi).

That’s it.

[Xildiiid]

Xildiid the etymology of alot of words lead back to "gar" meaning beard, its a fundamental word in the somali language, nothing leads back to "gadh" even in the qaldaan accent, so I can only come to the conclusion that it is a corrupted version of "gar". Also its not unusual if you study the field of etymology or linguistics in general that you come across alot of words with multiple meanings, this is what makes a language rich and efficient, many ancient languages are the same, its bastardized languages that adopt new words into their vocab, nothing wrong with that I guess its a matter of opinion which is more functional, however you not making a case for purity by saying we use the same word with multiple meanings that is just going directly against your argument lmao I don't think you realise it bro.

It's ridiculous and so elementary that they don't understand what homonyms are. They are even more prevalent in a ton language like Somali

Just look at

Ca-rab = an Arab
Car-ab = tongue

Ca-ro = anger
Car-o = soil

Ba-rre = teacher/guid
Bar-re = one with a mole

Na-cas = stupid boy
Nac-as = stupid girl

These guys with the almost childish caricuture to explain why THEY deviated make no sense.

ACTUALLY have you ever stppped and listened to people speak the Oromo language?

Wallahi if you listened for couple seconds you would realize who influenced the Waqooyi over utilization of "dh"

Carab (tongue) is not of proto Cushitic origin nor Proto Afro-Asiatic. The word itself is a deviation. The proto Afro-Asiatic root word for tongue is “lis”.

It’s not a matter of homonyms but linguistic errors prevalent in certain dialects.

Dh is highly prevalent in Afar and Saho so what’s your point? I could make the argument that it’s a proto Cushitic feature given that Afar-Saho are closest to proto Cushitic after Beja.

[Voltage]

Xildiid the etymology of alot of words lead back to "gar" meaning beard, its a fundamental word in the somali language, nothing leads back to "gadh" even in the qaldaan accent, so I can only come to the conclusion that it is a corrupted version of "gar". Also its not unusual if you study the field of etymology or linguistics in general that you come across alot of words with multiple meanings, this is what makes a language rich and efficient, many ancient languages are the same, its bastardized languages that adopt new words into their vocab, nothing wrong with that I guess its a matter of opinion which is more functional, however you not making a case for purity by saying we use the same word with multiple meanings that is just going directly against your argument lmao I don't think you realise it bro.

It's ridiculous and so elementary that they don't understand what homonyms are. They are even more prevalent in a ton language like Somali

Just look at

Ca-rab = an Arab
Car-ab = tongue

Ca-ro = anger
Car-o = soil

Ba-rre = teacher/guid
Bar-re = one with a mole

Na-cas = stupid boy
Nac-as = stupid girl

These guys with the almost childish caricuture to explain why THEY deviated make no sense.

ACTUALLY have you ever stppped and listened to people speak the Oromo language?

Wallahi if you listened for couple seconds you would realize who influenced the Waqooyi over utilization of "dh"

Carab (tongue) is not of proto Cushitic origin nor Proto Afro-Asiatic. The word itself is a deviation. The proto Afro-Asiatic root word for tongue is “lis”.

It’s not a matter of homonyms but linguistic errors prevalent in certain dialects.

Dh is highly prevalent in Afar and Saho so what’s your point? I could make the argument that it’s a proto Cushitic feature given that Afar-Saho are closest to proto Cushitic after Beja.

1. You know nothing about linguistics.

I will let Lamberti address your ignorance.




2. If the heavy "dh" was a natural evolution. Af Maay would have it since it is considered the dialect with the least foreign adoption/influence.

Transplanting "r" for "dh" is clearly an Oromo influence in Waqooyi and it seems very unnatural.

For example; ROTI and GAARI are both very clear adoptions in Somali (from Hindi).

All Somali dialects except the triangle call it how it was borrowed; ROOTI and GAARI.

How the hell did it become ROODHI and GAADHI in the triangle.

That alone should answer the question you guys always pose. If you guys are so blatantly corrupting words that are not even Somali to suit your regional isolation within the larger Somali language continuum, why would you not have corrupted gar and gogol xaar.

[HilaacHills]

For example; ROTI and GAARI are both very clear adoptions in Somali (from Hindi).

All Somali dialects except the triangle call it how it was borrowed; ROOTI and GAARI.

How the hell did it become ROODHI and GAADHI in the triangle.

That alone should answer the question you guys always pose. If you guys are so blatantly corrupting words that are not even Somali to suit your regional isolation within the larger Somali language continuum, why would you not have corrupted gar and gogol xaar.

Indians call it Roodhi and Gaadhi, though? Not Rooti and Gaari.
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/h ... ce87f.html
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/h ... 76f56.html

Same with Badhasaab(Koonfur say Barasaab) which is another Indian loanword.

[Voltage]

For example; ROTI and GAARI are both very clear adoptions in Somali (from Hindi).

All Somali dialects except the triangle call it how it was borrowed; ROOTI and GAARI.

How the hell did it become ROODHI and GAADHI in the triangle.

That alone should answer the question you guys always pose. If you guys are so blatantly corrupting words that are not even Somali to suit your regional isolation within the larger Somali language continuum, why would you not have corrupted gar and gogol xaar.

Indians call it Roodhi and Gaadhi, though? Not Rooti and Gaari.
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/h ... ce87f.html
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/h ... 76f56.html

Same with Badhasaab(Koonfur say Barasaab) which is another Indian loanword.

Lol @ Indians call it Roodhi. You are relying on an indecipherable Siri like computer? Trust me, I have shared the Roti word multiple times with Indians.

Roti is pronounced almost like Rooh-tea. Ku kahaa ROODHI. Why don't the Arabs and Persians also borrow it as ROODHI.

Admittedly I have never asked them to pronounce Gaari/Gaadhi but a quick online look says the word is actually borrowed from CAR (so we borrowed a word that Hindustani itself borrowed??) and in Urdu it is gaari and Hindi it is Gaadee.

In any case, all irrelevant to the main topic. Clearly the fault is mine for the sidetrack.

[dalalos101]

Xildiid the etymology of alot of words lead back to "gar" meaning beard, its a fundamental word in the somali language, nothing leads back to "gadh" even in the qaldaan accent, so I can only come to the conclusion that it is a corrupted version of "gar". Also its not unusual if you study the field of etymology or linguistics in general that you come across alot of words with multiple meanings, this is what makes a language rich and efficient, many ancient languages are the same, its bastardized languages that adopt new words into their vocab, nothing wrong with that I guess its a matter of opinion which is more functional, however you not making a case for purity by saying we use the same word with multiple meanings that is just going directly against your argument lmao I don't think you realise it bro.

The only words that lead to the term “gar” are judicial words for instance “garnaqsi” (gar-naqsi).

That’s it.

Im far from an expert on the Somali language but even i know that is garbage, lmao bro why are you doing this to yourself, walahi if you put effort into your dna study which I kind of agree you would be far more undisputed, this is just lazy research mate, Voltage is going to keep embarrassing you, not that I am supporting voltage but he has won this hands down.